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Agency Based Discussion => Sites that no longer exist => Veer => Topic started by: disorderly on February 16, 2010, 18:13

Title: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: disorderly on February 16, 2010, 18:13
Doing my way-too-many-times-a-day check of the agencies when I stopped dead.  My total revenue at Veer had jumped an order of magnitude!  Three medium sized sales, followed by three extended licenses for each of the same images.  Total revenue: $110.25.  Let's do that a few more times, shall we?
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: cathyslife on February 16, 2010, 18:43
sweet!
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Post by: donding on February 16, 2010, 18:52
Congrats!!! I haven't gotten with Veer...I always heard they were fairly slow...am I correct?
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: lisafx on February 16, 2010, 19:08
Congrats disorderly!  Very nice to hear. 

Let me know if the sales become steady, rather than just the occasional big score on EL's. 

It would be great to see them pick up, but since I pulled my port from there due to lack of sales (and exclusivity plans, which are on hold at the moment for well-known reasons) it would be a huge hassle to reupload. 

Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: disorderly on February 16, 2010, 19:26
Congrats!!! I haven't gotten with Veer...I always heard they were fairly slow...am I correct?

They've been slow for me; $28 in six months.  And their reviews are even less forgiving than Crestock, if such a thing is possible.  I suspect today's a fluke that won't be repeated soon, but I'll be happy to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: sharpshot on February 16, 2010, 19:42
I still think there could be a nice upsurge in sales there when they start spending money on marketing.  SV never took off but the site was a mess and had lots of problems.  Veer MP seem to be doing better and there is still the opportunity for Corbis to get in to the microstock market if they really want to.

My sales aren't great there but at least I am getting some each month and there are signs of life.  A lot of new sites are really struggling to get any sales going.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: oboy on February 16, 2010, 19:47
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: Dreamframer on February 17, 2010, 00:43
Cooooooooooooool! :) Congrats! I wish you many more!
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: PowerDroid on February 17, 2010, 00:56
It's great to hear anecdotes of some big sales at Veer, but my experience so far discourages me from continuing to upload there.  I've done a grand total of $130 since late July.  The peak was right around August 1 to 10, and the overall trend has been a downward slope, with a few flukey days of significant sales sprinkled in.  I refuse to upload any more until I see a noticeable uptick in the sales trend, or until I hear that their reviewers have regained their senses.  It was getting pretty offensive.  One day a certain type of image would be accepted, and the next day an image in the same style or subject matter would be rejected as not commercial or poor quality.  Or a reviewer would reject an entire batch of diverse images as being too similar. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: tamasvargyasi on February 17, 2010, 01:12
Once I waked up with an extended license worth of $40.25, I was surprised too.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: qwerty on February 17, 2010, 01:25
no sales in the last three months there and views have also taken a steep downward trend too.

around 250 photos online only fotolia rejects more of my photos than veer.

Had more sales on snapvillage.
Disappointed with the performance.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: FD on February 17, 2010, 04:50
I refuse to upload any more until I see a noticeable uptick in the sales trend, or until I hear that their reviewers have regained their senses.  It was getting pretty offensive.  One day a certain type of image would be accepted, and the next day an image in the same style or subject matter would be rejected as not commercial or poor quality.  Or a reviewer would reject an entire batch of diverse images as being too similar. Etc. Etc. Etc.
+1
Veer would be doing very fine, if they would decommission most of their reviewers and replace them by people that know microstock. In my case, they only showed a great talent to reject my best sellers for LCV and accept my lesser shots. One can live with tight standards (as in IS) but not with unpredictability.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: leaf on February 17, 2010, 05:10
I am still uploading there and almost have half my port there now.  They are doing pretty good considering my port size and how new they are.  If I look at the total income from sales between Crestock, Veer and Panthermedia, they are all within a few dollars of eachother and all over 2x what I have earned on Canstock
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: Allsa on February 17, 2010, 14:50
It's my impression that the main thing holding Veer back is what appears to be their contempt for the microstock model.  In other words, they simply don't believe in their product, so how can they possibly be successful?

Why do I think they have contempt for microstock? Massive senseless rejections right out from the start tell me they regard our work as little more than throw away junk. And, the massive rejections continue, despite the fact that many contributors got fed up and left them, and this while they don't even have the downloads and sales to attract new contributors to replace those who have left. They don't value our contributions, which is why they have not bothered to do anything about the poor quality of their inspection team, which is clearly unqualified to review microstock imagery.

Think of how Fotolia bent over backwards to please us when they first started; they didn't start treating us poorly (lowering commissions, changing the canister levels, ect) until they became very successful. Veer, by contrast, started treating contributors poorly from the start. Oh, there were lots of encouraging words from their representative on this site, but their actions spoke otherwise. They have never even attempted to explain the massive rejections. I, in turn, rejected them -- After the first massive rejection of my uploads, I pulled my work from their site and I've never regretted it. I don't want to work with people who have no respect for what I do.

Take the above with a grain of salt, no, a BIG chunk of salt - because these are my impressions and nothing else. I'm just curious to see if anyone else sees the situation as I do.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: Pixart on February 17, 2010, 15:03
Now, that is a good day!  Congrats!

This is kinda funny story about Veer... I uploaded my initial 10 and then couldn't get FTP to work... I had one big sale of $1.75 last year.  THEY SENT ME $1.75 by PAYPAL AT YEAR END!!!!!  just like they promised to settle all accounts at year end.  LOL, $1.75!  I guess I better decide if I should upload more or close up shop, because 10 photos just doesn't cut it.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: disorderly on February 17, 2010, 15:18
I don't agree with your assessment, Alisa.  My first encounter with Fotolia was rather unpleasant (nine rejections from my first ten, with the lone acceptance a Photoshop effort based on scanned content), and it took a while before I tried again.  I've never been happy with their review process, and of course far less so as they've cut my percentage twice and pretty much guaranteed I'll never see an increase.  They make me money and their upload process isn't too painful, so I persevere.

Veer's an unknown quantity.  I had so many rejections among my model shots that I stopped uploading them.  And yet... the three extended licenses yesterday were all models.  So I'll try uploading some more, and when many/most are rejected, well, I'll hope what's left makes money.  I think they're wrong in their rejections, but hey, it's their site.  I'll upload if they get me sales, and stop if they stop.

There are sites I prefer and sites I don't particularly like.  But this is business, so I make my choices based on a cost/benefit basis.  But not entirely, or I'd have given up the whole thing long ago as worse than minimum wage.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: tiero on February 18, 2010, 03:56
Wow, lucky you!
For me recently Veer is just dead, long long time review and no sales with more than 1200 images on my portfolio...crestock do it better than veer! ;D
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: ThomasAmby on February 18, 2010, 04:53
With 10 initial images online I had 20 views in total (around July / August last year), then nothing. I added 20 images some months ago, and still no views in the months after August. Why is this? I'm sure you guys are getting regular views?

Oh, and no sales of course.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: Ploink on February 18, 2010, 05:01
With 10 initial images online I had 20 views in total (around July / August last year), then nothing. I added 20 images some months ago, and still no views in the months after August. Why is this? I'm sure you guys are getting regular views?

Oh, and no sales of course.

I uploaded the initial 10 pics, had some views and three sales for the grand total of USD 4.55. Then I started to upload the rest of my portfolio, but apart from ridiculus rejections - half of a  studio series obviously had problems with "pixel quality", the other half didn't  :P - I got no more sales there. Views have "picked up" in the last ten days - meaning 2/day rather than 0/week - but I still get more zooms (zooms not views  ;)) on Alamy than I get views on Veer - complete waste of time and resources for me...
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: Phil on February 18, 2010, 05:07
the odd sale with about 2500 images on (mostly transfers from snap and missing a lot of my better sellers), crestock sells more (they just dont make payouts :) and are to be gotten rid of).

Like everyone else reviews seem totally random (images with 1000's downloads across all sites, rejected as dated etc). I'm still uploading because its easy, but I treat them like I did crestock. Heres some  images, if you want them good, if not who cares I'm not bothering to see what you accept / reject because I'll learn nothing, get nothing out of doing so.

I'm not anti-Veer just indifferent and like with snapvillage, I get the feeling they dont really know what they are doing regarding microstock.  Snap seemed 'come on all you amateur holiday snappers' and no real idea what they wanted, who their contributors were etc, with veer it seems the opposite, 'we are a macro agency that is begrudgingly lowering ourselves to microstock' and its beneath them. Maybe dead wrong, just the feeling that I get.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: godrick on February 20, 2010, 08:15
After an initial burst of sales last summer, Veer has been v quiet.  Review times are very slow but the results are no quirkier than other sites.  Is this going this site is going to make it out of the New Sites / Low Earners into Up and Coming any time soon?
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: luissantos84 on February 23, 2010, 20:44
yesterday 45.5$, today 1.2$.. it promises! :)
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: epantha on February 24, 2010, 06:36
I have a 74% approval rate with nearly 500 images online, no people. Getting close to my second payout. Although there has been inconsistent sales, Veer has been doing well enough to stick with them.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: cowboybebop on April 23, 2010, 20:24
I got images rejected by Veers due to resolution,what is the size of the images you got on Veers,I tried to e-mail them but no luck. (mail got returned)
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: dk on April 24, 2010, 08:14
How do i request payment on Veer? Do they send payment automatically?
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Post by: Perry on April 24, 2010, 08:35
How do i request payment on Veer? Do they send payment automatically?

They send payment automatically each month if you have over 100 dollars of balance.
I think they also send a payment after each year even if you have under 100 dollars.
Title: Re: Wow! Major sales at Veer!
Post by: dk on April 24, 2010, 15:17
thanks!