Author Topic: thanks Veer awesome email news JUNE 8. congrats all . (Read 21482 times)

willie · « **on:** May 11, 2009, 14:54 »

just received an email from Veer to say that i have been selected to be transferred to Veer marketplace.
i like to extend blanket congratulations to Veer and all here who received the same awesome notice.
congratulations Veer ! congralutions to all here who got the email too.

Milinz · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2009, 15:35 »

Congrats!

I am hopping for similar... But, I am starting from scratch there... Didn't ever uploaded to SnapVillage due to their low position on the site list...

But, Now with CS, VS and soon iStock with no my vector images I think Veer Marketplace will be fine place to host them and sell...

It's nothing personal - Strictly business ;-)

willie · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2009, 15:43 »

Quote from: Milinz on May 11, 2009, 15:35

Congrats!

I am hopping for similar... But, I am starting from scratch there... Didn't ever uploaded to SnapVillage due to their low position on the site list...

But, Now with CS, VS and soon iStock with no my vector images I think Veer Marketplace will be fine place to host them and sell...

It's nothing personal - Strictly business ;-)

if you do have a SV account, i suggest you do your housecleaning there. i don't know what the cutoff point is, as i am done housecleaning. now i am just selecting and editing new images for Veer.

i did housecleaning as soon Veer mentioned the transfer in process. i got rid of all my old and dead stuff, kept only the downloads, and sent my best works there. and this morning i got their notice i was selected. so i guess my critical housecleaning paid off.

good luck Milinz.

sharpshot · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2009, 16:16 »

I did nothing and received the same email

I was excited about SV but wont celebrate until I see some sales this time. Hopefully they will do a better job.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2009, 16:28 »

Hi Perseus

I got the same email. I see you are a new member here. Welcome! Can you please give me a link to your portfolio on SV? I would like to take a look. It is always interesting to see the work of new people.
Best regards,
Ivan

KB · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2009, 16:38 »

Congratulations, Ivan, on getting selected.

Allen · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2009, 16:44 »

Well enjoy the party without me. They don't like my stuff enough I guess. For those of you that haven't seen the "loser" email here it is.

Dear SnapVillage Contributor,

As you may know, we are currently in the process of rolling SnapVillage into a new microstock offering, Veer® Marketplace. As part of this transition, we have been reviewing all submissions on SnapVillage.

Unfortunately, based on the images you currently have on SnapVillage, we have decided not to transfer your work to Veer Marketplace. It could be that your images just need some polishing, that you chose subjects that aren't a great fit for Veer Marketplace, or that you hadn’t submitted very many images.

But we do want to see your new work, so go ahead and put together a selection of your newest and best photos. We invite you to create an account at Veer Marketplace after June 8, 2009 and submit them for review. You might find it useful to browse through the images already for sale at Veer Marketplace and try to match or beat the quality. We’ve posted Veer Marketplace submission guidelines to help you as well.

Your work will remain on SnapVillage and you will continue to receive any royalties owed to you once a month until we close the site later this year.

We hope to see you submit your new work to Veer Marketplace.

Thanks from the Veer Marketplace Team

*I guess spending all that time uploading 5 pictures at a time was a waste of time. Maybe I got this because of my weaker material from when I first started, but then again, maybe not. Oh Well. It is what it is.

KB · « **Reply #7 on:** May 11, 2009, 16:56 »

Thanks, dragon_fang. Now I feel better.

If they don't like your stuff, no wonder they don't like my stuff (yours is better, IMO, and definitely more stock oriented).

I think Veer is making a big mistake. It seems they are rejecting many people who they should be happy to have as contributors. Perhaps they are hoping we will submit our "newest and best" photos in June.

I don't know about others, but I feel I was owed a bit of extra consideration after having loyally been with SV from the beginning (i.e., having spent a lot of time & effort uploading to a worthless site).

I'll apply to VMP if it ever makes it into the Big 6. Otherwise, good luck and good riddance to them.

CvanDijk · « **Reply #8 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:03 »

Quote from: dragon_fang on May 11, 2009, 16:44

Well enjoy the party without me. They don't like my stuff enough I guess. For those of you that haven't seen the "loser" email here it is.

Dear SnapVillage Contributor,

As you may know, we are currently in the process of rolling SnapVillage into a new microstock offering, Veer® Marketplace. As part of this transition, we have been reviewing all submissions on SnapVillage.

Unfortunately, based on the images you currently have on SnapVillage, we have decided not to transfer your work to Veer Marketplace. It could be that your images just need some polishing, that you chose subjects that aren't a great fit for Veer Marketplace, or that you hadn’t submitted very many images.

But we do want to see your new work, so go ahead and put together a selection of your newest and best photos. We invite you to create an account at Veer Marketplace after June 8, 2009 and submit them for review. You might find it useful to browse through the images already for sale at Veer Marketplace and try to match or beat the quality. We’ve posted Veer Marketplace submission guidelines to help you as well.

Your work will remain on SnapVillage and you will continue to receive any royalties owed to you once a month until we close the site later this year.

We hope to see you submit your new work to Veer Marketplace.

Thanks from the Veer Marketplace Team

*I guess spending all that time uploading 5 pictures at a time was a waste of time. Maybe I got this because of my weaker material from when I first started, but then again, maybe not. Oh Well. It is what it is.

I had the same email. They just don't like my pictures, but hope to see me submit my new work to Veer Marketplace?

?? I hope that soon I have more time to upload, but I don't think it will be Veer, better spent some more time on IS, DT and other sites, who do want (some) of my images. Guess I'm just a little dissapointed in Veer now

madelaide · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:13 »

My images also need some polishing. I'll pass.

Regards,
Adelaide

Dreamframer · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:22 »

That's really strange! How they choose people? What they look for? I think you girls both have very stock worthy images. Strange....

madelaide · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:26 »

Hmm, Whitechild, maybe they don't like girls?

melastmohican · « **Reply #12 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:30 »

They just transfer top earning accounts and hope that others will do rest of work for them. I am not planning to do anything, this deal was only interesting for me if I did not have to start from scratch again.

goldenangel · « **Reply #13 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:33 »

I was not on SV, but these rejections from established contributors sound really strange.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:36 »

I

Quote from: melastmohican on May 11, 2009, 17:30

They just transfer top earning accounts and hope that others will do rest of work for them. I am not planning to do anything, this deal was only interesting for me if I did not have to start from scratch again.

I have only 9 images at SV, and I never sold one.... I was hoping they will implement FTP but they didn't.....

KB · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:40 »

Quote from: madelaide on May 11, 2009, 17:26

Hmm, Whitechild, maybe they don't like girls?

I am not a girl, so there goes that theory.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #16 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:47 »

I mean, I can say now that my username is the same everywhere and they could easily look at my other ports, but I doubt they really did it. Also, there is no reason if you ask me to include my images, and not to include images of some other photographers that are better than me.

KB · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:48 »

Quote from: Whitechild on May 11, 2009, 17:36

I have only 9 images at SV, and I never sold one.... I was hoping they will implement FTP but they didn't.....

Yep.

See, that's what really bugs me, because I painstakingly UL's many 100s of images the hard way (the SV way!). A lot of effort for nearly zero payback, and a "sorry, Charley" kick in the butt now.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #18 on:** May 11, 2009, 17:53 »

Yes,

that's really weird. And now what? Your images will be deleted from SV in time??

goldenangel · « **Reply #20 on:** May 11, 2009, 18:21 »

Quote from: AaronBooth link=topic=7859.msg97245#msg97245

For the SV to Veer Marketplace migration, we based our selections on contributors' past sales performance and image quality. Due to the high volume of contributors to evaluate, the sales history played an important role in making our selections.

I was not there so I am not affected in any way but perhaps you could shine a bit more light on what sales numbers were deemed as qualifying here. That way the rejected contributors would know more about the criteria used for selection and how objective they were.

Also, how many is a few of the best images, used for application?

melastmohican · « **Reply #21 on:** May 11, 2009, 18:32 »

Quote from: AaronBooth on May 11, 2009, 18:10

Hi folks,

This is a really good point.

Veer's success in the macrostock world is largely due to the curated approach we take to developing image collections and brands. Customers appreciate Veer because our selectivity has always made it easy for them to quickly find relevant images without having the dig through pages and pages of search results.

For the SV to Veer Marketplace migration, we based our selections on contributors' past sales performance and image quality. Due to the high volume of contributors to evaluate, the sales history played an important role in making our selections.

Considering that we're pulling sales info from SnapVillage which (as we all know) hasn't exactly been a beacon for consistency in the microstock industry it's possible that some unselected contributors are established and talented but didn't have enough of a proven sales history in SV to be flagged for auto-migration.

If you feel that you've been overlooked, then please prove us wrong. You just have to upload a few of your best images on June 8th and we'll take it from there.

Aaron

Great now they see that they pissed off so many people so they try to say "we have been joking". As I said somewhere before this deal was only valid for if I did not have to upload couple hundred images again. Since there was no sales there anyway I am not going to put any additional effort to this site or it's successors. Hasta la vista baby.

KB · « **Reply #22 on:** May 11, 2009, 19:16 »

I might be wrong, but I read Aaron's post to mean that if you upload a few of your best and they like what they see, then they'll migrate those in your SV port they deem worthy (thus alleviating the need to re-upload 100s or 1000s of images).

I won't be here on June 8th, but I assume the offer will be good for a while after that date. If I'm correct, then perhaps I'll take him up on the offer.

Once I decided to opt out of subs on SV, my sales dropped off the proverbial cliff. I guess that's why I wasn't chosen; too few sales.

Shoot, I even had one of my images featured on their homepage for a few days, so they liked at least one of them!

melastmohican · « **Reply #23 on:** May 11, 2009, 19:25 »

They did not look at images just sales numbers I guess. Now they offer to review images.

KB · « **Reply #25 on:** May 11, 2009, 20:02 »

Quote from: AaronBooth on May 11, 2009, 19:54

Well, I mean that if you were not selected for auto-migration and if you believe that you'd be a successful contributor to Veer Marketplace, then we welcome you to apply to become contributor by uploading your latest and greatest images on June 8th or after.

Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification, Aaron.

I guess I'll just leave this sad mess behind, then.

gostwyck · « **Reply #26 on:** May 11, 2009, 20:17 »

Tim Markley · « **Reply #27 on:** May 11, 2009, 20:22 »

So the prime criteria was sales from a site that was inconsistant at best? Why not just tranfer the ones with sales then?

eppic · « **Reply #28 on:** May 11, 2009, 20:30 »

I got the "welcome to Veer" email as well. Would be cool to see the marketplace succeed.

Phil · « **Reply #29 on:** May 11, 2009, 21:21 »

Quote from: eppic on May 11, 2009, 20:30

I got the "welcome to Veer" email as well. Would be cool to see the marketplace succeed.

me too

KB · « **Reply #30 on:** May 11, 2009, 21:53 »

Quote from: gostwyck on May 11, 2009, 20:17

Quote from: Whitechild on May 11, 2009, 17:47
I mean, I can say now that my username is the same everywhere and they could easily look at my other ports, but I doubt they really did it.

Maybe they did. You're not exactly setting the stock-world on fire are you? When, after several months, the size of your portfolio is waaaay bigger than your sales, with precious little likelihood of that changing any time soon, it may be a sign that your talents lie elsewhere. Based on your record you can hardly expect Veer to be 'frothing at the bit' for your port can you?

I'm totally confused. Ivan said he got the same email as Perseus, and Perseus said he was accepted. So was that wrong?

Not that it matters. I should drop these Veer threads; I'm done!

goldenangel · « **Reply #31 on:** May 11, 2009, 22:29 »

Quote from: gostwyck on May 11, 2009, 20:17

Quote from: Whitechild on May 11, 2009, 17:47
I mean, I can say now that my username is the same everywhere and they could easily look at my other ports, but I doubt they really did it.

Maybe they did. You're not exactly setting the stock-world on fire are you? When, after several months, the size of your portfolio is waaaay bigger than your sales, with precious little likelihood of that changing any time soon, it may be a sign that your talents lie elsewhere. Based on your record you can hardly expect Veer to be 'frothing at the bit' for your port can you?

gostwyck,
Whitechild was accepted at Veer. Was the point of your post to just personally attack him?

null · « **Reply #32 on:** May 12, 2009, 01:13 »

Quote from: gostwyck on May 11, 2009, 20:17

You're not exactly setting the stock-world on fire are you? When, after several months, the size of your portfolio is waaaay bigger than your sales, with precious little likelihood of that changing any time soon, it may be a sign that your talents lie elsewhere.

Charming.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #33 on:** May 12, 2009, 02:41 »

Quote from: gostwyck on May 11, 2009, 20:17

Quote from: Whitechild on May 11, 2009, 17:47
I mean, I can say now that my username is the same everywhere and they could easily look at my other ports, but I doubt they really did it.

Maybe they did. You're not exactly setting the stock-world on fire are you? When, after several months, the size of your portfolio is waaaay bigger than your sales, with precious little likelihood of that changing any time soon, it may be a sign that your talents lie elsewhere. Based on your record you can hardly expect Veer to be 'frothing at the bit' for your port can you?

Gostwyck,
Your comment is a typical comment of a sad person. This is not the first time you have such comments for other people. What forced you to attack me personally and to comment my talent? Your comment talks more about you than about my talent. Maybe I am not perfect photographer, but I didn't say I am perfect. Read my previous posts... I am sure you won't find a single sparkle of evil, but your post is full of it.
Try to find the real reason in you for posting such comments. When you solve the problem that bothers you, you will feel much better, trust me.

With this comment I am closing this conversation with you. There are many good people here. I hope in time you will get more positive. The last thing we need here is negative energy...

qwerty · « **Reply #34 on:** May 12, 2009, 02:49 »

what a pain, I loaded about 10 photos ages ago to Snapvillage, got one sale subcription in ages and wasn't wasting my time with them.

Then they announce change to Veer, sounds good, so I started uploading my whole portfolio 5 by 5.
I had some spare bandwidth and thought I'll give these guys a go. (I even got a $17.80 commision on one sale with the new content)
Get my portfolio on there , then I get a email saying "not good enough"
Why were they accepted onto Snapvillage (after the plan to migrate stuff to Veer) at all if my portfolio isn't good enough ?

edited for clarity

leaf · « **Reply #35 on:** May 12, 2009, 03:22 »

Well you can still try and apply in June again, so all is not lost. I also heard (or did I just imagine it) that the upload process is going to be better... here's hoping.

qwerty · « **Reply #36 on:** May 12, 2009, 04:03 »

lol

Yeah fantastic, can't wait to load those 400 odd photos again.

Phil · « **Reply #37 on:** May 12, 2009, 04:34 »

Quote from: leaf on May 12, 2009, 03:22

Well you can still try and apply in June again, so all is not lost. I also heard (or did I just imagine it) that the upload process is going to be better... here's hoping.

I was about to say that it couldn't be much worse and I thought of redbubble... and istock without deepmeta... oh well, here's hoping its better

madelaide · « **Reply #38 on:** May 12, 2009, 05:29 »

Some people seem to have fun in putting others down. So sick.

willie · « **Reply #39 on:** May 12, 2009, 08:09 »

sometimes we forget that Veer existed before SV was acquired, and we think SV is Veer. we have to objectively understand this is not so.
the transfer process isn't blanket BECAUSE Veer is NOT SV.

but when our ego's in place, it's difficult to be critical at our own port, esp. in cases when we "already so many dls in IS, DT, StockXpert, BigStock," etc.. i think when we use this hackneyed mentality, it's destructive against our own judgement.

and leaf's right :

Quote from: leaf on May 12, 2009, 03:22

Well you can still try and apply in June again, so all is not lost.

PenelopeB · « **Reply #40 on:** May 12, 2009, 09:50 »

I would have liked to have "culled" my SV portfolio prior to this, but couldn't find where to do so, so my attempt to "populate" SV with photos in the beginning and have faith in a new site backfired now and I got the "we'll call you" email as well.

Sucks. Thanks Corbis and Veer. Maybe it is a "girl" thing. Kidding. No snotty replies please. I get it... take better pictures.

travismanley · « **Reply #41 on:** May 12, 2009, 10:21 »

I really hate getting jerked around by these sites. I emailed Snapvillage right after they announced that they were moving to Veer saying I did not want to waste anymore time than I had already uploading five photos at a time if they were not going to be moved to Veer and they assured me I had nothing to worry about, then I get this email saying my images will not be moved to Veer!

AaronBooth · « **Reply #42 on:** May 12, 2009, 10:48 »

Good morning, everybody.

It's true, Veer sets the bar higher than SnapVillage and does not accept every submitted image to our site. I have these same conversations with established macrostock companies who earn millions of dollars from Veer annually, as we don't accept all of their images either. Our selectivity makes Veer's business stronger and makes more money for all our contributors.

We understand the frustration for those of who started uploading new images over the last couple of months, only to be told you have not been selected for auto-migration. The silver lining here, is that the new contributor site is awesome and light years ahead of the SV system so loading your new images on June 8th will be easy and I dare to say - enjoyable!

Batch FTP - Keywords map to Veer's Controlled Vocabulary - Flip between list view and grid view of images - Weighted keyword relevancy tools - Great UI - plus other cool stuff soon to be seen.

Like Perseus says, Veer is a different company and this really is a fresh start.

Hope to see you on June 8th.

StockManiac · « **Reply #43 on:** May 12, 2009, 11:01 »

Quote from: AaronBooth on May 12, 2009, 10:48

...Keywords map to Veer's Controlled Vocabulary...

Did he actually say the CV word???

kingjon · « **Reply #44 on:** May 12, 2009, 11:32 »

I was rejected also. The email I received was a bit different - it suggested my port was too small. I don't remember how many images I had on SV - I had uploaded a while ago as a test to see if the site might work for me. It didn't.

I acutally see high(er) standards as a positive sign. No matter how much marketting you do, if you don't have quality images, you won't attract buyers. Didn't SV accept everything?

I probably will give them a try in the fall.

travismanley · « **Reply #45 on:** May 12, 2009, 11:36 »

Quote from: StockManiac on May 12, 2009, 11:01

Quote from: AaronBooth on May 12, 2009, 10:48
...Keywords map to Veer's Controlled Vocabulary...

Did he actually say the CV word???

How does Controlled Vocabulary work?

PeterChigmaroff · « **Reply #46 on:** May 12, 2009, 12:11 »

I congratulate VMP for tightening the standards on accepted images. They should think up and image exclusive scheme.

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #47 on:** May 12, 2009, 12:19 »

Quote from: KB on May 11, 2009, 17:48

Quote from: Whitechild on May 11, 2009, 17:36
I have only 9 images at SV, and I never sold one.... I was hoping they will implement FTP but they didn't.....
Yep.

See, that's what really bugs me, because I painstakingly UL's many 100s of images the hard way (the SV way!). A lot of effort for nearly zero payback, and a "sorry, Charley" kick in the butt now.

I know how you feel KB. I was with them from the start and kept uploading right up to the final few days. We all have to get used to rejections in this business and move on but to get 883 rejections in one email is devastating after all the work put in. Not even a "thank you for the time and effort you spent helping build Snapvillage from nothing" note at the end. But anyway Ivan, congratulations on getting in ( did you have your legendary Cat and Dog Having Sex photo on there? That must have swung it for you!). Good luck at Veer, Regards, David

Dreamframer · « **Reply #48 on:** May 12, 2009, 12:31 »

No Newsfocus1. I didn't have that image there.

patballard · « **Reply #49 on:** May 12, 2009, 12:36 »

If you'd had it up, you might have gotten in even sooner.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #50 on:** May 12, 2009, 13:02 »

C' ya guys! I have to go!

willie · « **Reply #51 on:** May 13, 2009, 08:20 »

Quote from: Whitechild on May 12, 2009, 13:02

C' ya guys! I have to go!

Instead of congratulating Whitechild, you humiliate him for his success?

It's truly a sad day in microstock forum if some of you can be so envious as to take a stab at one of your peers.
Et tu, Brute? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_tu,_Brute%3F

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #52 on:** May 13, 2009, 13:26 »

Quote from: Perseus on May 13, 2009, 08:20

Quote from: Whitechild on May 12, 2009, 13:02
C' ya guys! I have to go!

Instead of congratulating Whitechild, you humiliate him for his success?

It's truly a sad day in microstock forum if some of you can be so envious as to take a stab at one of your peers.
Et tu, Brute? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_tu,_Brute%3F

"some of you" ? The only posting I see that fits that criteria was the totally unpleasant one from gostwyck. I hope you are not including my comments, as I was genuinely congratulating Ivan on getting accepted at Veer. The reference to the Cat and Dog photo was humerous and this image is indeed legendary (there's a thread here somewhere, and the story has turned up on other blogs as well). Just wanted to clarify that because anyone reading this thread might presume (wrongly) that you are including me in the "some of you" . Regards, David

willie · « **Reply #53 on:** May 13, 2009, 13:29 »

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on May 13, 2009, 13:26

Quote from: Perseus on May 13, 2009, 08:20
Quote from: Whitechild on May 12, 2009, 13:02
C' ya guys! I have to go!

Instead of congratulating Whitechild, you humiliate him for his success?

It's truly a sad day in microstock forum if some of you can be so envious as to take a stab at one of your peers.
Et tu, Brute? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_tu,_Brute%3F

"some of you" ? The only posting I see that fits that criteria was the totally unpleasant one from gostwyck. I hope you are not including my comments, as I was genuinely congratulating Ivan on getting accepted at Veer. The reference to the Cat and Dog photo was humerous and this image is indeed legendary (there's a thread here somewhere, and the story has turned up on other blogs as well). Just wanted to clarify that because anyone reading this thread might presume (wrongly) that you are including me in the "some of you" . Regards, David

Let's simply say whoever they are they know .

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #54 on:** May 13, 2009, 13:39 »

Quote from: Perseus on May 13, 2009, 13:29

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on May 13, 2009, 13:26
Quote from: Perseus on May 13, 2009, 08:20
Quote from: Whitechild on May 12, 2009, 13:02
C' ya guys! I have to go!

Instead of congratulating Whitechild, you humiliate him for his success?

It's truly a sad day in microstock forum if some of you can be so envious as to take a stab at one of your peers.
Et tu, Brute? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_tu,_Brute%3F

"some of you" ? The only posting I see that fits that criteria was the totally unpleasant one from gostwyck. I hope you are not including my comments, as I was genuinely congratulating Ivan on getting accepted at Veer. The reference to the Cat and Dog photo was humerous and this image is indeed legendary (there's a thread here somewhere, and the story has turned up on other blogs as well). Just wanted to clarify that because anyone reading this thread might presume (wrongly) that you are including me in the "some of you" . Regards, David

Let's simply say whoever they are they know .

Thanks for clarifying that

Regards, David

willie · « **Reply #55 on:** May 13, 2009, 13:41 »

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on May 13, 2009, 13:39

Quote from: Perseus on May 13, 2009, 13:29
Let's simply say whoever they are they know .

Thanks for clarifying that Regards, David

i wasn't clarifying anything, i simply said what i said

massman · « **Reply #56 on:** May 13, 2009, 14:42 »

Quote from: Perseus on May 13, 2009, 13:41

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on May 13, 2009, 13:39
Quote from: Perseus on May 13, 2009, 13:29
Let's simply say whoever they are they know .

Thanks for clarifying that Regards, David

i wasn't clarifying anything, i simply said what i said

Can you clarify what you meant by what you said?

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #57 on:** May 13, 2009, 14:54 »

Quote from: massman on May 13, 2009, 14:42

Quote from: Perseus on May 13, 2009, 13:41
Quote from: Newsfocus1 on May 13, 2009, 13:39
Quote from: Perseus on May 13, 2009, 13:29
Let's simply say whoever they are they know .

Thanks for clarifying that Regards, David

i wasn't clarifying anything, i simply said what i said

Can you clarify what you meant by what you said?

We can live in hope Massman

But I'm off to watch "The Apprentice" Regards, David

patballard · « **Reply #58 on:** May 13, 2009, 16:07 »

Yeah, I was joking about the cat and dog image. It's taken on a life of its own.

Congratulations all!

Pat

travelstock · « **Reply #59 on:** May 13, 2009, 16:32 »

I'm also one of those that doesn't seem to have made the cut - granted I only submitted 84 images out of a portfolio of around 2500 - but - the sales record for SV and upload process and performance of the site left a lot to be desired.

In all I only made $32 there - but even when sales were recorded, there was no process of notification, and the payment that should have happened automatically only came through after a specific enquiry.

I can't see how alienating those who did put effort into a failing site through blanket rejections - apparently without any sort of review helps to create goodwill from people many of whom will be both contributors AND clients. Surely if you're starting up a new enterprise you can do better than that?

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #60 on:** May 14, 2009, 17:43 »

Quote from: patballard on May 13, 2009, 16:07

Yeah, I was joking about the cat and dog image. It's taken on a life of its own.

Congratulations all!

Pat

Hi Pat, I was going to let this one go and not post anymore on this subject, but yes you and I were having some fun with this now famous image. Neither of us were putting Ivan down at all. Total congratulations to anyone from SV that got ported to Veer. Maybe some "new members" don't always get the joke. As for the "snr. member" posting I just cannot believe the vitriol in that. Why? We all come on this forum with differrent levels of experience and sales and I would hope all encourage and help each other. I am personally disgusted by that posting and I believe it is totally not in keeping with this forum. Regards, David

willie · « **Reply #61 on:** May 14, 2009, 17:47 »

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on May 14, 2009, 17:43

Quote from: patballard on May 13, 2009, 16:07
Yeah, I was joking about the cat and dog image. It's taken on a life of its own.

Congratulations all!

Pat

Hi Pat, I was going to let this one go and not post anymore on this subject, but yes you and I were having some fun with this now famous image. Neither of us were putting Ivan down at all. Total congratulations to anyone from SV that got ported to Veer. Maybe some "new members" don't always get the joke. As for the "snr. member" posting I just cannot believe the vitriol in that. Why? We all come on this forum with differrent levels of experience and sales and I would hope all encourage and help each other. I am personally disgusted by that posting and I believe it is totally not in keeping with this forum. Regards, David

There, you got your tuppence worth getting it off your chest.. ! Isn't democracy fab?

newcomer

Newsfocus1 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 14, 2009, 18:10 »

Quote from: Perseus on May 14, 2009, 17:47

Quote from: Newsfocus1 on May 14, 2009, 17:43
Quote from: patballard on May 13, 2009, 16:07
Yeah, I was joking about the cat and dog image. It's taken on a life of its own.

Congratulations all!

Pat

Hi Pat, I was going to let this one go and not post anymore on this subject, but yes you and I were having some fun with this now famous image. Neither of us were putting Ivan down at all. Total congratulations to anyone from SV that got ported to Veer. Maybe some "new members" don't always get the joke. As for the "snr. member" posting I just cannot believe the vitriol in that. Why? We all come on this forum with differrent levels of experience and sales and I would hope all encourage and help each other. I am personally disgusted by that posting and I believe it is totally not in keeping with this forum. Regards, David

There, you got your tuppence worth getting it off your chest.. ! Isn't democracy fab?

newcomer

I have no idea where you are coming from. There is only one person here who has had a go at Ivan. Not me.Not Pat. Regards, David

epixx · « **Reply #63 on:** May 18, 2009, 20:08 »

Quote from: holgs on May 13, 2009, 16:32

I'm also one of those that doesn't seem to have made the cut - granted I only submitted 84 images out of a portfolio of around 2500 - but - the sales record for SV and upload process and performance of the site left a lot to be desired.

In all I only made $32 there - but even when sales were recorded, there was no process of notification, and the payment that should have happened automatically only came through after a specific enquiry.

I can't see how alienating those who did put effort into a failing site through blanket rejections - apparently without any sort of review helps to create goodwill from people many of whom will be both contributors AND clients. Surely if you're starting up a new enterprise you can do better than that?

Interestingly, I haven't been transferred either (1,400 images at SV). I don't see it as a great loss, at least not for now, but when I look at images and portfolios that have been accepted, and that cover the same themes as I do, I'm not sure if I agree with them. Some themes that do very well for me are simply not covered at all. It will be interesting to see how they develop.

Edit:
I'm far too kind in my characteristics. I did a few searches from a buyers point of view, and the "young-smiling-girl-in-office" and some other mainstream themes seem to be well covered, but get a tiny bit off the beaten track and there are very big holes. These guys need all the photos they can get, and I wonder why they've limited the transfer from SV at all. As a buyer, I search at agencies that offer a wide variety of themes. If this is what Veer is planning to offer initially, they're already off my list.

A few examples: A search for "Business jet" gives 22 hits at Veer, of which two show a business jet. "Lotus flower" on the other hand, gives 140 hits, and most of them are at least water lilies. Very few lotus flowers though. "Hanoi" gives one hit (people do buy travel photos, at least from my portfolio), and it's not even a good photo. I'm afraid they have a long way to go...

null · « **Reply #64 on:** May 19, 2009, 03:27 »

Quote from: epixx on May 18, 2009, 20:08

Interestingly, I haven't been transferred either (1,400 images at SV). I don't see it as a great loss, at least not for now, but when I look at images and portfolios that have been accepted, and that cover the same themes as I do, I'm not sure if I agree with them. Some themes that do very well for me are simply not covered at all. It will be interesting to see how they develop.

It is a loss, uploading that many images by their ~~snappy~~crappy upload ordeal. Veer might have a very good name in the MR or high end stock world, but if they inherited any of the staff and/or programmers from SV, they will fail in the microstock world. As it looks now, Veer-microstock~~marketplace~~ is just a new starting ms site. It remains to be seen if they can adapt to the different market approach of microstock. SV wasn't exactly a high flier, to say the least. The worst thing for their existing contributors could be that the existing customers would turn to the microstock branch and they will be cannibalized. Tricky game.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating of course, but I'm not that sure I'd like to even taste it, after the bad taste that SV left behind. After all, we already have Crestock to hate and iStock to bash.

pauloresende · « **Reply #65 on:** May 19, 2009, 03:52 »

I did not received any email!!
I´m not accept and i´m not rejected?!?!?!
Did i get lost in the hyperspace?
I feel like i don´t get to heaven but i don´t have passage to hell also?!?!

Clivia · « **Reply #66 on:** May 19, 2009, 05:00 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on May 19, 2009, 03:27

It is a loss, uploading that many images by their ~~snappy~~crappy upload ordeal. Veer might have a very good name in the MR or high end stock world, but if they inherited any of the staff and/or programmers from SV, they will fail in the microstock world.

Yes, but the staff will have nice 'holidays' while they are 'brainstorming'.
I won't forgive them for that one. It was unforgivable for them to take that freebie while starting a new site.
Nothing came of it except their tans.

I got accepted, even though I have not uploaded anything for months and months, and I am a female.

sharpshot · « **Reply #67 on:** May 19, 2009, 05:08 »

Quote from: epixx on May 18, 2009, 20:08

Edit:
I'm far too kind in my characteristics. I did a few searches from a buyers point of view, and the "young-smiling-girl-in-office" and some other mainstream themes seem to be well covered, but get a tiny bit off the beaten track and there are very big holes. These guys need all the photos they can get, and I wonder why they've limited the transfer from SV at all. As a buyer, I search at agencies that offer a wide variety of themes. If this is what Veer is planning to offer initially, they're already off my list.

A few examples: A search for "Business jet" gives 22 hits at Veer, of which two show a business jet. "Lotus flower" on the other hand, gives 140 hits, and most of them are at least water lilies. Very few lotus flowers though. "Hanoi" gives one hit (people do buy travel photos, at least from my portfolio), and it's not even a good photo. I'm afraid they have a long way to go...

It looks like they are still transferring a lot of images from SV. I was accepted but can't see mine on their site yet. Lets wait and see what it is like when they launch next month.

willie · « **Reply #68 on:** May 19, 2009, 08:06 »

Quote from: sharpshot on May 19, 2009, 05:08

It looks like they are still transferring a lot of images from SV. I was accepted but can't see mine on their site yet. Lets wait and see what it is like when they launch next month.

sharpshot, if i read my email correctly, we will get an invitation email from Veers with our password sometime around June 8 , so i guess by that time we will have our port there.

Quote from: pauloresende on May 19, 2009, 03:52

I did not received any email!!
I´m not accept and i´m not rejected?!?!?!
Did i get lost in the hyperspace?
I feel like i don´t get to heaven but i don´t have passage to hell also?!?!

did you check your bulk mail? may have gone there via your spam filter.
if not, maybe if you double check you got your email correctly on SV, then maybe send them a mail.
no harm in doing that .
or you can just wait till June 8 to submit directly . hope this helps.

MikLav · « **Reply #69 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:21 »

Quote from: travismanley on May 12, 2009, 11:36

How does Controlled Vocabulary work?

You are already on iStock, why do you ask?

Perry · « **Reply #70 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:32 »

I had about 1000 images on SV, and now I have about 250 on VMP.

What bothers me is that some of my images are small 3 to 4 MP, and they still seem to sell them in big (upsized?) sizes... they must look like crap...

They seem to have selected images that have a certain "Veer" look, too bad they excluded many bestsellers.

jsolie · « **Reply #71 on:** May 19, 2009, 15:48 »

Quote from: Perry on May 19, 2009, 11:32

I had about 1000 images on SV, and now I have about 250 on VMP.

I'm kind of wondering about that, too. I was able to find my gallery there, and it's just a small portion of what I have on SV. Back when the StockXpert/photos.com/JIU thing erupted, they indicated that all StockXpert images would be available on the other sites. I've found several of my images that are available on StockXpert, but are not on photos.com/JIU. I suspect that there really was a screening process, and I'm wondering if there will be something similar with the transition to Veer.

Then that begs the question, if some of our images which sell well on other sites are "screened" out by Veer, would there be anything preventing a contributor to go through the normal submission channel with their "screened-out" images?

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