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« on: July 13, 2013, 17:52 »
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So, OK, I've got a new SYS site developing w/Clean Theme and NextGen Gallery. I know how to upload a few images at a time to NGG via the website and get them into galleries/pages/slideshows on the site, but I really need to be able to FTP larger batches. Otherwise, I'll never get this done.

My FTP connection to the site is good, and the images appear to be uploading to my new site just as they do to SS, FT, DT, etc. Problem is, I can't find the images once I've uploaded them.

Or maybe I should say... I don't know where to put the images I upload. Do I set up a file specifically for them? If so, what and where?? I've tried but each time WP tells me such-and-such a file does not exist. This is not very intuitive.

Is anybody who's dealt with this willing to share a tip or two?

Thanks, and my apologies if this has already been answered somewhere. I sometimes feel rather lost in the Forum.


Ron

« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2013, 18:49 »
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If you are uploading images to SYS using FTP you need to upload them into this folder

/www/wp-content/themes/symbiostock/inc/classes/plupload/uploads

Then you find them in the WP Dashboard section under Royalty Free Images > Process Uploads.

« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2013, 20:38 »
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Ron, you are wonderful!! Thank you so very much.

Martha

« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2013, 21:13 »
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Well, Ron, I was ecstatic about that for a while until I realized just now that I still don't have a clue where to find (or create) that file (/www/wp-content/themes/symbiostock/inc/classes/plupload/uploads).

Can you (or anybody else) please tell me that? No rush... at your leisure, but I'll be grateful for a smidge more help with this.

BTW, by doing a Google search on that file I did find the previous thread about this in the Forum. But most of the info was so technical that it didn't help me at all.

Call me... Clueless in Santa Fe.  =:-0

« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2013, 00:38 »
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If you go to the ladybug section, Royalty Free images, in the left column of the admin panel, then click upload images, under the uploader it will show you the path to your ftp folder. You then put that path into whatever program you are using to ftp, like filezilla, fetch, whatever. For instance, i use dreamweaver to ftp stuff to my site. The root folder for my site at blue host is public_html. My path looks like this


/home3/cathysl1/public_html/wp-content/themes/symbiostock/inc/classes/plupload/uploads/


but in dreamweaver i dont put the home3/cathysl1 because the root folder for wp is public_html. Hope this helps.


Edit: so put /public_html/ in the blank in your ftp app for the directory. Once you connect to your server, you will be able to see the wp-content folder and follow the path to find the correct folder to put them in.

« Last Edit: July 14, 2013, 00:44 by cclapper »

« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2013, 01:42 »
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The path for version 2.5.6 is a little different if you are using that, but following Cathy's directions will show you where it is

I am a bit confused, are you trying to get your pictures onto the site for licencing or to use in the next gen gallery? I do not use the latter so cannot advise on that

« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2013, 07:45 »
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Thanks to you both, Cathy and Tinny, for enlightening me about this. I think I actually do "see the way forward" now. (And yes, I'm using 2.5.6.)

Tinny, your question is a good one. I am trying to upload images for licensing and I thought NextGen Gallery was the way to do that. If it's not, them I'm even more scrambled up on this than I thought.

Somewhere in the set-up instructions (or maybe elsewhere on the Forum? ... all the advice is starting to muddle in my mind), Leo says to get NextGen Gallery. That was the first time I'd heard of it, so being a diligent student, I got it. Assumed that was the way to incorporate images into the site. Maybe not??? Is it possible to do that strictly through the SYS software?

I haven't gotten far enough along to have an actual sales page on my site, and I've been assuming the SYS theme would give me that capability. But I thought I needed to get the images in some other way, and NGG was one way to do that.

This is especially frustrating since I currently run 3 other WP websites (based on 2 different themes) and had no problems setting them up. I assumed this would go up as smoothly as those others did. It must be the complication of adding large numbers of large images for commercial use that's making this more challenging.

It helps to know others have gone through this before me and worked it out nicely. Thanks, everybody, for your logistical help and moral support!

« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2013, 08:20 »
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Somewhere in the set-up instructions (or maybe elsewhere on the Forum? ... all the advice is starting to muddle in my mind), Leo says to get NextGen Gallery. That was the first time I'd heard of it, so being a diligent student, I got it. Assumed that was the way to incorporate images into the site. Maybe not??? Is it possible to do that strictly through the SYS software?

You don't have to use NextGen Gallery, no. I am not using it. I use the uploader on the left side of the page (I am not uploading massive quantities at once so I don't currently use FTP...maybe in the future tho) and the ImageMagick software does the processing. The images go into the SY theme image page automatically. There are some people using NextGen, but I don't know what the advantages are.

If you use ftp, you drop them into the folder discussed above, then go the wp admin area and process them just as you would if you had used the admin uploader. ftp just allows you to get large quantities there faster.

Yes, uploading large numbers of large images make the SY theme a little bit different than other WP sites. We have all been "learning" to set up our sites, and the project has grown so fast, that information is scattered about and for a new person setting up a site, it's frustrating. Amanda and a couple of others are trying to get everything organized into one place to make things a little more simple.

« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2013, 08:35 »
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Cathy, your personal approach is actually quite helpful. Maybe if I quit trying to figure out NextGen Gallery and stick with trying to figure out SYS, at least for now, things will go more smoothly. That old KISS principle has value, ya'know!

And yes... Amanda has given me some good help in private emails, plus her documentation is good. So let me take this opportunity to thank her publicly here.

I'm not complaining about anything related to SYS and the MSG Forums. I've learned a whole lot from cruising around these threads, and I'm excited about the potential for the SYS network. It's going to be a powerful player in this field in future years. I'm confident of that.

In the FWIW category: I'm an active member of another "indie cooperative" group, the Historical Fiction Authors Cooperative, or HFAC. (If you're curious, visit http://hfebooks.com/ -- where I'm the webmaster.) HFAC started several years ago as the publishing industry was in full-throttle change-over from the old business model toward self-publishing. The parallels between indie writers and indie photographers/artists are remarkable, and they're happening for exactly the same reasons. I could expound more on that, but this is not the proper place for it.

« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2013, 08:48 »
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I'm not complaining about anything related to SYS and the MSG Forums. I've learned a whole lot from cruising around these threads, and I'm excited about the potential for the SYS network. It's going to be a powerful player in this field in future years. I'm confident of that.


I didn't take it that way. I had set up a few other Wordpress sites before tackling this one, so some of it was familiar, but I went through many frustrating days for about 3 weeks before I finally got my site looking like it is. And it could still be improved. And I agree. The potential is mind-staggering. I hope it works out well.

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Maybe if I quit trying to figure out NextGen Gallery and stick with trying to figure out SYS, at least for now, things will go more smoothly.


That might be the way to go. Upload a few, look around, get your site the way you want it. By then you will have mucked around enough to where the ftp thing might be a little easier. I usually upload 10 at a time, but I think others do way more than that with no issues. It seems to be a little different for everyone.

I have heard of the similarities between writers and photographers before. I can imagine they are just as frustrated. Maybe they could alter the SY theme to work for writers, and the two could be networked together?

http://hfebooks.com/    Nice site!
« Last Edit: July 14, 2013, 08:51 by cclapper »

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2013, 09:09 »
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Yes, sorry if I didn't jump into this earlier - I was going to say the same about NextGen gallery. That plugin is purely intended to be able to create a page with some display of your best images, or a selection of your portfolio in a slide show, slider format etc. It is completely optional to the Symbio theme. From what I recall, you upload your images for use in NextGen (which may be ones you have sized differently for instance) into one of the normal image upload folders in WP and then point Nextgen at them.

I did try an image slider on my site in the early days, but it is one more piece to load, only appeared (in my case) on the home page and I decided that a fast simple site that moved people to buying an image was better than expecting people to sit there looking at some nice pictures in a slide show. I want people who have a specific need in mind, find it quickly and buy it. The chance of them seeing a nice shot on a slide show and think "I need to buy that" is miniscule for my portfolio.

Steve

Ron

« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2013, 09:19 »
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Yes, sorry if I didn't jump into this earlier - I was going to say the same about NextGen gallery. That plugin is purely intended to be able to create a page with some display of your best images, or a selection of your portfolio in a slide show, slider format etc. It is completely optional to the Symbio theme. From what I recall, you upload your images for use in NextGen (which may be ones you have sized differently for instance) into one of the normal image upload folders in WP and then point Nextgen at them.

I did try an image slider on my site in the early days, but it is one more piece to load, only appeared (in my case) on the home page and I decided that a fast simple site that moved people to buying an image was better than expecting people to sit there looking at some nice pictures in a slide show. I want people who have a specific need in mind, find it quickly and buy it. The chance of them seeing a nice shot on a slide show and think "I need to buy that" is miniscule for my portfolio.

Steve
I have been in limbo about that as well, an like you, decided to just make a stock selling site. Simple as possible but looking professional. But SYS is good enough to built a second site and just make it an art piece on its own for just showing eye candy.

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2013, 09:49 »
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SYS is good enough to built a second site and just make it an art piece on its own for just showing eye candy.

Good point - I currently have a Smugmug site that I put (when I get round to it) my fine art photos onto. Once the paid period expires, I think I may try to create a fine art site using Symbio and some of the gallery/slide show plugins that are around.

Steve

« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2013, 10:16 »
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You guys have convinced me! I'll work out my needs on SYS and put NGG on the backburner. I wasn't aiming at any kind of fancy slider anyway. Prefer the cleanest look possible. Maybe later, I'll do the "eye candy" add-on site, but not now.

Thanks, all. I'm looking forward to getting this done and becoming a full partner in the SYS network. So many great sites (and images!) there already. Good things lie ahead.

PS... Thanks, Cathy, for your thumbs-up on the HFAC site. It's been a fun group & site to build. :-)

« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2013, 13:36 »
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You guys have convinced me! I'll work out my needs on SYS and put NGG on the backburner. I wasn't aiming at any kind of fancy slider anyway. Prefer the cleanest look possible. Maybe later, I'll do the "eye candy" add-on site, but not now.

Thanks, all. I'm looking forward to getting this done and becoming a full partner in the SYS network. So many great sites (and images!) there already. Good things lie ahead.

PS... Thanks, Cathy, for your thumbs-up on the HFAC site. It's been a fun group & site to build. :-)

just when I thought I had a chance of catching up on my reading!  toured your website and just bought Rubies of the Viper.   have you been able to visit many of the places in your book?

on our first trip to Turkey we visited Daphne, near Antioch, and had a great lunch on a restaurant patio overlooking the groves where the temple once stood -- still forested ravines so easy to imagine.  there are other Roman remains in the area at Samandag which has the amazing tunnel of Vespasian and some early Christian burial sites

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back OT -- I've only used the sym upload rather than ftp and it's worked just fine, uploading 200-300Mb of images at a time

« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2013, 16:22 »
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just when I thought I had a chance of catching up on my reading!  toured your website and just bought Rubies of the Viper.   have you been able to visit many of the places in your book?

on our first trip to Turkey we visited Daphne, near Antioch, and had a great lunch on a restaurant patio overlooking the groves where the temple once stood -- still forested ravines so easy to imagine.  there are other Roman remains in the area at Samandag which has the amazing tunnel of Vespasian and some early Christian burial sites

Cascoly, that is so cool! This afternoon, I've seen several sales of Rubies of the Viper come through on Amazon. Nice to know one of them was you! This curious combination of writing historical fiction and photographing wildlife is the yin/yang passion of my life, so I really do hope you'll enjoy reading my novel. I'm working on the sequel this summer... but taking a timeout to build a SYS website. :-)

I've never been to Antioch or Dapnhe. Jealous of you for that! A small-but-important section of my novel is set there, so I think you'll get a kick out of that when you get to that part. It was the most challenging part to write (because the culture was so different), but also the part I personally like the best now.
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back OT -- I've only used the sym upload rather than ftp and it's worked just fine, uploading 200-300Mb of images at a time

That's good to know. I've been plugging away on my site all afternoon, having success with the SYS upload system. Still got a loooooong way to go, but there's progress to report.

« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2013, 16:52 »
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just when I thought I had a chance of catching up on my reading!  toured your website and just bought Rubies of the Viper.   have you been able to visit many of the places in your book?

on our first trip to Turkey we visited Daphne, near Antioch, and had a great lunch on a restaurant patio overlooking the groves where the temple once stood -- still forested ravines so easy to imagine.  there are other Roman remains in the area at Samandag which has the amazing tunnel of Vespasian and some early Christian burial sites

Cascoly, that is so cool! This afternoon, I've seen several sales of Rubies of the Viper come through on Amazon. Nice to know one of them was you! This curious combination of writing historical fiction and photographing wildlife is the yin/yang passion of my life, so I really do hope you'll enjoy reading my novel. I'm working on the sequel this summer... but taking a timeout to build a SYS website. :-)

I've never been to Antioch or Dapnhe. Jealous of you for that! A small-but-important section of my novel is set there, so I think you'll get a kick out of that when you get to that part. It was the most challenging part to write (because the culture was so different), but also the part I personally like the best now.
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are you familiar w Imperial Purple by Gillian Bradshaw? it's about the tyrian merchants in the early byzantine era

« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2013, 18:01 »
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are you familiar w Imperial Purple by Gillian Bradshaw? it's about the tyrian merchants in the early byzantine era

OT: Yep! Read it about 20 years ago and loved it. Need to get it out again for a re-read.

« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2013, 01:54 »
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I know I'm a day late and a dollar short :D but I finally got the uploading guide written here: http://www.symbioguides.com/getting-started/uploading-images/  if anyone else stumbles on this topic hopefully it is helpful. 



 

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