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Title: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: leaf on May 04, 2010, 08:12
Edit: Ryan just posted an official announcement in another thread - I have merged this thread and Ryan's thread to keep the conversation together.  Ryan's original post is now lower down in this thread so i will quote it here so we have it at the start

We’re really happy with the way the Veer Marketplace collection has been growing this past year.  Many thanks for your support.  In recognition of what you’ve helped us achieve so far, and as a means to help grow our collection even faster ahead of Veer’s big re-launch this summer, we are making a push for more contributors and more content.  

Wednesday, May 5th, we’re kicking off a promotion called “Veer Dash for Cash”.

While we could just ask nicely, we think a financial incentive will help get things moving.  We’ll be offering bonus payment just for getting content approved and up on the site.  Hopefully you’ve got some new batches you still need to upload…

You can earn up to $1.40 per approved image for files submitted between May 5th and June 30th.  Even if the image is submitted between May 5th and June 30th but is published afterwards, you still get paid for that approved submission.  So upload every week during Veer Dash for Cash and it could lead to a really nice payout.

Check the Dash for Cash landing page for all of the details: Dash For Cash ([url]http://www.veer.com/ideas/dashforcash/[/url])
The FAQs here might answer some of your questions: FAQ ([url]http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/141[/url])

The program begins Wednesday, May 5th and runs through June 30th.  Get uploading!



Veer has just announced an impressive new uploading program where you get paid to upload your photos.
Veer Dash for Cash (http://www.veer.com/ideas/dashforcash/?cid=05:10:DFC:01:08:01:21::01:01:06)

It is an impressive program with a some great rewards for the photographers.  Depending on the amount of images you already have accepted and the amount of images you manage to upload during the months of June and July; you will be paid anywhere between $0.35 and $1.40 per accepted upload.  The $1.40/upload is within reach for most contributers so I think it will be well worth your time to check it out.
Title: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: joingated on May 04, 2010, 16:04
The email says that from now until the 30th June you can earn up to £1.40 for every image uploaded and accepted, has anyone else received it, Veer are in my top 5 so Im going to be on the case with uploading...
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: joingated on May 04, 2010, 16:06
Whoops I meant $1.40!
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on May 04, 2010, 16:07
I wonder if I can pull my whole portfolio and resubmit it. I too wonder why they only offer $1.40 in North America. They don't, gotccha.
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: ap on May 04, 2010, 16:08
drat, i just had 35 approved minutes ago. i wonder if they're included or they tried to rush them through before the promotion? fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: Stu99 on May 04, 2010, 16:10
drat, i just had 35 approved minutes ago. i wonder if they're included or they tried to rush them through before the promotion? fingers crossed.

I hope so for you :-)
I submitted 100 on Sunday, they are still pending, hopefully they will be included in this promotion!!??
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on May 04, 2010, 16:12
My other question is who aren't they getting. Doesn't everyone (sans crown of course) submit everywhere?
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: Phil on May 04, 2010, 16:13
they just pushed through had a couple of hundred that were pending very quickly :)

nice program, pity there is an weekly upload limit :(
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: ap on May 04, 2010, 16:15
i think they approved everything before the promotion on the 5th. http://www.veer.com/ideas/dashforcash/?cid=05:10:DFC:07:03:02:01::01:01:06 (http://www.veer.com/ideas/dashforcash/?cid=05:10:DFC:07:03:02:01::01:01:06)

double drat! i don't dare upload anything today just in case they approve before tomorrow...
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: MikLav on May 04, 2010, 16:19
seems to be the highest upload premium in microstock thus far...

I wonder if their acceptance rate will decrease 10 times...
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: epantha on May 04, 2010, 16:21
Seems like a nice incentive. Glad I've stuck with them even though last month was really bad.
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: GrantP on May 04, 2010, 16:35

Hi everyone, thanks for the early feedback.  We’ll be posting more information about the Veer Dash for Cash program in the Veer Marketplace forum Wednesday morning and we’ll be available to respond to questions you may have.  It’s going to be great!
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: Eireann on May 04, 2010, 16:41
Lol, I still have 20 pending ... (for the last 10 days).
Let's see if they get reviewed in a hurry :)

But this is a great offer and I'm very happy.
Not necessarily because of the bonus (I only have 110 images on Veer, I do not qualify for higher bonus), but because it shows signs of Corbis finally kicking back.
Finally!
They're fully capable of taking Getty head on. If only they wanted to...

This is a good offer.

It might even be good enough to convince some of the very successful contributors (Lisa and others) who had left Veer in disappointment to reconsider, and come back now.
Hopefully :)
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: ap on May 04, 2010, 16:45
wow, this is so ripe for lisa to reupload her entire portfolio!
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: Eireann on May 04, 2010, 16:46
@Zeus,
sorry, thread moving fast, typing at the same time.

Lisa closed her account a few weeks ago.
And she's not the only one.
This offer might convince them to come back.  
Fingers crossed :)
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: sam100 on May 04, 2010, 16:57
Lol, I still have 20 pending ... (for the last 10 days).
Let's see if they get reviewed in a hurry :)

But this is a great offer and I'm very happy.
Not necessarily because of the bonus (I only have 110 images on Veer, I do not qualify for higher bonus), but because it shows signs of Corbis finally kicking back.
Finally!
They're fully capable of taking Getty head on. If only they wanted to...

This is a good offer.

It might even be good enough to convince some of the very successful contributors (Lisa and others) who had left Veer in disappointment to reconsider, and come back now.
Hopefully :)

Contacted to apply and become member with them twice a year ago, they sent a mail to wait for further instructions.  I'm still waiting.

Patrick H.
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: kaycee on May 04, 2010, 16:59
I just wonder why they do this?
Are they out of STOCK...
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: Klauts on May 04, 2010, 17:01
Let's wait for the catch..
One thing I noticed in the mail:
Quote
you’ll receive a cash incentive – up to $1.40 – for every image uploaded and accepted. The more you submit, the more you’ll earn per image.
So I guess you won't receive 1.40 for each image but start at a lower point and build up to that by uploading more images..
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: leaf on May 04, 2010, 17:27
Let's wait for the catch..
One thing I noticed in the mail:
Quote
you’ll receive a cash incentive – up to $1.40 – for every image uploaded and accepted. The more you submit, the more you’ll earn per image.
So I guess you won't receive 1.40 for each image but start at a lower point and build up to that by uploading more images..

if you upload enough, it sounds like you'll get $1.40 for each upload

Quote
...
Existing contributors (400+ images on veer.com)
Get 1 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 04, 2010, 17:30
I just wonder why they do this?
Are they out of STOCK...

Seriously.  Is there a shortage of content?
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: melastmohican on May 04, 2010, 17:32
seems to be the highest upload premium in microstock thus far...

I wonder if their acceptance rate will decrease 10 times...

Haha, I am at lowest low so they cannot do worse than that, or they can?
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: leaf on May 04, 2010, 17:32
I just wonder why they do this?
Are they out of STOCK...

Seriously.  Is there a shortage of content?

Are we really going to question a great deal for photographers?   :D
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Pixart on May 04, 2010, 17:37
For once it has paid to procrastinate.  I've only submitted 20 or so.  I guess I'll be getting up to date soon enough!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Klauts on May 04, 2010, 17:41
Wow. No image lock-in? Are they actually giving us something for free? Dammit, I should have saved some shots.
Title: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 04, 2010, 18:00
We’re really happy with the way the Veer Marketplace collection has been growing this past year.  Many thanks for your support.  In recognition of what you’ve helped us achieve so far, and as a means to help grow our collection even faster ahead of Veer’s big re-launch this summer, we are making a push for more contributors and more content.  

Wednesday, May 5th, we’re kicking off a promotion called “Veer Dash for Cash”.

While we could just ask nicely, we think a financial incentive will help get things moving.  We’ll be offering bonus payment just for getting content approved and up on the site.  Hopefully you’ve got some new batches you still need to upload…

You can earn up to $1.40 per approved image for files submitted between May 5th and June 30th.  Even if the image is submitted between May 5th and June 30th but is published afterwards, you still get paid for that approved submission.  So upload every week during Veer Dash for Cash and it could lead to a really nice payout.

Check the Dash for Cash landing page for all of the details: Dash For Cash (http://www.veer.com/ideas/dashforcash/)
The FAQs here might answer some of your questions: FAQ (http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/141)

The program begins Wednesday, May 5th and runs through June 30th.  Get uploading!
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: travelstock on May 04, 2010, 18:16
I just wonder why they do this?
Are they out of STOCK...

Seriously.  Is there a shortage of content?

Well you need a fair quantity of good content to build an agency, and many independents that are successful just haven't bothered uploading because the likelihood of return on time investment doesn't seem to make the exercise worthwhile.

Maybe this is more of a sign that Corbis is finally starting to take the segment seriously and that we may see some competition. Can't be a bad thing for contributors.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Dreamframer on May 04, 2010, 18:21
Veer is probably doing this because they need more content. Even if they are doing this because maybe they noticed decrease in uploads and disappointment of some contributors, I'm glad things are finally starting to turn around, and sites are starting to pay contributors to upload. Deposit Photos, than Zoonar, now Veer (I probably forgot someone)...
nice, nice...
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Eireann on May 04, 2010, 18:45
Patrick,
lol, you got lost :)

No matter, it's in the past, water under the bridge.
The offer is good, Corbis needs no introduction and it's time to try again.
You could even contact Ryan (Veer) right here, on this forum.
I'm sure he'll help.
Good luck :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Digital66 on May 04, 2010, 19:31
An attempt to keep contributors happy and keep them from closing accounts?  
An attempt to attract contributors who have already left?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: melastmohican on May 04, 2010, 20:15
What is minimum payout at Veer? I guess somebody in marketing dept calculated how much images they can allow before user can hit a payout limit. I do not believe that they would hand over 100s of dollars to everybody just for uploading. In addition you might not be able to upload 400 images in 2 months when their queues are overloaded. We already observed what happened at DepositPhotos when too many people claimed their first payout, they removed them from promotion.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: elvinstar on May 04, 2010, 21:55
It's nice to see someone doing something for existing contributors instead of newbies! Bravo!! (http://cameraclash.com/images/s/clap.gif)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: elvinstar on May 04, 2010, 22:00
The way that I read it, it doesn't matter when they're approved...

You have to SUBMIT the image in the time-frame specified. If images are pending, I wouldn't expect them to earn the bonus.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: njnightsky on May 04, 2010, 22:47
I have over 1700 images waiting to send through but the with only 100 a week it will take me a while.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on May 05, 2010, 00:11
isn't it weird indeed that they pay for uploads (presumably to get more content) AND they limit submissions to 100 a week?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Dook on May 05, 2010, 01:26
I guess they will change the 100 a week limit. It doesn't make sense with their new goals.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: mtkang on May 05, 2010, 01:51
so has it started? i am lucky just got approved today. Since the first 10 images are submitted as jpg, i am thinking to resubmit them as vector eps, do i need to request veer marketplace to remove those jpg duplicate?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Albert Martin on May 05, 2010, 02:01
Nice to see that there IS AGENCY which respect seasoned contributors!

Good move Veer!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: sharpshot on May 05, 2010, 02:23
I think they might keep the 100 a week limit.  It is going to cost them a lot if they drop that and reviews will take forever.  It is good to see them using some of their cash to build up their collection.  Hopefully they will be as aggressive with marketing afterwords and give istock a real challenge.  Corbis is the No.2 in macro, so Veer could do the same in micro and they also have the advantage of higher upload limits for non-exclusives.  I just hope they really go for it and make me motivated to stick with microstock.

Just hope the rejection rate doesn't go through the roof and they keep the reviewers happy.  The queue has been big in the past but it will be massive now.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Reaktori on May 05, 2010, 02:31
ok. ok. Initial submission of 10 images posted. wish me luck.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: borg on May 05, 2010, 03:45
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Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: RT on May 05, 2010, 03:47
Is anybody else having difficulty uploading using FTP?

I'm using filezilla which keeps disconnecting, some files get through but most aren't with the error messages "connection timed out" "couldn't connect to server" "critical error"
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: NitorPhoto on May 05, 2010, 04:03
Is anybody else having difficulty uploading using FTP?

I'm using filezilla which keeps disconnecting, some files get through but most aren't with the error messages "connection timed out" "couldn't connect to server" "critical error"

Same here with Filezilla. Maybe they are getting to many uploads now.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: RT on May 05, 2010, 04:10
It's not just Filezilla, I've also tried using Fetch. I'm trying to upload 100 files and so far out of 27 only 5 have got through!

This is the reason I haven't bothered uploading before, I've always had FTP problems with them.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Phil on May 05, 2010, 04:13
I could never get filezilla to connect to them when I used a proxy server. A few months ago I stopped with the proxy and since then I hit connect, it fails with a critical error message, I connect again and it fails again, then when I connect a third time it works :)  Dont know why, and no other site has a problem.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ljupco on May 05, 2010, 04:17
Uploading a whole portfolio to a start up agency without an incentive like this is a waste of time in my opinion. Sadly, I tried registering at their site but "an unexpected error occurred" several times. I'm going to give it a try later and see what happens. If they do not fix this, and the broken FTP people reported, dash for cash campaign will be useless.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Danicek on May 05, 2010, 04:30
Unless they go forward with some significant marketing campaign, the influx of new files following this promotion will make the already low sales pretty much non-existing.

Let's hope they are trying to build the library to prepare for some huge marketing.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: leaf on May 05, 2010, 04:56
Unless they go forward with some significant marketing campaign, the influx of new files following this promotion will make the already low sales pretty much non-existing.

Let's hope they are trying to build the library to prepare for some huge marketing.

good point - but it looks as though they have some serious plans for later this year

Quote
...and as a means to help grow our collection even faster ahead of Veer’s big re-launch this summer, we are making a push for more contributors and more content. 
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: leaf on May 05, 2010, 04:57
I guess they will change the 100 a week limit. It doesn't make sense with their new goals.

Yeah I'd like to hear what is happening with the limits for May and June as well.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: NitorPhoto on May 05, 2010, 05:06
It's not just Filezilla, I've also tried using Fetch. I'm trying to upload 100 files and so far out of 27 only 5 have got through!

This is the reason I haven't bothered uploading before, I've always had FTP problems with them.

After some initial errors Filezilla uploaded all my file without any further problem. BUT...
They do not read my description field from IPTC. Every other agency does. :(
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 05, 2010, 05:25
Nice to see that there IS AGENCY which respect seasoned contributors!

Good move Veer!

How is this any reflection of paying for uploads?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: DiscreetDuck on May 05, 2010, 05:40
Veer is becoming a place where you don't make money with your pictures on sale, but with the picture that are not... strange world...  ::)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Albert Martin on May 05, 2010, 05:47
Nice to see that there IS AGENCY which respect seasoned contributors!

Good move Veer!

How is this any reflection of paying for uploads?

The same as paying for uploading 'template logo' on iStock for you ;-)

I like your biased stance... You tried to collect some cash there, wasn't you?

But, we're in different teams dude. And team for which I play pays me to play unlikely yours!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 05, 2010, 05:50
Nice to see that there IS AGENCY which respect seasoned contributors!

Good move Veer!

How is this any reflection of paying for uploads?

The same as paying for uploading 'template logo' on iStock for you ;-)

I like your biased stance... You tried to collect some cash there, wasn't you?

But, we're in different teams dude. And team for which I play pays me to play unlikely yours!

I'm trying to translate what you're saying, but this doesn't have anything to do with "respect" for "seasoned contributors" unless you can explain otherwise.  It's a payment merely for uploading to any contributor.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: dirkr on May 05, 2010, 06:04
Nice to see that there IS AGENCY which respect seasoned contributors!

Good move Veer!

How is this any reflection of paying for uploads?

They pay better the more images you have online already:

Quote
Existing contributors (fewer than 199 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 99 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 100 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (200 to 399 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 49 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 50 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (400+ images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on May 05, 2010, 06:08
They pay better the more images you have online already:

Well, I guess a $.35 difference on images 50-100 could be seen as "respecting seasoned contributors".  At least your answer made sense ;)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Albert Martin on May 05, 2010, 06:20
They pay better the more images you have online already:

Well, I guess a $.35 difference on images 50-100 could be seen as "respecting seasoned contributors".  At least your answer made sense ;)

Sorry... I thought you understood it from start.

$0.70 in my case for any image accepted up to 401 is much more than $0 on your team. Not to mention that silly upload limitations of 15 or so weekly ;-)

I now have more than 400+ accepted on Veer ;-)

So, that is what I call respect to contributors.

[EDIT] in your example of 50-100 accepted it sums up to $35 - $70 which is total for some microstockers on one or two sites for whole month of downloads... But, I am aiming for 400+ accepted in this promotion ;-)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: luissantos84 on May 05, 2010, 06:28
They pay better the more images you have online already:

Well, I guess a $.35 difference on images 50-100 could be seen as "respecting seasoned contributors".  At least your answer made sense ;)

Sorry... I thought you understood it from start.

$0.70 in my case for any image accepted up to 401 is much more than $0 on your team. Not to mention that silly upload limitations of 15 or so weekly ;-)

I now have more than 400+ accepted on Veer ;-)

So, that is what I call respect to contributors.

[EDIT] in your example of 50-100 accepted it sums up to $35 - $70 which is total for some microstockers on one or two sites for whole month of downloads... But, I am aiming for 400+ accepted in this promotion ;-)

your work must be pretty good to get the 400! I got more than 1000 photos on Veer, but got other 1000 rejected.. :P

Veer knows that 400 approvals is a lot, I guess for the already contributors.. I know that are amazing photographers at other agencies not uploading there, will 400x1.4= 560$ worth for them??
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 05, 2010, 07:00
I am one of those people who uploaded and had images approved, but made one sale in several months so I gave up and pulled my images down. I would be happy to give it another shot, especially with this Dash for Cash program, and hopefully a good marketing program.

My account is still open but when I go to Your Member Page, it has delete3 as the name of the page. And I can't find my way to the Workspace to upload. I sent an email to service@veer to figure out what I need to do.

Who knows, maybe they will tell me to get lost, I had my chance.  :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: perkmeup on May 05, 2010, 07:29
The way it looks to me, is if you get 400 images accepted  (the key word here is ACCEPTED) then you will receive $1.40 for each photo accepted no matter how many images you have with them already.  They also have in small print  " Images submitted during the Veer® Dash for Cash will be reviewed and published by the end of August, and payments will be sent by September 15, 2010."

That will give them plenty of time to review and selectively take the photos they want......and I'm sure they will be pretty picky on their selections....but hey...for $1.40 for each one selected (assuming you get 400 accepted)...they should be.  I only have 126 images online....I just never got around to uploading more...they were a little picky on those and I had a few rejected, but not overly so.  I put my first 100 up today....only 3000 left......I am not even going to waste my time uploading the marginal images...as I am sure they will be axed.

I'm actually a little exited about this....for the first time a big name player that has a very good possibility of succeeding is going to pay something just to get some content....
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Eireann on May 05, 2010, 09:25
^^ Perkmeup,
I'm waaay excited :)
I can barely stand still and keep on repeating the story to all my designer friends. 
Driving them nuts :)

@Cathy,
the bonus is welcome of course, but in my books it's only secondary.
My hope is that Corbis will follow on with aggressive marketing. It makes sense.
Corbis is a respected brand. They've got the money (plenty of it), they've got the glory.
They're well capable of taking Getty's crappy 0.25 cents offers head on, with a good chance of success.
This is why I think photographers should join them now.
Not the bonus, but the future.
Hopefully :)

Contact Veer Cathy. I'm sure they'll be happy to take you (and the others) back. It sounds like it's worth it.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: AaronBooth on May 05, 2010, 11:04
Great discussion here. 

I'll clarify a few of the main questions to make sure everyone understands how Veer Dash for Cash is going to work, and why we have launched this program.

Submission Date, Publish Date, Payment:  images submitted between May 5 and June 30 that are approved will count towards your final tally, even if it's published after June 30.  We expect to have a large backlog after this program so it'll take time for our editors to get through all the submissions.  Even if your image was submitted on June 30, no matter how long the image is pending before it's published, you will be paid for it.

Weekly 100 image upload limit:  we are keeping our standard 100 image per week upload limit because we expect new contributors to sign up, which may add significantly to our submissions pool.  The weekly limit is necessary to ensure we aren't overwhelmed.  We want to take as many images as we can but it's also really important that we publish the images quickly so you can start making royalties. 

Selects:  to maximize your select rate and payout make sure to minimize similars and upload your best 100 images per week from a broad range of topics, locations, models.  We're looking for quality and variety.

Why is Veer doing this:  we are ramping up for a relaunch this summer, along with new marketing campaigns to reach a lot of new customers.  First impressions are important so naturally, we aim to impress new customers with an even bigger and better image collection.

Ryan is your point person - feel free to reach out to him with questions.

Thanks for the support!  Keep us busy!!

Aaron
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Albert Martin on May 05, 2010, 14:12
They pay better the more images you have online already:

Well, I guess a $.35 difference on images 50-100 could be seen as "respecting seasoned contributors".  At least your answer made sense ;)

Sorry... I thought you understood it from start.

$0.70 in my case for any image accepted up to 401 is much more than $0 on your team. Not to mention that silly upload limitations of 15 or so weekly ;-)

I now have more than 400+ accepted on Veer ;-)

So, that is what I call respect to contributors.

[EDIT] in your example of 50-100 accepted it sums up to $35 - $70 which is total for some microstockers on one or two sites for whole month of downloads... But, I am aiming for 400+ accepted in this promotion ;-)

your work must be pretty good to get the 400! I got more than 1000 photos on Veer, but got other 1000 rejected.. :P

Veer knows that 400 approvals is a lot, I guess for the already contributors.. I know that are amazing photographers at other agencies not uploading there, will 400x1.4= 560$ worth for them??

It is worth for me... I don't care much about what is NOT worth for some other people in branch...

Anyhow, I said I have 400+ images there and I didn't said my exact figure... But it is larger than 400 ;-)

With that $500+ I can fly on some destination and shoot more... Which means I have free trip and possibility to make few hundreds up to thousand new stock images. I am not machine-gun photographer and I don't shoot any subject more than 3-5 times! But, my average trip shooting rate is 1000-3000 images ;-)

[Edit] FYI: I have less than 200 rejected there ;-)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: luissantos84 on May 05, 2010, 14:40
3000 to stock??? eheheh ok! you must have a huge portfolio! :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: kosmikkreeper on May 05, 2010, 14:47
So if I submit 100/wk starting today that means I can only upload 900 photos out of the 3000 I have. I guess I have a few hours work to choose the best 900 so that most can get accepted. If I can get 800 approved I'll be happy with the work/reward ratio. And hopefully sales kicking in the fall.

And what's up if the FTP? No worky... :(
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Albert Martin on May 05, 2010, 14:58
So if I submit 100/wk starting today that means I can only upload 900 photos out of the 3000 I have. I guess I have a few hours work to choose the best 900 so that most can get accepted. If I can get 800 approved I'll be happy with the work/reward ratio. And hopefully sales kicking in the fall.

And what's up if the FTP? No worky... :(

Try to differ them in that batches... They don't like more than 2 from same subject ;-)

And... Be ready to have 30-70% of rejections too.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: luissantos84 on May 05, 2010, 15:02
So if I submit 100/wk starting today that means I can only upload 900 photos out of the 3000 I have. I guess I have a few hours work to choose the best 900 so that most can get accepted. If I can get 800 approved I'll be happy with the work/reward ratio. And hopefully sales kicking in the fall.

And what's up if the FTP? No worky... :(

Try to differ them in that batches... They don't like more than 2 from same subject ;-)

And... Be ready to have 30-70% of rejections too.

dont  know if I cry or laugh
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: louoates on May 05, 2010, 15:23
I'm not too excited with this promo. My 277 images are yielding almost nothing at Veer. I'm treating them as I would any newbie. If I get some sales coming in with some of my most productive images elsewhere I'll start uploading again. I'm sure if the marketing they're planning starts working I'll see some results. If not, no loss. At least with my images.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 05, 2010, 15:34
Ryan, my account is still open but I deleted my images after some months because of lack of sales. I would like to give this another go...the Dash for Cash is good incentive but more important I am hoping you are also going to be doing some heavy marketing along with this program.

I sent you an email at [email protected] earlier this morning explaining a problem I have with my account. My account is still open, or at least it appears to be. I can login with my same info from before, all my account details are correct. But when I click the Member Page link, it shows delete3 as the account holder on the page. Can you help with this? Should I just open a new account?

EDIT: Just heard back from support and even though I can see my account, apparently Veer cannot. Oh well, start from scratch it is!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: kosmikkreeper on May 05, 2010, 16:10
Can anyone upload?

I'm trying to upload via the website since FTP isn't working. But after 30 mins it still says uploading 1 of100.

Any insight? Thx!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: leaf on May 05, 2010, 16:38
i have been having a little troubles with FTP but tried connecting a few times and made it through finally
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Albert Martin on May 05, 2010, 16:42
So if I submit 100/wk starting today that means I can only upload 900 photos out of the 3000 I have. I guess I have a few hours work to choose the best 900 so that most can get accepted. If I can get 800 approved I'll be happy with the work/reward ratio. And hopefully sales kicking in the fall.

And what's up if the FTP? No worky... :(

Try to differ them in that batches... They don't like more than 2 from same subject ;-)

And... Be ready to have 30-70% of rejections too.

dont  know if I cry or laugh

Do as you wish. It was a bit of old good English Sarcasm ;-)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: graficallyminded on May 05, 2010, 16:44
How come the back-end doesn't automatically import embedded descriptions from image meta data?  Or is it just me?  Are descriptions not required?  Of course they're better to have, for SEO purposes.  I've already got around 900 images on Veer, but haven't noticed this bug until now.  My older ftp uploads pulled the descriptions from my images just fine. 
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Albert Martin on May 05, 2010, 16:45
Can anyone upload?

I'm trying to upload via the website since FTP isn't working. But after 30 mins it still says uploading 1 of100.

Any insight? Thx!

I did uploaded some 90 images - but used 'upload via browser' button...
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 05, 2010, 18:05
I just uploaded 10 via browser upload and all metadata showed up ok. Maybe just be a bug with FTP, as mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: AaronBooth on May 05, 2010, 18:10
Thanks for the feedback on the FTP issue.  Looks like one of our servers was acting up. 

The development team has resolved the problem so FTP should be working properly now. 

Let us know if you encounter any other hiccups.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: donding on May 05, 2010, 19:20
Question....what is their payout limit??? I tried looking on their site and couldn't find it.
As for the payout, someone on here said something about the small print saying payouts wouldn't be made until Sept. Does that mean you will get the upload money at that time rather you reached payout or not???

I for one don't want to upload a ton of photos and have half of them rejected (because I'm sure they will be going over them with a fine tooth comb) and then have no sales and then not get paid because I couldn't reach payout.

Do I make any sense?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: NitorPhoto on May 05, 2010, 19:24
Earlier today I uploaded about 70 images. FTP was ok but the site script couldn't read my IPTC - had to delete them all. Now I tried it again but this time all uploaded files were broken. I give up.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: donding on May 05, 2010, 19:42
Got another question...is this only for current contributors?
And the way I'm reading it you're getting .35 for the first 99
.70 for the next 100 to 399, then after that you get paid the 1.40.
It doesn't sound like just because you have 400 images on there already, that you will automatically be getting 1.40. You'll still be only getting the .35 for the first  99, then .70 for the NEXT 100 to 399. In other words you have to get 400 accepted to even get the 1.40 and that would only be on the accepted ones from 400 and up.
If I'm wrong please correct me.

Quote
""Existing contributors (fewer than 199 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 99 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 100 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (200 to 399 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 49 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 50 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (400+ images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image""
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Phillip Minnis on May 05, 2010, 20:11
I'm glad I stuck with Veer!!!

I joined the site last year, and I have 428 images in my portfolio.  Consequently, when I received the e-mail from Veer yesterday, about this latest promotion, I was pretty happy!  

In the last 18 hours, I've been flat out uploading images using FileZilla.  So far, I've uploaded over 600 images, 110 of which are now in the 'Pending' queue, awaiting inspection.  I haven't had any problems uploading, and all titles, keywords etc. worked just fine.  I still have another 400 images to upload.

Now I'm eagerly waiting to see how many of my images will be accepted.  I'm hoping for 400-500 acceptances, out of the 900 I'm submitting. :)  To get the 428 images in my portfolio, I uploaded 763, which is success rate of around 56%.

Time will tell! :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cthoman on May 05, 2010, 22:21
Question....what is their payout limit??? I tried looking on their site and couldn't find it.

Oh my god! The sky is falling. I've never seen so many people in a panic about an agency doing something good. Either submit your files or don't. Sorry, I didn't mean to single you out. I just thought this thread was a little crazy. Here's my olive branch.  :D

When will I be paid?
The minimum threshold for payout is $100.00. Royalties will accrue until you surpass $100. If you don’t happen to hit $100 during the year, you’ll automatically receive payout of any accrued royalties after the close of the calendar year.

You will be paid 15 days following the month your accrued royalties surpass $100. So if you made $50 in March, and $75 in April, you will be paid $125 by May 15th. If you made $105 during the month of June, you would receive payment on July 15th.


Referenced from here: http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/92 (http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/92)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: NitorPhoto on May 06, 2010, 10:17
Errors, errors, errors and errors. Uploading is a PAIN! Can't they find an expert for their win server or what? But truly why do they announce a promotion program when they can't make their servers work. I am going to lose my patience... and interest. :(
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Albert Martin on May 06, 2010, 10:23
Errors, errors, errors and errors. Uploading is a PAIN! Can't they find an expert for their win server or what? But truly why do they announce a promotion program when they can't make their servers work. I am going to lose my patience... and interest. :(

As I said... Browser upload works fine...
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: AaronBooth on May 06, 2010, 10:26
Question....what is their payout limit??? I tried looking on their site and couldn't find it.

Oh my god! The sky is falling. I've never seen so many people in a panic about an agency doing something good. Either submit your files or don't. Sorry, I didn't mean to single you out. I just thought this thread was a little crazy. Here's my olive branch.  :D

When will I be paid?
The minimum threshold for payout is $100.00. Royalties will accrue until you surpass $100. If you don’t happen to hit $100 during the year, you’ll automatically receive payout of any accrued royalties after the close of the calendar year.

You will be paid 15 days following the month your accrued royalties surpass $100. So if you made $50 in March, and $75 in April, you will be paid $125 by May 15th. If you made $105 during the month of June, you would receive payment on July 15th.


Referenced from here: [url]http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/92[/url] ([url]http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/92[/url])


To clarify -- the above information is correct for image royalties generated from sales but payment for Veer Dash for Cash uploads will be on or before September 15.  We'll pay everyone as soon as we've finished editing all the submissions - hopefully in July so we can make the payment in August.  If the edit is completed in August, then we make the payment in September.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: AaronBooth on May 06, 2010, 10:38
FTP Upload:

Make sure your FTP client's protocol is set to "FTP over explicit TLS/SSL".

Read the FTP help information in the Upload area of your workspace for more detail.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: donding on May 06, 2010, 10:44
Aaron
Is the information below correct? Is this for current contributors only or does it also include new contributors that registered after the Dash for Cash start date? Just want to clarify this.
 
Got another question...is this only for current contributors?
And the way I'm reading it you're getting .35 for the first 99
.70 for the next 100 to 399, then after that you get paid the 1.40.
It doesn't sound like just because you have 400 images on there already, that you will automatically be getting 1.40. You'll still be only getting the .35 for the first  99, then .70 for the NEXT 100 to 399. In other words you have to get 400 accepted to even get the 1.40 and that would only be on the accepted ones from 400 and up.
If I'm wrong please correct me.

Quote
""Existing contributors (fewer than 199 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 99 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 100 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (200 to 399 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 49 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 50 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (400+ images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image""
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: sbonk on May 06, 2010, 10:57
It says on the Veer web site it is good for new contributors.

New contributors
Get 1 to 199 images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 200 to 399 images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: AaronBooth on May 06, 2010, 11:01
Aaron
Is the information below correct? Is this for current contributors only or does it also include new contributors that registered after the Dash for Cash start date? Just want to clarify this.
 
Got another question...is this only for current contributors?
And the way I'm reading it you're getting .35 for the first 99
.70 for the next 100 to 399, then after that you get paid the 1.40.
It doesn't sound like just because you have 400 images on there already, that you will automatically be getting 1.40. You'll still be only getting the .35 for the first  99, then .70 for the NEXT 100 to 399. In other words you have to get 400 accepted to even get the 1.40 and that would only be on the accepted ones from 400 and up.
If I'm wrong please correct me.

Quote
""Existing contributors (fewer than 199 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 99 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 100 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (200 to 399 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 49 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 50 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (400+ images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image""

Good question.

If you were a contributor with a completed, approved account prior to May 5, then you are an existing contributor in Veer Dash for Cash. 

If you registered on May 5 (or after), then you are a new contributor in Veer Dash for Cash.

If you had partially registered before May 5 and never completed your account (tax forms, etc), then you are a new contributor in Veer Dash for Cash. 


New contributors
Get 1 to 199 images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 200 to 399 images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.


Existing contributors (fewer than 199 images on veer.com as of May 5, 2010)
Get 1 to 99 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 100 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.

Existing contributors (200 to 399 images on veer.com as of May 5, 2010)
Get 1 to 49 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 50 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.

Existing contributors (400+ images on veer.com as of May 5, 2010)
Get 1 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: NitorPhoto on May 06, 2010, 11:02
Make sure your FTP client's protocol is set to "FTP over explicit TLS/SSL".

I am trying this right now.... I am still getting the critical file transfer error.
Thanks for helping me Aaron!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on May 06, 2010, 12:54
So you can you submit a 100 a week over 8 weeks = 800 images. To get the 400 images accepted so that you can grab the $1.40 per image prize you need an acceptance rate of 50%. Of the active contributors here, how many of you were exceeding 50% acceptance rates on an ongoing basis? Don't get me wrong, I think this is a good deal. I'm just wondering what the odds are of actually getting $1.40 per image accepted.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: luissantos84 on May 06, 2010, 13:07
So you can you submit a 100 a week over 8 weeks = 800 images. To get the 400 images accepted so that you can grab the $1.40 per image prize you need an acceptance rate of 50%. Of the active contributors here, how many of you were exceeding 50% acceptance rates on an ongoing basis? Don't get me wrong, I think this is a good deal. I'm just wondering what the odds are of actually getting $1.40 per image accepted.

you can do it :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on May 06, 2010, 13:12
i would take note of what kind of images veer is looking for. my most recent batch of medical related pics all went through 100% (while 123 is rejecting most of them). perhaps this is due to their wanting science related photos. of course, my overall acceptance ratio falls way short of that.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: gostwyck on May 06, 2010, 15:03
Great discussion here. 

I'll clarify a few of the main questions to make sure everyone understands how Veer Dash for Cash is going to work, and why we have launched this program.

Submission Date, Publish Date, Payment:  images submitted between May 5 and June 30 that are approved will count towards your final tally, even if it's published after June 30.  We expect to have a large backlog after this program so it'll take time for our editors to get through all the submissions.  Even if your image was submitted on June 30, no matter how long the image is pending before it's published, you will be paid for it.

Weekly 100 image upload limit:  we are keeping our standard 100 image per week upload limit because we expect new contributors to sign up, which may add significantly to our submissions pool.  The weekly limit is necessary to ensure we aren't overwhelmed.  We want to take as many images as we can but it's also really important that we publish the images quickly so you can start making royalties. 

Selects:  to maximize your select rate and payout make sure to minimize similars and upload your best 100 images per week from a broad range of topics, locations, models.  We're looking for quality and variety.

Why is Veer doing this:  we are ramping up for a relaunch this summer, along with new marketing campaigns to reach a lot of new customers.  First impressions are important so naturally, we aim to impress new customers with an even bigger and better image collection.

Ryan is your point person - feel free to reach out to him with questions.

Thanks for the support!  Keep us busy!!

Aaron

Aaron,

What really concerns me about Corbis and other traditional stock agencies is that none of them actually 'get' what microstock (or should we just say 'stock'?) is all about today. They are still in the dark ages when it comes to the business of shifting serious volumes of licenses.

My impression is that they come breezing into microstock with their snobby, we-know-better-than-you-do attitudes to the 'amateur' contributors __ and then immediately fall flat on their faces. Snappytown, or whatever it was called, was a perfect example of a failure designed to happen. The entire site was positively insulting to contributors from the name onwards.

Senior people who have had careers in traditional stock keep assuming that there's a vast, untapped pool of customers out there who want a much more tightly-edited collection and who would be prepared to pay rather more to access it. Well I've got news __ there really isn't and they don't. That might run contrary to what your customers tell you in response to the surveys you probably send them. The truth is that the vast, vast majority of customers out there love microstock just the way it is. If anything they'd like it cheaper still.

The majority of customers don't really want a 'tightly edited collection', what they want is a massive choice of images and a search engine that is effective at sorting the wheat from the chaff and the dodgy keywording. As an example try doing a search on 'bacon sandwich' firstly at Corbis and Getty and then on the micro agencies. The last time I tried it I think I got 3 or 4 fairly average results on Getty and Corbis and then several hundred on the micros. I know which I'd prefer as a buyer.

There is an inherent tendency for traditional agencies to enthusiastically edit their collections and limit their contributors ideally to the point where choice for the customer is virtually eradicated. Unfortunately they bring that same attitude with them when they attempt to break into modern markets with lower price-points. The trad agencies just don't seem to appreciate that the whole game has changed, not just the prices.

If you want to sell stock in volume then you'll need to garner the support of the pro contributors first and that will not be helped if you keep rejecting tons of their best-selling work, which is what has been happening up to now and why I don't bother. You'd be far better off placing your trust in the track record of the well-proven contributor rather than the judgement of some junior editor who may well have never produced a successful stock image in their life.

Personally I'm still on the fence at whether to upload to Veer. I'm yet to be convinced that you have what it takes to be successful in today's market as it is more likely that most of the same mistakes will simply continue to be made.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: dirkr on May 06, 2010, 16:01
Of the active contributors here, how many of you were exceeding 50% acceptance rates on an ongoing basis?

Since I joined Veer MP in June 09:

909 accepted, 47 rejected.

Maybe it is different in my case than for many others because my pictures are not "typical" stock (no people, no isolations over white...) but mostly travel / wildlife.

Only a pity that I don't have hundreds more to upload... ::)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: AaronBooth on May 06, 2010, 16:15
gostwyck, you make intelligent points and sound like you'd be a perfect contributor to Veer.  I do hope you give Veer a try.  You'll see some big initiatives at Veer starting this summer to support a volume business.  We're just getting started.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Dook on May 06, 2010, 16:41
You are also too critical about keywords. I know you have your standards, but fixing keywords in your system is painful and time consuming. I have brought the keywords prepared for other micros and these are not good only for you. Can you, please, ease a little bit on keywords?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: lisafx on May 06, 2010, 17:57
I wish you the best of luck Aaron. 

I had my accepted images removed from VM several months back in preparation for exclusivity elsewhere (that I eventually chickened out of ;) )

If I should decide to give it another go, can I have my accepted images reactivated, or do I have to start uploading from scratch?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Suljo on May 06, 2010, 19:02
Where disappears Need Work option?
Now if image is rejected for bad keywords you must upload image again?!?
 ???
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: donding on May 06, 2010, 20:52
Thank you Aaron for addressing my questions. I do appreciate it.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: lisafx on May 07, 2010, 10:08

If I should decide to give it another go, can I have my accepted images reactivated, or do I have to start uploading from scratch?

Although I haven't heard from Veer directly on this, another contributor in the same situation was nice enough to site mail me.  Apparently all images are removed from closed accounts and we have to start again from scratch.

Having gone through many weeks, countless hours, and numerous rejections to get a thousand or so images online there before, I don't think I will be putting myself through that again unless they prove they can deliver the sales this time around.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: steheap on May 07, 2010, 11:28
I was going to refer this promotion to a friend of mine who currently doesn't upload to Veer. Does Veer have a referral program? I couldn't find anything on the site.

Steve
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: Reaktori on May 07, 2010, 13:04
ok. ok. Initial submission of 10 images posted. wish me luck.
Yay! All 10 approved.
Now for some upload limit banging -->
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 07, 2010, 14:26
I was going to refer this promotion to a friend of mine who currently doesn't upload to Veer. Does Veer have a referral program? I couldn't find anything on the site.

Steve

Hi Steve, we don't currently have any sort of referral program in place, but this is something we will be considering in the future.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 07, 2010, 14:33
I wish you the best of luck Aaron. 

I had my accepted images removed from VM several months back in preparation for exclusivity elsewhere (that I eventually chickened out of ;) )

If I should decide to give it another go, can I have my accepted images reactivated, or do I have to start uploading from scratch?

Hi Lisa,

Thanks for the question.  Recently we have a had a few contributors who chose to have their accounts deactivated instead of deleted- in that situation we would to simply 'reactivate' the portfolio and they can get started uploading images once again.  In your case it does appear that your previously submitted images had been permanently removed, after you requested that we do so.

-a note to all-  If you are a former contributor who had previously had a contributor account which you had removed or deactivated, please message me directly at [email protected] if you would like to begin submitting images once again.  Even if it's not possible to reactivate any previously submitted images, I should be able to add the Contributor 'role' back to your account, saving you the trouble of having to re-register.

Thanks
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Allsa on May 07, 2010, 15:18
I left early on because I decided that the mass rejections for an unproven site were simply unacceptable, leading me to conclude that the site was not worth a further investment of my time. Judging from the disappointing experiences of other contributors (as reported on this website), I learned that I had made the correct decision. Like Lisa, I'm leery of reopening my account and resuming uploading only to have the same experience repeated. Have you improved your review process? Veer's rejection rate was by far higher than any other website I have ever contributed to. How do you explain that? How do Veer's content needs differ from those of other micro agencies?

I wish you the best of luck Aaron. 

I had my accepted images removed from VM several months back in preparation for exclusivity elsewhere (that I eventually chickened out of ;) )

If I should decide to give it another go, can I have my accepted images reactivated, or do I have to start uploading from scratch?

Hi Lisa,

Thanks for the question.  Recently we have a had a few contributors who chose to have their accounts deactivated instead of deleted- in that situation we would to simply 'reactivate' the portfolio and they can get started uploading images once again.  In your case it does appear that your previously submitted images had been permanently removed, after you requested that we do so.

-a note to all-  If you are a former contributor who had previously had a contributor account which you had removed or deactivated, please message me directly at [email protected] if you would like to begin submitting images once again.  Even if it's not possible to reactivate any previously submitted images, I should be able to add the Contributor 'role' back to your account, saving you the trouble of having to re-register.

Thanks
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Albert Martin on May 07, 2010, 15:26
I left early on because I decided that the mass rejections for an unproven site were simply unacceptable, leading me to conclude that the site was not worth a further investment of my time. Judging from the disappointing experiences of other contributors (as reported on this website), I learned that I had made the correct decision. Like Lisa, I'm leery of reopening my account and resuming uploading only to have the same experience repeated. Have you improved your review process? Veer's rejection rate was by far higher than any other website I have ever contributed to. How do you explain that? How do Veer's content needs differ from those of other micro agencies?

I wish you the best of luck Aaron. 

I had my accepted images removed from VM several months back in preparation for exclusivity elsewhere (that I eventually chickened out of ;) )

If I should decide to give it another go, can I have my accepted images reactivated, or do I have to start uploading from scratch?

Hi Lisa,

Thanks for the question.  Recently we have a had a few contributors who chose to have their accounts deactivated instead of deleted- in that situation we would to simply 'reactivate' the portfolio and they can get started uploading images once again.  In your case it does appear that your previously submitted images had been permanently removed, after you requested that we do so.

-a note to all-  If you are a former contributor who had previously had a contributor account which you had removed or deactivated, please message me directly at [email protected] if you would like to begin submitting images once again.  Even if it's not possible to reactivate any previously submitted images, I should be able to add the Contributor 'role' back to your account, saving you the trouble of having to re-register.

Thanks

I think the difference comes due to that you are used to iStock...
Veer is different. Well, to be more precise: There is no way you can upload same images under the same criteria on any site - not only on Veer. But Veer has a bit more tight review process than iStock. Also, sometimes there was some bulk rejections. I hope that won't repeat.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: lisafx on May 07, 2010, 15:44
  In your case it does appear that your previously submitted images had been permanently removed, after you requested that we do so.

-a note to all-  If you are a former contributor who had previously had a contributor account which you had removed or deactivated, please message me directly at [email protected] if you would like to begin submitting images once again.  Even if it's not possible to reactivate any previously submitted images, I should be able to add the Contributor 'role' back to your account, saving you the trouble of having to re-register.


Thanks for the info Ryan.  This confirms what I had heard.  I also understand that previously approved contributors would have to go through the initial approval process again too.

Unfortunately, with the cumbersome upload process there and the difficulty of getting images approved, it is not much of an enticement to go through that whole process all over again. 

Have you improved your review process? Veer's rejection rate was by far higher than any other website I have ever contributed to. How do you explain that? How do Veer's content needs differ from those of other micro agencies?


...and have you streamlined the uploading process? 

These are the questions I would have too ^^, before seriously considering uploading to VM again.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 07, 2010, 16:03
Hi Lisa,

Thanks for the question.  Recently we have a had a few contributors who chose to have their accounts deactivated instead of deleted- in that situation we would to simply 'reactivate' the portfolio and they can get started uploading images once again.  In your case it does appear that your previously submitted images had been permanently removed, after you requested that we do so.

-a note to all-  If you are a former contributor who had previously had a contributor account which you had removed or deactivated, please message me directly at [email protected] if you would like to begin submitting images once again.  Even if it's not possible to reactivate any previously submitted images, I should be able to add the Contributor 'role' back to your account, saving you the trouble of having to re-register.

Thanks

Unfortunately, I got a different answer from support:

Quote
Cathleen,
 
You have worked with Ryan in the past but he is out today. I might be able to answer your question... it looks like your account was in fact cancelled, not just "turned off."  Unfortunately, your account is no longer accessible on our end.
 
The easiest thing is to start over, sorry to say.  Let us know if you run into any issues with getting a new account started or using your existing email address, etc.
 
Welcome back!
 
Jaina
Marketplace Team

So I started over with a new account. I have uploaded 10 images for review. It would be nice if you could just add the "contributor" role to my new account so that I can start mass uploading, instead of having to wait another week or so for contributor approval. Thanks!

Another question: I think I have a list of the images that were approved previously. Can I reupload those and bypass the approval process again?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: MikLav on May 07, 2010, 17:28
Of the active contributors here, how many of you were exceeding 50% acceptance rates on an ongoing basis? Don't get me wrong, I think this is a good deal. I'm just wondering what the odds are of actually getting $1.40 per image accepted.
I only uploaded a portion of my portfolio before this campaign. I had 363 pics accepted and 61 rejected. 85% acceptance rate isn't bad at all...
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: elvinstar on May 07, 2010, 17:42
I was wondering about the wording "Existing contributors"...

If someone creates an account and begins submitting images, are they eligible for the bonus for images submitted during the bonus period?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: UncleGene on May 07, 2010, 18:21
Nice programming :) Tried to register there, but...

Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.

Parameter name: index
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Xalanx on May 07, 2010, 18:36
Nice programming :) Tried to register there, but...

Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.

Parameter name: index

Why, you! You negative index that you are!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Xalanx on May 07, 2010, 18:40

Unfortunately, with the cumbersome upload process there and the difficulty of getting images approved, it is not much of an enticement to go through that whole process all over again. 


VMP might have glitches of their own, but the upload process is one of the easiest around. You just drop your files in FTP, then you only have to wait for the system to process and then couldn't be easier - no categories, bulk assign MR and in about 5 minutes you upload 100 photos. I just did yesterday.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: NitorPhoto on May 07, 2010, 19:26
You'd be far better off placing your trust in the track record of the well-proven contributor rather than the judgement of some junior editor who may well have never produced a successful stock image in their life.

If I would have to tell in one single sentence what is my biggest problem with all of the microstock sites I would quote this. This sentence above is a diamond!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 10, 2010, 06:25
I'm bumping this to the top in hopes that Ryan from Veer will read and recognize that I am a past contributor and make good on his word that he will just "turn the switch on" so I can start mass uploading photos instead of waiting for my first 10 to be approved.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 10, 2010, 15:49
I was wondering about the wording "Existing contributors"...

If someone creates an account and begins submitting images, are they eligible for the bonus for images submitted during the bonus period?


The promotion is available to existing as well as brand new contributors.  In fact, we have many new contributors signing up specifically in order to take advantage of the new promotion.

See our FAQ for more details:  http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/141 (http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/141)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 10, 2010, 15:56
I'm bumping this to the top in hopes that Ryan from Veer will read and recognize that I am a past contributor and make good on his word that he will just "turn the switch on" so I can start mass uploading photos instead of waiting for my first 10 to be approved.

As mentioned in my response to your email, we have marked your newly registered account as 'approved'. it will not be possible to switch out your your newly registered account with your previously deactivated account.

In response to your question further up on this thread-  We will not be able to 'automatically' approve any images you submit, even if they are images that had previously been in your account before you had requested that we delete your account and portfolio.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 10, 2010, 16:04
Nice programming :) Tried to register there, but...

Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.

Parameter name: index

Hi UncleGene-  sorry you got this error.  If you email me directly at [email protected] I should be able to sort it out so you'll be able to register.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 10, 2010, 17:20
Thanks Ryan. I will resubmit all.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: donding on May 10, 2010, 17:50
How long does the initial approval process take?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 10, 2010, 18:05
How long does the initial approval process take?

Generally, it should take about 5 days.  We're doing our best to keep up during the surge in submissions we've had since the start of the promotion
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Allsa on May 11, 2010, 08:10
Dash for Cash - nice gimmick, but where's the substance? Why haven't these questions (below) been answered?


Thanks for the info Ryan.  This confirms what I had heard.  I also understand that previously approved contributors would have to go through the initial approval process again too.

Unfortunately, with the cumbersome upload process there and the difficulty of getting images approved, it is not much of an enticement to go through that whole process all over again. 

Have you improved your review process? Veer's rejection rate was by far higher than any other website I have ever contributed to. How do you explain that? How do Veer's content needs differ from those of other micro agencies?


...and have you streamlined the uploading process? 

These are the questions I would have too ^^, before seriously considering uploading to VM again.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 11, 2010, 12:04
Dash for Cash - nice gimmick, but where's the substance? Why haven't these questions (below) been answered?


Thanks for the info Ryan.  This confirms what I had heard.  I also understand that previously approved contributors would have to go through the initial approval process again too.

Unfortunately, with the cumbersome upload process there and the difficulty of getting images approved, it is not much of an enticement to go through that whole process all over again. 

Have you improved your review process? Veer's rejection rate was by far higher than any other website I have ever contributed to. How do you explain that? How do Veer's content needs differ from those of other micro agencies?


...and have you streamlined the uploading process? 

These are the questions I would have too ^^, before seriously considering uploading to VM again.


Sorry Allsa, I try to respond to many questions on here if I can, but I do tend to miss some.  The best way to quickly get an answer is to email directly at [email protected].

It's hard for me to comment not knowing your specific experience with us, but I will say that like most other microstock agencies, we value high quality, commercially relevant photography and illustration, and getting the best images on our site is always our first priority. 

We believe that our uploading and editing system is quite efficient and user friendly, and I would of course be available to walk you through any of the steps if you encounter any difficulties once you sign-up.

Thanks
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Allsa on May 11, 2010, 13:53
Dash for Cash - nice gimmick, but where's the substance? Why haven't these questions (below) been answered?


Thanks for the info Ryan.  This confirms what I had heard.  I also understand that previously approved contributors would have to go through the initial approval process again too.

Unfortunately, with the cumbersome upload process there and the difficulty of getting images approved, it is not much of an enticement to go through that whole process all over again. 

Have you improved your review process? Veer's rejection rate was by far higher than any other website I have ever contributed to. How do you explain that? How do Veer's content needs differ from those of other micro agencies?


...and have you streamlined the uploading process? 

These are the questions I would have too ^^, before seriously considering uploading to VM again.



It's hard for me to comment not knowing your specific experience with us, but I will say that like most other microstock agencies, we value high quality, commercially relevant photography and illustration, and getting the best images on our site is always our first priority. 

Thanks

This still doesn't explain why your rejection rate is far higher than any other micro I contribute to, and that includes iStock, the most rigorous, demanding micro in the business. Streamlining the upload process doesn't save us much time, when most submissions end up getting rejected anyway. Since Veer's rejection rate is far higher than all of the successful micros (this is borne out by complaints from many other contributors, not just me), your needs must differ substantially from the rest. Saying you want high quality, commercially relevant photography and illustration is a pretty generic statement, since all micros make the same claim. It doesn't tell me anything specific about why Veer's rejection rate is by far the highest in the business. This from a new micro with no proven track record! If you don't want certain types of content, you should state that clearly, so we don't waste time uploading imagery that Veer doesn't want in the first place.

The only reason Veer has made it this far is because of the Corbis name, and now this new Dash for Cash program.These things can't keep you going forever, people will become disillusioned, as I have. Where are the downloads? We need something of substance! Please show us some respect and have a little consideration for the value of our time.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ljupco on May 12, 2010, 04:09
I have just had my initial 10 approved and in order to decide whether to start the upload process, I need answers to couple of questions from Ryan or anyone else from Veer:

1. I filled in the Tax Form and after completion it said that it looks that I'm going to be taxed 30% cause I live in a non-treaty country. That's fine but am I going to be taxed only on sales coming from US (as it is at Shutterstock) or Veer will tax me on all my sales ?

Also, what about the Dash for Cash program ? Is Veer going to put a tax of 30% on that money as well ?

2. I see my initial 10 approved but I don't see any credits or earnings on my account, are you going to add them up after the Dash for Cash campaign ends or I'm not looking at the right place ?

3. I see a limit of 100 uploads per week and by then end of June there are 6-7 weeks left, does this means that I can't upload more than 700 photos ?

In my opinion, If you want quality images and consistent contributors, raise the upload limit and be more selective in the process of approving images. Also tax the way Shutterstock does, only on sales coming from US.

I see little incentive if I can only upload 700 images. When Fotolia did a similar campaign back in the days when it was a start-up, they didn't have any upload limits and it seems it worked for them quite well.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 12, 2010, 15:10
I have just had my initial 10 approved and in order to decide whether to start the upload process, I need answers to couple of questions from Ryan or anyone else from Veer:

1. I filled in the Tax Form and after completion it said that it looks that I'm going to be taxed 30% cause I live in a non-treaty country. That's fine but am I going to be taxed only on sales coming from US (as it is at Shutterstock) or Veer will tax me on all my sales ?

Also, what about the Dash for Cash program ? Is Veer going to put a tax of 30% on that money as well ?

2. I see my initial 10 approved but I don't see any credits or earnings on my account, are you going to add them up after the Dash for Cash campaign ends or I'm not looking at the right place ?

3. I see a limit of 100 uploads per week and by then end of June there are 6-7 weeks left, does this means that I can't upload more than 700 photos ?

In my opinion, If you want quality images and consistent contributors, raise the upload limit and be more selective in the process of approving images. Also tax the way Shutterstock does, only on sales coming from US.

I see little incentive if I can only upload 700 images. When Fotolia did a similar campaign back in the days when it was a start-up, they didn't have any upload limits and it seems it worked for them quite well.


1. From our FAQ on withholding taxes (http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/96 (http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/96)):
If you are not a resident of a treaty country, we will deduct a 30% withholding tax on all payments of U.S. source royalties.  Royalties resulting from licensing to customers outside the US will be considered non-US source income and not subject to US withholding tax.  Money for the Dash For Cash promotion is paid out by Corbis, which is US based, and so will be taxed as such.

2. Dash For Cash earnings will be tallied after the contest is completed and will be displayed on your Dashboard page before September 15th.

3. That is correct, you are limited to submitting 100 images per week.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: PixelBitch on May 12, 2010, 16:10
Veer existed in their own right for quite a few years before Corbis came along and bought them...to suggest that they do not know what they are doing is profoundly ignorant. It is the micros that are new, and have come along and undercut on pricing and greatly contributed to it being so tough to make a living shooting stock these days. Perhaps Veer are wanting to establish a viable microstock collection with out descending to the level of those sites that take all comers just for the numbers.

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This still doesn't explain why your rejection rate is far higher than any other micro I contribute to, and that includes iStock, the most rigorous, demanding micro in the business. Streamlining the upload process doesn't save us much time, when most submissions end up getting rejected anyway. Since Veer's rejection rate is far higher than all of the successful micros (this is borne out by complaints from many other contributors, not just me), your needs must differ substantially from the rest. Saying you want high quality, commercially relevant photography and illustration is a pretty generic statement, since all micros make the same claim. It doesn't tell me anything specific about why Veer's rejection rate is by far the highest in the business. This from a new micro with no proven track record! If you don't want certain types of content, you should state that clearly, so we don't waste time uploading imagery that Veer doesn't want in the first place.

The only reason Veer has made it this far is because of the Corbis name, and now this new Dash for Cash program.These things can't keep you going forever, people will become disillusioned, as I have. Where are the downloads? We need something of substance! Please show us some respect and have a little consideration for the value of our time.
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Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Albert Martin on May 12, 2010, 16:54
Veer existed in their own right for quite a few years before Corbis came along and bought them...to suggest that they do not know what they are doing is profoundly ignorant. It is the micros that are new, and have come along and undercut on pricing and greatly contributed to it being so tough to make a living shooting stock these days. Perhaps Veer are wanting to establish a viable microstock collection with out descending to the level of those sites that take all comers just for the numbers.


This still doesn't explain why your rejection rate is far higher than any other micro I contribute to, and that includes iStock, the most rigorous, demanding micro in the business. Streamlining the upload process doesn't save us much time, when most submissions end up getting rejected anyway. Since Veer's rejection rate is far higher than all of the successful micros (this is borne out by complaints from many other contributors, not just me), your needs must differ substantially from the rest. Saying you want high quality, commercially relevant photography and illustration is a pretty generic statement, since all micros make the same claim. It doesn't tell me anything specific about why Veer's rejection rate is by far the highest in the business. This from a new micro with no proven track record! If you don't want certain types of content, you should state that clearly, so we don't waste time uploading imagery that Veer doesn't want in the first place.

The only reason Veer has made it this far is because of the Corbis name, and now this new Dash for Cash program.These things can't keep you going forever, people will become disillusioned, as I have. Where are the downloads? We need something of substance! Please show us some respect and have a little consideration for the value of our time.
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Just to add a bit of difference:

iStock accepts crappy images... No further comment except Veer doesn't allow that to happen!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Allsa on May 12, 2010, 17:52
Veer existed in their own right for quite a few years before Corbis came along and bought them...to suggest that they do not know what they are doing is profoundly ignorant.

They are brand new to Microstock, true? BTW, you could have made your point without the profoundly rude comment.

It is the micros that are new, and have come along and undercut on pricing and greatly contributed to it being so tough to make a living shooting stock these days. Perhaps Veer are wanting to establish a viable microstock collection with out descending to the level of those sites that take all comers just for the numbers.

If that is true I have no problem with it. I asked how Veer's approach is different from other micros, since their rejection rate is much higher than even the strictest agencies, and I never received an answer to this question. I started out very enthusiastic about Veer's potential, so I applied and was accepted. With my first two batches most submissions were accepted. Encouraged, I uploaded more, and shocked to discover that at least 80% of those were rejected. The same type and quality, yet suddenly a mass rejection? I thought that perhaps I just hit a bad inspector, so I checked the forum to see if the problem was confined to just me. I discovered that mass rejections were a very common complaint, and some of the complainers were extremely successful, doing top quality work. I came to the perfectly reasonable conclusion that they didn't know what they were doing in regards to the microstock model. Just my opinion, and I have a right to express it, which I did. I have yet to hear anything that conflicts with that assumption.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Phillip Minnis on May 12, 2010, 18:39
Just wondering........

Has anyone with images submitted either on or after the 5th of May had them inspected as yet?   

I submitted 100 on the 5th, and another 100 yesterday.   As yet, I haven't had any inspected as yet.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Eco on May 13, 2010, 01:33
Corbis tried to enter the MicroStock market with SnapVillage. We all know that SV was a miserable failure - that is now history. Then they decided to start all over with Veer Marketplace - this time to "do it right". I my opinion they have learned very little from the SV experiment. 

While it is not unexpected that they would like to differentiate themselves from other MS sites, there are a few basic principles of the MS-model that cannot be changed or avoided. To be successful any MS site needs a constant supply of new images, and in order to achieve this you must keep contributors motivated to submit their images. Here they failed again, and the main reason being irrational rejections (with low sales). I think Veer MP is being run by people (with good intentions) who still cannot get to grips with the MS-model. Why pay contributors now to upload? The Corbis (and Veer) name was enough to attract most of the top microstock artist right from the beginning. Why did they lost motivation and stopped uploading? I predict that unless they change their whole approach to their review process they will get a large number of images from this promotion and then it will go back to stagnation.  I have stopped uploading a long time ago. I will participate in this promotion, but unless there are positive changes I will most probably stop again after this promotion. 
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: qwerty on May 13, 2010, 03:20
Corbis tried to enter the MicroStock market with SnapVillage. We all know that SV was a miserable failure - that is now history. Then they decided to start all over with Veer Marketplace - this time to "do it right". I my opinion they have learned very little from the SV experiment. 


and the worst thing is that I sold more on Snapvillage then Veer
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: eppic on May 13, 2010, 05:10
Maybe its just a fluke I dont know but my acceptance ratio here historically has been pretty good.  319 images online and 126 rejected.  For me that's fairly consistent with SS and DT.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: qwerty on May 13, 2010, 05:32
Maybe its just a fluke I dont know but my acceptance ratio here historically has been pretty good.  319 images online and 126 rejected.  For me that's fairly consistent with SS and DT.

Initially my acceptance rate there was pretty bad, but random. Some whole batches going through then 90% of the next batch rejected. I slowed uploading. In the last 2 months or so they had been approving alot more, probably because number of photos being submitted had gone down they were starting to realise that they needed to let more through our they'd end up with no new photos.

I hope that this initiative and advertising gets veer on track and starts to replace some of the lost income from StockXpert.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: gostwyck on May 13, 2010, 05:48
Veer existed in their own right for quite a few years before Corbis came along and bought them...to suggest that they do not know what they are doing is profoundly ignorant. It is the micros that are new, and have come along and undercut on pricing and greatly contributed to it being so tough to make a living shooting stock these days. Perhaps Veer are wanting to establish a viable microstock collection with out descending to the level of those sites that take all comers just for the numbers.

This re-launch of Veer will effectively be Corbis's 3rd attempt to break into the micro market. The first two attempts were abject failures. Oh, and btw, Corbis themselves have lost money every year that they have been in business. So they can't sell expensive images (at a profit) and so far they can't sell cheap images either. To suggest on that track record that they do know what they are doing ... is profoundly ignorant.
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: cathyslife on May 17, 2010, 06:40

Hi everyone, thanks for the early feedback.  We’ll be posting more information about the Veer Dash for Cash program in the Veer Marketplace forum Wednesday morning and we’ll be available to respond to questions you may have.  It’s going to be great!

The Veer Marketplace forum...can someone tell me how to get there from the contributor home page? I must be blind because I can't find a link.

I wanted to find info on the 100 per week image upload max. When does the 100 flip over to 0? On Monday morning? Or when exactly.

ETA: Never mind the question about the forum...it's called a group...I found the link on the Contributor page under Contact on the right side. I still have the question about when the upload limit changes back to zero every week.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Forgiss on May 19, 2010, 03:13
Is it just me... or is the dash for cash more like a crawl? reviews just do not seem to be happening at any kind of pace?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: sharpshot on May 19, 2010, 03:24
They are going to be swamped with images and reviews will take a long time.  It doesn't bother me, I just upload and forget about it.  They accepted most of my last batch, if they rushed the reviews, I am sure the reviewers would just start hitting the rejection button.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Forgiss on May 19, 2010, 03:27
... It is the micros that are new, and have come along and undercut on pricing and greatly contributed to it being so tough to make a living shooting stock these days. Perhaps Veer are wanting to establish a viable microstock collection with out descending to the level of those sites that take all comers just for the numbers...

I read these statements and am always amazed at the absolute lack of thought that goes into them.

What protected traditional stock was "barrier of entry" (both from the agency side, and the cost of technology) that barrier was lowered drastically as technology made it possible for the buyer to sidestep expensive RM images completely for day-to-day functionality.

It's wouldn't surprise me if the OP made that statement from their iphone filled with happily purchased $1 apps

Secondly. The old model was a lock-in model... You buy from XYZ company because you allready invested a few thousand Dollars into getting their catalogues and search disks shipped to you. That doesn't fly anymore, Getty's new site quotes 41% of images buyers do their search through Google... So to survive, you are either a niche market site (i.e. all Medical, all the time) or you have everything that passes a technical spec, and improve your search system to allow a buyer/designer to find what they want, exactly.

Even if microstock didn't exist... do you really think that the old model would survive with Flikr and Deviant-art, etc images available to a designer?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash - Get paid to upload your photos.
Post by: FD on May 19, 2010, 03:40
I didn't said my exact figure... But it is larger than 400 ;-)
That and the absence of any of your portfolio links makes your info worthless. Allow me to ploink you.
Title: Re: Wow...great veer contributor initiative, anyone else got the email?
Post by: leaf on May 19, 2010, 03:58


I wanted to find info on the 100 per week image upload max. When does the 100 flip over to 0? On Monday morning? Or when exactly.


I think it updates 7 days after you uploaded your previous images.  I uploaded 10 images on a monday then 90 images on a wednesday.  The following monday I have 10 slots available, then on wednesday I have another 90 slots opened up.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: eppic on May 19, 2010, 05:21
Yes that was my findings as well leaf.  It seems to be exactly 7 days from your given block of uploaded images.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 19, 2010, 05:37
Thanks, Leaf and eppic.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: PixelBitch on May 19, 2010, 13:45
I confess to not being an iTard or owning an iPhone full of cheap apps...sorry!

As much as I need to try and like micro as it is here to stay and us old RM boys need to come to terms with it and approach it in a professional manner...I am still a firm believer in RM and focus the majority of my efforts there...that belief was confirmed this morning when I saw an RM sale through Getty of an image shot 12 years ago for a gross sales amount over 23K...so clients are still willing to pay good money for the right image for their needs. How many images would one need on micro for how long a time to see such a return on their efforts? Guess where I'm submitting my next few months worth of images?????

Enough said.



... It is the micros that are new, and have come along and undercut on pricing and greatly contributed to it being so tough to make a living shooting stock these days. Perhaps Veer are wanting to establish a viable microstock collection with out descending to the level of those sites that take all comers just for the numbers...

I read these statements and am always amazed at the absolute lack of thought that goes into them.

What protected traditional stock was "barrier of entry" (both from the agency side, and the cost of technology) that barrier was lowered drastically as technology made it possible for the buyer to sidestep expensive RM images completely for day-to-day functionality.

It's wouldn't surprise me if the OP made that statement from their iphone filled with happily purchased $1 apps

Secondly. The old model was a lock-in model... You buy from XYZ company because you allready invested a few thousand Dollars into getting their catalogues and search disks shipped to you. That doesn't fly anymore, Getty's new site quotes 41% of images buyers do their search through Google... So to survive, you are either a niche market site (i.e. all Medical, all the time) or you have everything that passes a technical spec, and improve your search system to allow a buyer/designer to find what they want, exactly.

Even if microstock didn't exist... do you really think that the old model would survive with Flikr and Deviant-art, etc images available to a designer?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Forgiss on May 19, 2010, 13:55
@PB:

Please don't get me wrong... I am not Dissing RM at all. I think RM definitely has a place, and not all images are destined for microstock, but there are images that has no place for $23k sales...

By the way, congrats on the sales... I hope it sold some more in the 12 years before today.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: PixelBitch on May 19, 2010, 14:07
Thanks! I always like to hear the views of others...

Yes, those productions from way back then have done very well...and still earn every month.

There are images on each sales platform that may well be better placed on the other if you know what I mean...but we must not simply give our work away. This was recently brought home to me after an excited call from one of my models after her portrait appeared in a Match.com TV commercial...and I got a measly 28 dollars from Shutterstock...around 3 years back I got a similar RM sale of a portrait that was pretty similar and netted over 3K.

It's tough to know where to place our work!

@PB:

Please don't get me wrong... I am not Dissing RM at all. I think RM definitely has a place, and not all images are destined for microstock, but there are images that has no place for $23k sales...

By the way, congrats on the sales... I hope it sold some more in the 12 years before today.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on May 19, 2010, 14:27
pb,

after a sale like that (sorry, i'm drooling), don't you feel you should concentrate your work in rm and not bother with microstock anymore? obviously this experiment has failed for you rm guys.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on May 19, 2010, 14:34
Is it just me... or is the dash for cash more like a crawl? reviews just do not seem to be happening at any kind of pace?

i've just had my 1st 71 reviewed, 44 approved. a lot of property release rejections.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: PixelBitch on May 19, 2010, 14:42
I wish I had more like that...they don't come along very often unfortunately.

Each sales model has it's market and if one gets it right micro can be lucrative too...there are several artists who do well.

I'll certainly slow down on micro submissions for a while...but to ignore it would be silly as it is a growing market.


pb,

after a sale like that (sorry, i'm drooling), don't you feel you should concentrate your work in rm and not bother with microstock anymore? obviously this experiment has failed for you rm guys.
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Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: eppic on May 21, 2010, 00:53
Oh I should also add that you can upload more than your limit of 100 and have them sitting in the "new" section of your workspace. 
That way when the week is up, you can submit the images that you already have uploaded and waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Forgiss on May 21, 2010, 01:30
Oh I should also add that you can upload more than your limit of 100 and have them sitting in the "new" section of your workspace. 
That way when the week is up, you can submit the images that you already have uploaded and waiting in the wings.

...all well and good... I am doing that allready, hoping they don't have a timelimit on processing those files like some other libraries that delete them after 30 days, 6weeks or 7 weeks
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ErickN on May 21, 2010, 07:33
Oh I should also add that you can upload more than your limit of 100 and have them sitting in the "new" section of your workspace.  
That way when the week is up, you can submit the images that you already have uploaded and waiting in the wings.

...all well and good... I am doing that allready, hoping they don't have a timelimit on processing those files like some other libraries that delete them after 30 days, 6weeks or 7 weeks

You can even transfer the newly uploaded files to the edit section and start to "disambiguate" them (I hate that word...;o) and leave them there until you can submit them.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Artemis on May 21, 2010, 08:09
I just had my first batch from may 6th reviewed as well; everything accepted :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Reaktori on May 21, 2010, 08:48
I just had my first batch from may 6th reviewed as well; everything accepted :)
Congrats.
I sent my first batch may 7th. Thrill rises ;)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on May 21, 2010, 12:54
have people checked their 'member' page lately, like today? is your entire portfolio missing? does anyone know if veer staff actually choose the four photos that appear on your member page or is it computer generated?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 21, 2010, 14:49
have people checked their 'member' page lately, like today? is your entire portfolio missing? does anyone know if veer staff actually choose the four photos that appear on your member page or is it computer generated?

I just checked mine, all looks ok. When I click the "See All" button to the right of Images for Sale, I see all my photos for sale. Since I didn't choose the four that show up underneath that, I just presumed it was computer generated.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 21, 2010, 14:58
have people checked their 'member' page lately, like today? is your entire portfolio missing? does anyone know if veer staff actually choose the four photos that appear on your member page or is it computer generated?

The Member Page displays a few of your latest submissions to the site, you aren't able to choose which ones at the moment. 

It is odd that yours would suddenly disappear-shoot an email over to [email protected] and I can probably sort it out.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on May 21, 2010, 15:08

The Member Page displays a few of your latest submissions to the site, you aren't able to choose which ones at the moment. 

It is odd that yours would suddenly disappear-shoot an email over to [email protected] and I can probably sort it out.

well, compliments to the computer for choosing my best photos.  :) my port returned so i guess all's well.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: pling on May 24, 2010, 03:04
hi i have some images approved but i didn't see any cash increase in my earning, i don't have time to go through the forum to find out these answer can someone just let me know how they will pay us for the approved image? thanks
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: FD on May 24, 2010, 03:49
i don't have time to go through the forum to find out these answer can someone just let me know how they will pay us for the approved image?

September 15.

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Images submitted during the Veer® Dash for Cash Promotion will be reviewed, available for sale and contributors will be notified of number of accepted images by the end of August 2010. Incentive payments will be sent out by September 15, 2010. Images must be available for sale on Veer at time of incentive payment to receive payment.


http://www.veer.com/ideas/dashforcash/ (http://www.veer.com/ideas/dashforcash/)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: pling on May 24, 2010, 06:23
thank you!

i don't have time to go through the forum to find out these answer can someone just let me know how they will pay us for the approved image?

September 15.

Quote
Images submitted during the Veer® Dash for Cash Promotion will be reviewed, available for sale and contributors will be notified of number of accepted images by the end of August 2010. Incentive payments will be sent out by September 15, 2010. Images must be available for sale on Veer at time of incentive payment to receive payment.


[url]http://www.veer.com/ideas/dashforcash/[/url] ([url]http://www.veer.com/ideas/dashforcash/[/url])
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: FD on May 24, 2010, 06:52
thank you!
Also don't forget you can make trillions of dollars on Veer. Yes trillions! I kid you not.
Quote
Did we mention that you can make trillions of dollars by selling your images on Veer Marketplace? That number might be a bit high, but once your images are up on the web site, the sky’s the limit.

http://contributor.veer.com/ (http://contributor.veer.com/)  ;D
(I'm very modest. A couple of millions to start will do).
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: luissantos84 on May 24, 2010, 18:41
Dash for Cash???.. yeah!

I was with 50% approval ratio...

Last batch reviewed (95 photos) only 5 entered.. :)

I am with around 1100 for now, I guess 30 on Dash 
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Phillip Minnis on May 25, 2010, 05:22
I submitted 100 images on the day this promotion started, and they were inspected one week later....on the 5th of May.  On that same day, I submitted another 100 images. 

On the 17th of May, I submitted another 100 images.  I now have 200 images in the queue waiting to be inspected.  This means that if the 100 images that I submitted on the 5th of May,  haven't been inspected by tomorrow, they will have been in the queue for two weeks. 

I'm in no way complaining.....I'm sure the inspectors have been inundated with new images.......I'm just wondering if other people have images that have been in the 'waiting for inspection' queue for two weeks.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 25, 2010, 06:14
...I'm in no way complaining.....I'm sure the inspectors have been inundated with new images.......I'm just wondering if other people have images that have been in the 'waiting for inspection' queue for two weeks.

I submitted my first batch of 100 on May 11th and 12th and they are still in the Q. I submitted another 90 the following week, so I have a total of 190 sitting in the q to be inspected. I don't want to submit any more until I see what the acceptance rate is going to be, whether old model releases are going to be rejected, etc.

Yes, I believe they must be inundated. But wouldn't they have geared up a little for that?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Phillip Minnis on May 25, 2010, 06:25


I submitted my first batch of 100 on May 11th and 12th and they are still in the Q. I submitted another 90 the following week, so I have a total of 190 sitting in the q to be inspected. I don't want to submit any more until I see what the acceptance rate is going to be, whether old model releases are going to be rejected, etc.

Yes, I believe they must be inundated. But wouldn't they have geared up a little for that?
[/quote]

My acceptance rate was nearly 70% for the first batch.  :)

I'm just hoping that I can achieve that acceptance rate from each batch.  If so, I'll get between 500 and 600 images accepted during the promotion.  That would be a nice little earner......at $1.40 each! :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 25, 2010, 15:29
My acceptance rate was nearly 70% for the first batch.  :)

I'm just hoping that I can achieve that acceptance rate from each batch.  If so, I'll get between 500 and 600 images accepted during the promotion.  That would be a nice little earner......at $1.40 each! :)

That's great! I hope I get the same acceptance results as you. My first 100 were actually images that HAD been accepted the first time I uploaded to Veer (I closed my account a few months later for lack of sales). I am very interested in seeing if they get accepted the second time around.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Reaktori on May 26, 2010, 00:10
97,06% accepted so far.

edit:
97,77% accepted atm.
they have to have low standards. :D
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 27, 2010, 09:29
I am still waiting for ANY of my first 190 images to be reviewed. Started uploading May 11.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: luissantos84 on May 27, 2010, 10:17
97,06% accepted so far.

edit:
97,77% accepted atm.
they have to have low standards. :D

nice job :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: donding on May 27, 2010, 10:26
I am still waiting for ANY of my first 190 images to be reviewed. Started uploading May 11.

Same here...May 11...still waiting also
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: gubh83 on May 27, 2010, 11:00
Is there a way to see which images are on Dash for Cash? Like a special session or we must check the dates they were approved manually?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 27, 2010, 12:36
Is there a way to see which images are on Dash for Cash? Like a special session or we must check the dates they were approved manually?

All images uploaded between May 5th and end of June are automatically considered for Dash for Cash. At least that's the way I understand it.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: gubh83 on May 27, 2010, 12:40
Is there a way to see which images are on Dash for Cash? Like a special session or we must check the dates they were approved manually?

All images uploaded between May 5th and end of June are automatically considered for Dash for Cash. At least that's the way I understand it.

Uploaded or sent to approval or approved? Kinda confusing...
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on May 27, 2010, 12:56
gubh83,

any images submitted from may 5 to jun 30 are considered (if approved).

by the way, although i'v had about 53 approved so far for about a week, none are actually showing up in my port. will they be witheld till after the promotion?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 27, 2010, 13:31
gubh83,

any images submitted from may 5 to jun 30 are considered (if approved).

by the way, although i'v had about 53 approved so far for about a week, none are actually showing up in my port. will they be witheld till after the promotion?

No, if they have been approved they should show up in your port and be for sale. If they are not there, you might want to send an email to support.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on May 27, 2010, 13:47
No, if they have been approved they should show up in your port and be for sale. If they are not there, you might want to send an email to support.

thanx!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Eco on May 27, 2010, 14:55
I also started to upload again to Veer since the 5th. Thus far I have 155 images accepted and only 5 rejected. So far so good. Just now I received an e-mail: "Weekly Update: Your Veer Dash for Cash earnings so far", stating that I have 50 photos reviewed and accepted to date, which earned me $35.00 ???. Anyone else received an update with numbers that does not correspond with your actual acceptances?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Newsfocus1 on May 27, 2010, 16:14
More a Race to Rejection for me. First 100 reviewed yesterday: 19 accepted! Out -Croatian landscapes, seascapes, Krka waterfalls. In -a bunch of animal shots taken at a local animal park (meerkats, gorilla, ostrich etc). Oh, and some Tamworth pigs at another local animal place. Just my luck to get the animal loving, agrophobic reviewer again ;D I'm off to a Greek island soon, so cue lots of donkey and goat shots! Regards, David.

www.shootingstock.blogspot.com (http://www.shootingstock.blogspot.com)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: GrantP on May 27, 2010, 18:32
I also started to upload again to Veer since the 5th. Thus far I have 155 images accepted and only 5 rejected. So far so good. Just now I received an e-mail: "Weekly Update: Your Veer Dash for Cash earnings so far", stating that I have 50 photos reviewed and accepted to date, which earned me $35.00 ???. Anyone else received an update with numbers that does not correspond with your actual acceptances?

We are constantly editing and approving images, so the discrepancy most likely stems from the update data having been pulled and compiled a few days before the message went out.

I'm sure that describes what happened here, but if you shoot me an email at [email protected] I'd be happy to take a look at your account to make sure.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: FD on May 27, 2010, 19:26
We are constantly editing and approving images, so the discrepancy most likely stems from the update data having been pulled and compiled a few days before the message went out.
I have the same observation as Eco, but I totally trust Veer in this (more than some other agencies). Another question is the Twitter sweep-stake. I followed the instructions, but how do I know my Tweet will be honored? Does it have to stay on top till the end of June, or can we make more tweets?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 28, 2010, 13:42
Well, so far today I have had 11 images reviewed and 11 images rejected. The funny thing is, 8 of them were approved the first time around. I can see that this is going to be a waste of my time, again. I don't know why I even bothered.  :(
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: louoates on May 28, 2010, 14:40
Well, so far today I have had 11 images reviewed and 11 images rejected. The funny thing is, 8 of them were approved the first time around. I can see that this is going to be a waste of my time, again. I don't know why I even bothered.  :(

I've just had 17 out of 17 approved. But so what? My calculation this year is a total return of about $2/month on Veer with 294 of my best. For me V continues to be a waste of my time also. No more uploads until traffic and sales there improve.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: lisafx on May 28, 2010, 17:29
Well, so far today I have had 11 images reviewed and 11 images rejected. The funny thing is, 8 of them were approved the first time around. I can see that this is going to be a waste of my time, again. I don't know why I even bothered.  :(


I've just had 17 out of 17 approved. But so what? My calculation this year is a total return of about $2/month on Veer with 294 of my best. For me V continues to be a waste of my time also. No more uploads until traffic and sales there improve.

Thanks for posting guys.  I was mildly tempted by the Dash for Cash and the hopes that Veer had learned something from the apparent failure of last year's big VM launch, and the similar failure of Snapvillage. 

But it appears that they are no more savvy about microstock content and no more able to deliver sales than ever.  Glad I didn't bother.  Fool me once.....
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: franky242 on May 28, 2010, 17:39
Just a few minutes ago my first batch of images was approved - I uploadeded them right after Veer started their campaign, so 2 weeks for approval seem to be common. The acceptance rate in my case is about 65% which is exceptional good for me being a beginner still. So far so good, let´s hope the good news continue.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on May 28, 2010, 21:24
Interestingly when SV first launched and for the longest time you could get 100% of images accepted. I guess they were building at the time.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: elvinstar on May 28, 2010, 23:04
I seem to being doing fairly well there. I have a 70.3% acceptance ratio. Though keep in mind that is from all the photos ever uploaded (not just during dash for cash). I am not too far from first payout.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Randomway on May 29, 2010, 08:46
On the vector side, things are going well. My first batch was over 90% on acceptance. I'll see if that percentage will hold with the second.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Dook on May 29, 2010, 08:52
I have 40 accepted by now .
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Phillip Minnis on May 30, 2010, 00:00
The day the promotion started, I started submitting images.  One week later, the first batch were inspected, and 79 were accepted on to the site.  Last week I, too, received the earnings update stating that I had 77 images approved, and that had earned me $53.90.  I'm happy with that, however, I don't quite know why I'm only being paid for 77 when 79 were approved. :)  I guess it will all 'turn out in the wash'. :)

Since then, I now have another 328 images awaiting inspection.  Over 100 of these have now been waiting to be inspected for two and a half weeks.  I'm patient.  Veer has pledged to pay for all images that are accepted between the 5th of May and the 30th of June.  So, even if none of my images are inspected until July, I still know that I'll be paid for the accepted ones.

I've worked out that I'll be able to submit another 500 images between now and the end of the promotion.  That means I will have uploaded around 900 images during the promotion.  Due to the fact that I already had 428 images approved prior to the promotion, there's a strong possibility, provided I continue to achieve my current success rate of a bit over 70%, that I'll receive $1.40 for each image accepted during the promotion.  Here's hoping!!!! :)

I'll let you know how I go. :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on May 30, 2010, 08:24
Well, so far today I have had 11 images reviewed and 11 images rejected. The funny thing is, 8 of them were approved the first time around. I can see that this is going to be a waste of my time, again. I don't know why I even bothered.  :(

Well, my initial report (above) was very discouraging, but it appears that I now have 88 approved and 12 rejected. I am hoping it continues at that rate.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Phillip Minnis on June 02, 2010, 07:22
How are the inspections going? 

I've now got 434 images awaiting inspection, that I've uploaded over the past four weeks.

Just wondering if others are sharing the same experience.......
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: FD on June 02, 2010, 07:43
Well, my initial report (above) was very discouraging, but it appears that I now have 88 approved and 12 rejected.
I told you so.  ;)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: njnightsky on June 02, 2010, 09:59
How are the inspections going? 

I've now got 434 images awaiting inspection, that I've uploaded over the past four weeks.

Just wondering if others are sharing the same experience.......

I had 300 pending they approved 99 out of a 100 yesterday down to 200 pending
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: flashon on June 02, 2010, 10:23
How are the inspections going? 

I've now got 434 images awaiting inspection, that I've uploaded over the past four weeks.

Just wondering if others are sharing the same experience.......

400 submitted and 100 approved, 300 waiting so far so good... but will wait to see how the sales go before porting the rest of all my 1500ish photos after the dash...
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on June 02, 2010, 12:59
Well, my initial report (above) was very discouraging, but it appears that I now have 88 approved and 12 rejected.
I told you so.  ;)

 :P

Edit: I still have 200 in the q for review.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: UncleGene on June 05, 2010, 11:09
10 approved, 390 waiting
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Phillip Minnis on June 12, 2010, 19:39
OK, an update.......... :)

On the day the promotion started, I commenced uploading batches of 100 each week.  Since that time, I've had three batches inspected, and out of those three batches I've had 245 approved.  I'm happy with that.  I now have another three batches awaiting inspection. 

Between now and the end of the promotion, I'll be able to upload another three batches of 100. 

I'm hoping to get between 600 and 700 images approved during the promotion.

The good news is that I've had two batches inspected in the last four days, so the inspection process seems to have cranked up a notch. :)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on June 12, 2010, 20:19
The good news is that I've had two batches inspected in the last four days, so the inspection process seems to have cranked up a notch. :)

Hasn't cranked up for me yet. But then again, I'm a little perturbed about their latest announcement.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: microstockphoto.co.uk on June 13, 2010, 01:29
But then again, I'm a little perturbed about their latest announcement.

It's not a concern to me as I usually reach a payout every 3 months or so but... if they drop the end of year payment, they should really considering lowering the minimum payout aumount. Otherwise a lot of submitters will fell discouraged.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Fran on June 13, 2010, 08:58
But it appears that they are no more savvy about microstock content and no more able to deliver sales than ever.  Glad I didn't bother.  Fool me once.....

With a small portfolio, I had an EL for 40$ (!!!!) and few sales this month on Veer, totally unexpected. About 70% AR.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: brookefuller on June 13, 2010, 20:07
I have 400 images pending ... none have gone through the approval process since my first 10 got accepted.  I do have 1 sale which is positive, but it would help if they would speed up the approvals so I could learn which of my images they prefer and make smarter submissions!  A month is too long to wait for approval for me ...
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Konstantin Sutyagin on June 30, 2010, 13:55
What is the cut-off time? Local time or EST?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Konstantin Sutyagin on June 30, 2010, 15:01
I've looked it up, it's PDT
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on July 22, 2010, 16:52
some good news about the dash program...i got an el sale for one of the photos approved under the dash for cash two days ago. it had been previously rejected under veer's draconian review board.

it was also rejected by is and ss (but accepted everywhere else). so life is not too bad for an indie who can go to different markets with various styles of photography.

what i've learned about veer's acceptance policy is that they are open to a lot more creative shots. some even came from my photocase port, which is a bit extreme. but, they are true stickers for model and property releases like you can't believe.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on August 21, 2010, 13:52
So, payouts for the Dash for Cash program are supposed to be made no later than September 15th. Coming up quickly?

I know someone mentioned this in another thread...when this program started, I got a weekly email update on my balance. That quit coming a month or so ago. Has anyone here gotten any update in the last couple of weeks?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: njnightsky on August 21, 2010, 14:10
Nope...Hey Veer can you send us one please.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Szakaly on August 21, 2010, 14:52
I have a strange feeling about it
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Stu99 on August 21, 2010, 16:21
So, payouts for the Dash for Cash program are supposed to be made no later than September 15th. Coming up quickly?

I know someone mentioned this in another thread...when this program started, I got a weekly email update on my balance. That quit coming a month or so ago. Has anyone here gotten any update in the last couple of weeks?

Weekly updates have stopped for me also. I didn't even get an update email when they reviewed my last batch of images.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Newsfocus1 on August 25, 2010, 14:33
Just had my final 140 Dash For Cash images reviewed with (at Veer) a better than usual 50% acceptance. What was pleasing was that the rejections related to the images and not just the "Not quite Veer" button being pressed. What was really impressive was the personalised notes (for similars) added by the reviewer/s along the lines of "we thought the other two pebble mosaic images worked better and they were approved". That's a first for me. They didn't have to do that -especially at a time when they are deluged with DFC images. So respect to Veer and the reviewer/s for that! Anyone else get those personalised rejections? Regards, David.

www.shootingstock.blogspot.com (http://www.shootingstock.blogspot.com)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: borg on August 26, 2010, 14:26
Do I need to get a confirmation email about my approved photos from "Dash for cash" ...?
I have not received anything like that....
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: donding on August 26, 2010, 14:33
Do I need to get a confirmation email about my approved photos from "Dash for cash" ...?
I have not received anything like that....

They were sending out e-mails about which were approved and which were rejected at first, but that quit happening in the middle of July along with the weekly posting about how much you had made so far with dash for cash. Don't know the reason behind that.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: njnightsky on August 26, 2010, 16:36
Just got my first update email in a while.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: borg on August 26, 2010, 17:21
Just got my first update email in a while.

Me too!

Thank you Veer!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on August 27, 2010, 15:02
Just got my first update email in a while.

Me too!

Thank you Veer!

ditto.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: rubyroo on August 27, 2010, 16:52
Just had Dash 4 Cash earnings added to balance.  You might all want to check yours?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: dirkr on August 27, 2010, 17:03
Yes, received mine as well  :D
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: PixelBitch on August 27, 2010, 18:04
Got mine too...and even without the Dash for Cash payment Veer are ahead of the pack this month...what a turnaround...guess it pays to believe.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Artemis on August 27, 2010, 18:21
Sweet! DFC payed prompt on time :)
Imho Veer is doing a really good job, i have good hopes for them. Sales are there, and they're there at very reasonable commissions + they're doing a very good marketing job (loved their puzzle book for its creativity).
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: FD on August 27, 2010, 18:33
Oh my God Allah Flying Spaghetti Monster Sol Invictus!
Yesterday 3.5$ today 212.1$. Please don't tell me it's a glitch. Please!  :o

208.6$ - how can that be? The highest price (for resale) on this shot is 125 Veer credits.

Update: got it. They must have paid out Dash for Cash, and the image sold was just 3.5$. Sigh. If something looks too good to be true, it isn't true.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on August 27, 2010, 18:45
yesterday, $3.5, today $219.8. it is not a glitch.

er...do you have my port, per chance?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cybernesco on August 27, 2010, 18:47
I did not get it yet.... Denis
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: FD on August 27, 2010, 18:58
er...do you have my port, per chance
I Don't know. Put a link to your port here so I can compare.  :P - Please also indicate the shots that sell well and can be copied easily.  ;D
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on August 27, 2010, 19:37
Oh, that Dash for Cash payout $$ + sales is so sswwweeeet!
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Pheby on August 27, 2010, 20:58
I'm still searching - where do I find the sweet new balance on the site?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: MicrostockExp on August 28, 2010, 00:57
Just received it as well:) Veer n 1 agency for me this month:)
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Dook on August 28, 2010, 01:34
Pheby, Go to your Dashboard/Statistics. You will find your Gross earnings there. It's your sales earnings plus Dash for Cash earnings.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: mtkang on August 28, 2010, 02:48
those images i had uploaded during the dash for cash period are still pending, i got email about how much i had earned for dash for cash, but it is not showing in my statistics.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: leaf on August 28, 2010, 03:52
those images i had uploaded during the dash for cash period are still pending, i got email about how much i had earned for dash for cash, but it is not showing in my statistics.

me neither.  I'm guessing that those of us with images still pending don't have the total in our account yet.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Pheby on August 28, 2010, 04:48
Pheby, Go to your Dashboard/Statistics. You will find your Gross earnings there. It's your sales earnings plus Dash for Cash earnings.

No, the balance hasn't changed. I got the email stating the dash for cash earnings though. Have to see.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: sharpshot on August 28, 2010, 05:01
Mine is there, a great month with Veer, EL's nice ordinary sales and the upload bonus.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Eco on August 28, 2010, 05:03
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those images i had uploaded during the dash for cash period are still pending, i got email about how much i had earned for dash for cash, but it is not showing in my statistics.

me neither.  I'm guessing that those of us with images still pending don't have the total in our account yet.

Yes, this is the most likely explanation.  I also got the e-mail stating my earnings to date, but nothing shows in my statistics yet. However, I still have approx. 250 images from the Dash for Cash period pending.  I was a worthwhile exercise though with an estimated earning well over $1000 (provided the remaining 250 don't get rejected).
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: qwerty on August 28, 2010, 07:42
got my $56 worth for dash for cash. now I wish they'd sell some.

I have a total of 390 online now, but earnings there are about 2-3% of monthly income.

 
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: FD on August 28, 2010, 11:27
me neither.  I'm guessing that those of us with images still pending don't have the total in our account yet.
I had 330 or so approved in the DFC program and still 140 pending. I really was going for the 400 (obviously). I have to admit I submitted the last batch beyond the 12 midnight European deadline, but within the US Pacific deadline. I'm just curious if they will accept this last batch within the DFC program.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: ap on August 28, 2010, 13:06
I have to admit I submitted the last batch beyond the 12 midnight European deadline, but within the US Pacific deadline. I'm just curious if they will accept this last batch within the DFC program.

you should check the date for those in your pending que. if it's 6-30-10, then its within the deadline. i had submitted a bunch by us pacific midnight, but some rolled over into 7-01-10, which probably won't be considered.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: njnightsky on August 28, 2010, 14:26
Still waiting for my $$$$  :( F5 F5 F5
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: FD on August 28, 2010, 18:31
you should check the date for those in your pending que. if it's 6-30-10, then its within the deadline. i had submitted a bunch by us pacific midnight, but some rolled over into 7-01-10, which probably won't be considered.
Thanks, I got it. My 140 waiting are all dated 7-01, even if I upload all night CET (I have to copypaste all my IPTC info since they only accept the Adobe IPTC scheme) till midnight Pacific US time = 9am CET. A full night hard work for nothing.

They took my local PC time, not theirs. I should have backdated my PC. Well that's it. I will reach the 400 but not under the DFC prgram. I could have better gone flip hamburgers that night. All the time wasted on uploading to Veer (considering the copypaste of the IPTC) I could have made 2-3 times more flipping than having to C/P IPTC on 700 images (luckily, still 340 in the edit queue that I don't have to do any more).

I'll check again in December but they're off my upload list from now on. They think my images are ""too editorial" and my models have "unnatural poses". I won't change my style for them. I'm fine with my sales at the better-selling sites.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: pancaketom on August 29, 2010, 17:44
I got 400 accepted with plenty still more in the queue, so as long as they actually payout, I'm pretty pleased with them.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: cathyslife on August 29, 2010, 18:11
I'm still searching - where do I find the sweet new balance on the site?

It will show in your sales on your Dashboard.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Pheby on August 29, 2010, 19:04
Thanks, but it hasn't turned up there yet, because I have a single image still pending from before the 30th of June...
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Beach Bum on September 09, 2010, 15:59
Wow!  Just had a ton of images rejected for all kinds of reasons.  I was sure that I would reach the 400 image target.  I don't think it will happen now.  Anybody else have surprising rejections lately?
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: njnightsky on September 09, 2010, 18:41
I have 18 left pending  >:(
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: disorderly on September 09, 2010, 19:06
I just had 48 accepted.  Only 128 left to go.
Title: Re: Veer Dash for Cash
Post by: Beach Bum on September 09, 2010, 19:24
Well, I made it!  Just barely broke the 400 level.