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« Reply #101 on: January 05, 2016, 09:18 »
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maybe a new tag line for symzio,  we set up your site quicker than you can say dmca

« Reply #102 on: January 05, 2016, 10:41 »
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maybe a new tag line for symzio,  we set up your site quicker than you can say dmca

In all fairness, the agencies don't a good job of weeding out copyright violators either, so symzio is bound to have the same problem. But then again, it pi$$e$ me off that the agencies make 80%+ of a sale and don't bother to even check those things out. Instead, just as symzio is apparently doing, they rely on free work provided by the contributors to weed out the copyright violators.

« Reply #103 on: January 05, 2016, 11:09 »
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What kind of best match system does your site have? I think the key to success in any type of library is the ability to filter out the rubbish and let relevant images be shown better as buyers don't have to wade through garbage.

I would be more inclined to join this venture if you told me that this is a customized search engine you coded. Not a generic one with minimal or no coding done.

If there is no response, i will probably guess the answer for myself.


« Reply #105 on: January 05, 2016, 14:08 »
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how many images are in the new symbiostock network?

« Reply #106 on: January 07, 2016, 11:59 »
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Kudos to you, Robin!  This is awesome - while I've read conflicting reviews of Symbiostock for the last couple of years and I understand people's concerns as I've experienced many of the same issues myself, my experience with Symbio thus far has been mainly positive. Many thanks for your efforts on the technical side of this in helping to get this platform closer to its huge potential.

I'm looking forward to the new features and benefits to be had once I get a chance to upgrade my site from Legacy, and will definitely be taking advantage of Symzio. Keep up the good work!!


« Reply #108 on: January 08, 2016, 07:23 »
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robin, how many images are in the new symbiostock network, please?

« Reply #109 on: January 08, 2016, 10:56 »
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robin, how many images are in the new symbiostock network, please?

Why do i have a feeling your response is going to be negative towards whatever answer comes your way? I think this is what he means by trolling...

« Reply #110 on: January 08, 2016, 11:04 »
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robin, how many images are in the new symbiostock network, please?

Why do i have a feeling your response is going to be negative towards whatever answer comes your way? I think this is what he means by trolling...

He has refused to answer legitimate questions and also has a pattern of denigrating artists within his own forums. He is being selective in what he posts in here and in my opinion is reaping what he sows. Be more open and honest and transparent. It's okay to not have a lot of images early on, but there is plenty Robin can do to build trust amongst potential contributors, like answering the questions Joann posed.

For me, I hope he is successful. I do not wish any ill will on his efforts. My passion is driven behind business process design based largely around the voice of the customer in my day job. I design business processes for a living and I can tell you that dodging the hard questions is simply bad business.

« Reply #111 on: January 08, 2016, 11:24 »
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Nobody has really refused anything from what I've read.
I can't and don't want to speak for Robin but I've already explained that Symzio is different than other agencies. The quality of content depends on what Symbiostock users feed to it. This is way more freedom than you can have with any other agency out there. But with freedom comes responsibility. And of course there need to be some rules to make sure this system doesn't get abused by individuals who don't work actively to keep up the standard (too many similars, keyword spam, low quality images etc).
In my personal opinion nobody who's honest and professional, and delivers content that's up or above the quality level of Symzio, needs to be afraid of getting punished. There's simply no reason for that.
But even if someone would get kicked from Symzio, this person would still have his/her own Symbiostock site.

« Reply #112 on: January 08, 2016, 15:27 »
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Nobody has really refused anything from what I've read.
I can't and don't want to speak for Robin but I've already explained that Symzio is different than other agencies. The quality of content depends on what Symbiostock users feed to it. This is way more freedom than you can have with any other agency out there. But with freedom comes responsibility. And of course there need to be some rules to make sure this system doesn't get abused by individuals who don't work actively to keep up the standard (too many similars, keyword spam, low quality images etc).
In my personal opinion nobody who's honest and professional, and delivers content that's up or above the quality level of Symzio, needs to be afraid of getting punished. There's simply no reason for that.
But even if someone would get kicked from Symzio, this person would still have his/her own Symbiostock site.

unfortunately that's NOT what robin has described here -- among other things he has declared 'zero tolerance' for violation of very fuzzy rules.  zero tolerance means ONE strike & you're out, and this is a decision robin can make arbitrarily.  he has refused to make the policies clear and objective, so anyone promoting symzio is subject to having their efforts destroyed based on what might be a whim or displeasure at an online comment

yes, you'd still have your sym site, but it's robin who's pushing symzio as the way indies will get noticed; people should at least know what the rules & penalties are before spending their time

as far as quality, there are obvious spam keywords, poor quality and other irrelevant material in the small selection already available; again, no response from robin to these documented problems

« Reply #113 on: January 08, 2016, 15:34 »
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Let's give him a break, he's doing what he can to improve Symbiostock and Symzio at the same time. On a daily basis.
As mentioned a couple of times, this is the start of a very new project. Most people understand that not everything can be absolutely perfect from the first minute.
And by the way, do you expect the other CEOs or owners of the agencies you're submitting to to answer any and all of your questions and conspiracy theories?

« Reply #114 on: January 08, 2016, 16:35 »
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Let's give him a break, he's doing what he can to improve Symbiostock and Symzio at the same time. On a daily basis.
As mentioned a couple of times, this is the start of a very new project. Most people understand that not everything can be absolutely perfect from the first minute.
And by the way, do you expect the other CEOs or owners of the agencies you're submitting to to answer any and all of your questions and conspiracy theories?

ROFL!!!   'very new project'????   some of these questions have been ignored since robin first appeared last SPRING!!!  hoist on his own petard -- it's robin who keeps announcing how large & wonderful everything is going 

re other agencies, the lack of control & response there is EXACTLY what led Leo to create symbiostock in the first place, and robin has constantly repeated how open & cooperative the project is supposed to be

« Reply #115 on: January 10, 2016, 08:40 »
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I'm staying put, I thought the new setup would have adds. This link thing could be done with the current system.



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« Reply #116 on: January 10, 2016, 18:10 »
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the fact that no one is here to share the number of images on the new symbiostock its safe to say its not bigger than the legacy and probably a lot smaller still

« Reply #117 on: January 11, 2016, 15:41 »
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Case in point: Ana, who, since the inception of this thread decided to go independent, successfully launched her Symbiostock site and joined Symzio:

http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16320.html

And now her beautiful illustrations are already being promoted by every other Symzio member:

http://picturebreeze.com/stock/photos/image/young-woman-riding-boat/



The system has been designed to use every member's site as an extension of every other member's media. This way, we, in essence, all share in the cumulative traffic and media that the entire system is connected to. As soon as you join Symzio, your stuff is immediately seen by any customer that is looking for it on any other member's site.

Multiply this effect by a thousand, and you see what I mean when I say "cumulatively, our organic footprint would effectively dwarf the agencies".


Is this Ana that you mention also known as Alexander Yakovlev, because some of her illustrations look exactly like his photographs.  (There's more than this)







illustrations removed but contributor still part of symzio, i guess they do allow copy cats with the agency, just not the infringing images

« Reply #118 on: January 11, 2016, 15:44 »
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Oh, there's more of Yakovlev's than just those 2 in that portfolio.  Considering the tone of the collection, I would err on the side that they ALL are violations, not just those 2.

Leo

  • http://www.clipartillustration.com

« Reply #119 on: February 21, 2016, 21:24 »
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how many images and contributors does the agency have now?


google search: site:symzio.com/contributor-

Reveals 64, but there are a few duplicate URLs.



images: 30576
contributors: 30

http://www.symzio.com/contributor-1.html 2128
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10003.html 14
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10001.html 106
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10004.html 4260
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10011.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10009.html 70
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10012.html 633
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10014.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10019.html 84
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10023.html 2668
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10026.html 287
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10028.html 150
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16313.html 2008
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16318.html 41
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16312.html 5154
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16320.html 52
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16328.html 12
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16324.html 930
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16336.html 27
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16333.html 3921
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16341.html 4718
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16352.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16353.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16348.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16356.html 20
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16362.html 1280
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16363.html 331
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16364.html 514
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16376.html 342
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16370.html 826
images: 30576
contributors: 30
« Last Edit: February 21, 2016, 21:33 by Leo »

Leo

  • http://www.clipartillustration.com

« Reply #120 on: February 21, 2016, 22:07 »
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I have to say, this is a remarkable setup. I haven't gotten a chance to look at it in depth until today.

I remember extensive talk in the early days of the highly radical attempts to network, there was lots of talk about bringing everyone together in one agency.

Here it is now!

Good job Robin. While we've had a few bumps in the road you really delivered.


« Reply #121 on: February 21, 2016, 23:57 »
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I find the images dropping down from the top of the screen disconcerting.

I can't see the total amount of images found for the search, it just says next page, so you're not sure how many next pages there are going to be.

Not wanting to offend. It's my first impressions.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2016, 01:04 by goober »

Leo

  • http://www.clipartillustration.com

« Reply #122 on: February 22, 2016, 00:30 »
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I think there is room for improvement like you say, but its the first of its type.

I'm admitting its impressive because:

  • They distribute a free wordpress plugin that lets you sell direct & connects to Symzio optionally.
  • They host sites for people who can't do it alone.
  • They aggregate all of it.
  • Decent commission.
Admittedly there are a few things that need cleaning, but for so many things done in less than a year, its good. A year from now it will be polished for sure. Any one of them is a full time job, and each element has its own complexity.

Just thought I'd throw a little praise out there. Dodging out now :D



« Last Edit: February 24, 2016, 04:23 by Leo »

« Reply #123 on: February 22, 2016, 02:10 »
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how many images and contributors does the agency have now?


google search: site:symzio.com/contributor-

Reveals 64, but there are a few duplicate URLs.



images: 30576
contributors: 30

http://www.symzio.com/contributor-1.html 2128
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10003.html 14
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10001.html 106
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10004.html 4260
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10011.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10009.html 70
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10012.html 633
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10014.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10019.html 84
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10023.html 2668
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10026.html 287
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-10028.html 150
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16313.html 2008
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16318.html 41
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16312.html 5154
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16320.html 52
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16328.html 12
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16324.html 930
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16336.html 27
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16333.html 3921
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16341.html 4718
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16352.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16353.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16348.html ?
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16356.html 20
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16362.html 1280
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16363.html 331
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16364.html 514
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16376.html 342
http://www.symzio.com/contributor-16370.html 826
images: 30576
contributors: 30


didnt expect it to be this low, thanks, no need to spend money and time on this

« Reply #124 on: February 22, 2016, 22:52 »
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What do you expect the Stock Inclusion Fee to be? That's fairly important knowledge to have before uploading hundreds of images.


 

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