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Microstock Photography Forum - General => Symbiostock => Symbiostock - Technical Support => Topic started by: cathyslife on April 08, 2013, 19:45
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How do I turn this on?
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In the Symbiostock panel under the Author Options tab below the pricing. There is an open field to fill in (Append Text To Title). Enter - Stock Photo or - Royalty Free Image or whatever you want tagged onto your title
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Thank you Karen!
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Found it, added Stock Photo, and I see it adding that to the end of the title. I don't see it changing the slug. Should it? That search term should be in the URL, I believe. Do I have to change the slugs myself?
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I don't see it in the slug either so I'm guessing it does need to be manually added if it needs to be there. Maybe someone that knows more about SEO can chime in on this one.
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I don't see it in the slug either so I'm guessing it does need to be manually added if it needs to be there. Maybe someone that knows more about SEO can chime in on this one.
Changing the slug after its been established is bad because its as if you are creating a whole new page and deleting the old one in the eyes of the search engine, which leads to a 404. The main mission here is to make "stock photo" a prominent subject of the page as well as the whole site. If you add it to slug during page creation its fine, but if its not part of the slug its most likely a minimal difference.
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I don't see it in the slug either so I'm guessing it does need to be manually added if it needs to be there. Maybe someone that knows more about SEO can chime in on this one.
Changing the slug after its been established is bad because its as if you are creating a whole new page and deleting the old one in the eyes of the search engine, which leads to a 404. The main mission here is to make "stock photo" a prominent subject of the page as well as the whole site. If you add it to slug during page creation its fine, but if its not part of the slug its most likely a minimal difference.
Leo - are we talking about the same slug? I was referring to the image title which I thought we needed to change when we did the SEO optimization. My process has been to upload images to draft, change the title to be different than what is used on other sites and to update the slug to match. That's where I was wondering if we should manually add -stock photo if we're having that auto-appended to the image. But after publishing I have sometimes gone back and improved on the image title, changing both the title and slug. Are you saying that once published we shouldn't edit that title or slug?
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I don't see it in the slug either so I'm guessing it does need to be manually added if it needs to be there. Maybe someone that knows more about SEO can chime in on this one.
Changing the slug after its been established is bad because its as if you are creating a whole new page and deleting the old one in the eyes of the search engine, which leads to a 404. The main mission here is to make "stock photo" a prominent subject of the page as well as the whole site. If you add it to slug during page creation its fine, but if its not part of the slug its most likely a minimal difference.
That makes sense to me, and i notice that there isnt a slug box on photo pages anyway. I have (foolishly) tried to change the permalink, and that doesnt stick either. It knows better than i! But i thought those keywords should appear in the url for seo...i checked out shutterstock's urls of my images and they add it in. I am only asking questions, you know WAY more about it than i. But i noticed the other day that when i manually added them to the name of the image, before i even uploaded the image, wordpress took those words off. Why would that happen? For instance i named an image "horse-trotting-in-fog-stock-photo." When the image uploaded, it appeared as "horse-trotting-in-fog". I thought that was weird.
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Changing the slug after its been established is bad because its as if you are creating a whole new page and deleting the old one in the eyes of the search engine, which leads to a 404. The main mission here is to make "stock photo" a prominent subject of the page as well as the whole site. If you add it to slug during page creation its fine, but if its not part of the slug its most likely a minimal difference.
Hmmm, I installed SEO Ultimate from the start of Symbiostock and created custom Meta titles and descriptions this way.
Now it's part of the Symbiostock SEO (which is awesome) but now I'm afraid I have to re-do my image titles and get rid of my SEO Ultimate?
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Slug is the url element with the dashes. You can change that before publishing. Changing it after publishing is bad practice.
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Slug is the url element with the dashes. You can change that before publishing. Changing it after publishing is bad practice.
Of course it's best to get it right the first time but if we find that we have a typo or want to use a different title is it best to delete the entire page then re-upload again?
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No you can always change the slug. Example:
If you change the slug two minutes after publishing - nobody will notice.
If you change slug two days after publishing, your indexed page will be lost, but most likely found again.
If you change slug two months after publishing, your acquired search engines rankings will be forfeited unless you can redirect the page to new slug.
And so forth...
Its like changing your phone number.
And if you change your permalinks structure after you've become established, same scenario on each page. I think WP compensates for some of this stuff though, and there are plugins as well that might handle stuff like that.
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Just to clarify to avoid confusion:
The title is generated by a function the_title() in wordpress. When append the word "stock photo", that function is filtered to include the extra text.
the_title() is used in the Page Title, which is above your header where other meta information goes. Its also used in the visual (h1) title of your page, also on the image alt attribute, and the href attribute on the image. Much impact, still not spammy. So whatever word you append will have *huge* impact on the subject of your site, and in effect individual searches. Hope this helps.
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Just to clarify to avoid confusion:
The title is generated by a function the_title() in wordpress. When append the word "stock photo", that function is filtered to include the extra text.
the_title() is used in the Page Title, which is above your header where other meta information goes. Its also used in the visual (h1) title of your page, also on the image alt attribute, and the href attribute on the image. Much impact, still not spammy. So whatever word you append will have *huge* impact on the subject of your site, and in effect individual searches. Hope this helps.
I see it in the h1 tag above the image in the title. Can you tell me where I can look to see the image alt attributes and href attribute on the image?
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Slug is the url element with the dashes. You can change that before publishing. Changing it after publishing is bad practice.
Please tell me where I can see the slug line on an image page. I see the permalink at the top of the page, but other pages have the permalink at the top, then an additional space named slug towards the bottom. When you say slug are you talking permalink in the case of the image pages?
I just uploaded an image and named it crayon-and-ruler-border-stock-photo.jpg. When it uploaded, it removed the stock-photo at the end (the permalink). Can you please explain why?
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Don't dwell too much on the details, that explanation might have been a little more than needed. When your in the edit page you can see the slug under the title area. Generally its not an open field to edit, but you can click/edit it if you wish, and it will change for you. The slug ends up being the end-part of your permalink.
Example: http://www.hookstockimages.com/image/ (http://www.hookstockimages.com/image/)united-states-military/
Slug = united-states-military
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Can you answer the question about why it is renaming my files and removing the -stock-photo i am including in the file name before i even upload? I should be able to name my files what i want, no?
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Filename as in something-stock-photo.jpg?
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Filename as in something-stock-photo.jpg?
Yes. From my post above:
I just uploaded an image and named it crayon-and-ruler-border-stock-photo.jpg. When it uploaded, it removed the stock-photo at the end (the permalink). Can you please explain why?
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i just wanted to make sure what was happening before I tried to explain anything.
The file-name is changed to an image number. Its not used in the end product. The title however is taken from the IPTC data, if you happen to have it. Keep in mind though if you add "stock photo" into the title of your IPTC data (you know, through Adobe Bridge or something) then yes it will end up with that being part of the slug, but then if you set the "append-to-title" word to stock photo, you will end up with a "stock photo stock photo" ending to the files.
But its not crucially important that the slug contain "stock photo", because quite a few important elements already have that.
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i just wanted to make sure what was happening before I tried to explain anything.
The file-name is changed to an image number. Its not used in the end product. The title however is taken from the IPTC data, if you happen to have it. Keep in mind though if you add "stock photo" into the title of your IPTC data (you know, through Adobe Bridge or something) then yes it will end up with that being part of the slug, but then if you set the "append-to-title" word to stock photo, you will end up with a "stock photo stock photo" ending to the files.
But its not crucially important that the slug contain "stock photo", because quite a few important elements already have that.
I am using the append to title feature you built in and it is correctly adding Stock Photo to the titles. That part is fine. No, I am not adding the words stock photo anywhere else, not in the IPTC data either. I am only naming the file something-stock-photo.jpg. When I go to my site, and I click on a thumbnail image and it takes me to the image page, the URL in the field should be named what I named the file. The files ARE named what I named them, except for removing the stock-photo.
It might not be important that stock-photo is in the url, but I'm still not understanding why the name of my photo is being changed by wordpress. It doesn't make sense. I am not certain that it's critical, I just don't like the names of my files being changed is all. There has to be a reason it's doing that.
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I guess I'm kind of confused what the problem is. Can you give me a link to one of your pages?
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I guess I'm kind of confused what the problem is. Can you give me a link to one of your pages?
A link to one of my pages will show you nothing. I will try to explain it one more time.
1. On my computer, i open up a photo, work on it, then save it with the name "horses-trotting-stock-photo.jpg.
2. I go to the upload photos section and upload the photo. I process the photo to drafts. Then i go to the image to check seo, keywords and stuff. When i look at the permalink for the image, the url is now "http://www.cathyslifestockphotos.com/horses-trotting". Why wouldnt the url be "http://www.cathyslifestockphotos.com/horses-trotting-stock-photos"? That's what i named the image.
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I see that you sort of answered this in another thread. I say sort of because I already know that the append to title adds words in title but not permalink. You haven't explained why words are being taken away from the permalink (file name that I gave it). I'm going to keep harping on this until you answer me. ;D
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I see that you sort of answered this in another thread. I say sort of because I already know that the append to title adds words in title but not permalink. You haven't explained why words are being taken away from the permalink (file name that I gave it). I'm going to keep harping on this until you answer me. ;D
The filename that you gave it disappears as soon as you upload and process the file to be replaced by a number. The permalink is nothing to do with the filename, it uses the slug, which is a simplified version of the post title, read from the IPTC data initially. The display image which you can see in the media library has a filename made up from the image number and the slug, giving it a unique filename containing your important keywords. The original image is stored in the secure folder as $imagenumber.jpg
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Sorry been finishing up some custom jobs and sometimes forget what questions were asked.
I had meant to answer yesterday.
Um...
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1. On my computer, i open up a photo, work on it, then save it with the name "horses-trotting-stock-photo.jpg.
So in essence..
horses-trotting-stock-photo.jpg has no effect on any names at all. During the processing a preview is created using the title from IPTC data, and the main downloadable file name is replaced with an image number.
So like you say in #2 (unless I've missed something in my own coding) http://www.cathyslifestockphotos.com/horses-trotting (http://www.cathyslifestockphotos.com/horses-trotting) is named so because possibly your IPTC title has the name horses-trotting, and that is what is being retrieved during the processing. If IPTC data is empty, it would be called something generic like "royalty free stock image" or something. The filename (not iptc, but the filename...) is really irrelevant since it gets scrapped.
The IPTC data as you probably know is what you change when you alter your jpg image to contain keywords, description, and title.
But just to reiterate if you were save as draft and change the slug to horses-trotting-stock-photo, then that would work out fine.
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I see that you sort of answered this in another thread. I say sort of because I already know that the append to title adds words in title but not permalink. You haven't explained why words are being taken away from the permalink (file name that I gave it). I'm going to keep harping on this until you answer me. ;D
The filename that you gave it disappears as soon as you upload and process the file to be replaced by a number. The permalink is nothing to do with the filename, it uses the slug, which is a simplified version of the post title, read from the IPTC data initially. The display image which you can see in the media library has a filename made up from the image number and the slug, giving it a unique filename containing your important keywords. The original image is stored in the secure folder as $imagenumber.jpg
Yeah what he said.
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No problem Leo, you aren't even supposed to be here! :) Thank you both for the explanation. It makes sense now, but one more question:
But just to reiterate if you were save as draft and change the slug to horses-trotting-stock-photo, then that would work out fine.
I do save as draft. Can you tell me specifically where that is on the page? Do you mean the very first line on the page that is editable (what I would call the title?). The next thing that can be changed is the permalink but even if I change that to add -stock-photo.jpg it does not save it. It reverts back to what it was.
I see nothing else on the page that says slug or looks like a slug. :(
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The slug is the little slimy wormlike creature crawling around the edit area somewhere. Generally doesn't come out unless it rains. Do not pour salt on it.
Wait...let me get a screenshot...
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Here is our elusive and strange little creature called the "slug" who's natural habitat is just below the title area and just above the edit area. Its the last part of your permalink: http://www.symbiostock.com/free-files/2013-04-10_1356.swf (http://www.symbiostock.com/free-files/2013-04-10_1356.swf)
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Here is our elusive and strange little creature called the "slug" who's natural habitat is just below the title area and just above the edit area. Its the last part of your permalink: [url]http://www.symbiostock.com/free-files/2013-04-10_1356.swf[/url] ([url]http://www.symbiostock.com/free-files/2013-04-10_1356.swf[/url])
:D :D :D You are awesome. I believe I finally understand.
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Yeah, slugs can be hard to find when your looking for them.