Author Topic: Veer Dash for Cash (Read 61324 times)

donding · « **Reply #75 on:** May 05, 2010, 19:20 »

Question....what is their payout limit??? I tried looking on their site and couldn't find it.
As for the payout, someone on here said something about the small print saying payouts wouldn't be made until Sept. Does that mean you will get the upload money at that time rather you reached payout or not???

I for one don't want to upload a ton of photos and have half of them rejected (because I'm sure they will be going over them with a fine tooth comb) and then have no sales and then not get paid because I couldn't reach payout.

Do I make any sense?

NitorPhoto · « **Reply #76 on:** May 05, 2010, 19:24 »

Earlier today I uploaded about 70 images. FTP was ok but the site script couldn't read my IPTC - had to delete them all. Now I tried it again but this time all uploaded files were broken. I give up.

donding · « **Reply #77 on:** May 05, 2010, 19:42 »

Got another question...is this only for current contributors?
And the way I'm reading it you're getting .35 for the first 99
.70 for the next 100 to 399, then after that you get paid the 1.40.
It doesn't sound like just because you have 400 images on there already, that you will automatically be getting 1.40. You'll still be only getting the .35 for the first 99, then .70 for the NEXT 100 to 399. In other words you have to get 400 accepted to even get the 1.40 and that would only be on the accepted ones from 400 and up.
If I'm wrong please correct me.

Quote
""Existing contributors (fewer than 199 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 99 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 100 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (200 to 399 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 49 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 50 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (400+ images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image""

Phillip Minnis · « **Reply #78 on:** May 05, 2010, 20:11 »

I'm glad I stuck with Veer!!!

I joined the site last year, and I have 428 images in my portfolio. Consequently, when I received the e-mail from Veer yesterday, about this latest promotion, I was pretty happy!

In the last 18 hours, I've been flat out uploading images using FileZilla. So far, I've uploaded over 600 images, 110 of which are now in the 'Pending' queue, awaiting inspection. I haven't had any problems uploading, and all titles, keywords etc. worked just fine. I still have another 400 images to upload.

Now I'm eagerly waiting to see how many of my images will be accepted. I'm hoping for 400-500 acceptances, out of the 900 I'm submitting.

To get the 428 images in my portfolio, I uploaded 763, which is success rate of around 56%.

Time will tell!

cthoman · « **Reply #79 on:** May 05, 2010, 22:21 »

Quote from: donding on May 05, 2010, 19:20

Question....what is their payout limit??? I tried looking on their site and couldn't find it.

Oh my god! The sky is falling. I've never seen so many people in a panic about an agency doing something good. Either submit your files or don't. Sorry, I didn't mean to single you out. I just thought this thread was a little crazy. Here's my olive branch.

When will I be paid?
The minimum threshold for payout is $100.00. Royalties will accrue until you surpass $100. If you don’t happen to hit $100 during the year, you’ll automatically receive payout of any accrued royalties after the close of the calendar year.

You will be paid 15 days following the month your accrued royalties surpass $100. So if you made $50 in March, and $75 in April, you will be paid $125 by May 15th. If you made $105 during the month of June, you would receive payment on July 15th.

Referenced from here: http://ideas.veer.com/group/marketplace/discussions/92

NitorPhoto · « **Reply #80 on:** May 06, 2010, 10:17 »

Errors, errors, errors and errors. Uploading is a PAIN! Can't they find an expert for their win server or what? But truly why do they announce a promotion program when they can't make their servers work. I am going to lose my patience... and interest.

Albert Martin · « **Reply #81 on:** May 06, 2010, 10:23 »

Quote from: NitorPhoto on May 06, 2010, 10:17

Errors, errors, errors and errors. Uploading is a PAIN! Can't they find an expert for their win server or what? But truly why do they announce a promotion program when they can't make their servers work. I am going to lose my patience... and interest.

As I said... Browser upload works fine...

AaronBooth · « **Reply #83 on:** May 06, 2010, 10:38 »

FTP Upload:

Make sure your FTP client's protocol is set to "FTP over explicit TLS/SSL".

Read the FTP help information in the Upload area of your workspace for more detail.

donding · « **Reply #84 on:** May 06, 2010, 10:44 »

Aaron
Is the information below correct? Is this for current contributors only or does it also include new contributors that registered after the Dash for Cash start date? Just want to clarify this.

Quote from: donding on May 05, 2010, 19:42

Got another question...is this only for current contributors?
And the way I'm reading it you're getting .35 for the first 99
.70 for the next 100 to 399, then after that you get paid the 1.40.
It doesn't sound like just because you have 400 images on there already, that you will automatically be getting 1.40. You'll still be only getting the .35 for the first 99, then .70 for the NEXT 100 to 399. In other words you have to get 400 accepted to even get the 1.40 and that would only be on the accepted ones from 400 and up.
If I'm wrong please correct me.

Quote
""Existing contributors (fewer than 199 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 99 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 100 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (200 to 399 images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 49 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 50 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.
Existing contributors (400+ images on veer.com)

Get 1 to 399 new images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image
Get 400+ new images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image""

sbonk · « **Reply #85 on:** May 06, 2010, 10:57 »

It says on the Veer web site it is good for new contributors.

New contributors
Get 1 to 199 images accepted and you’ll earn $0.35 per image.
Get 200 to 399 images accepted and you’ll earn $0.70 per image.
Get 400+ images accepted and you’ll earn $1.40 per image.

NitorPhoto · « **Reply #87 on:** May 06, 2010, 11:02 »

Quote from: AaronBooth on May 06, 2010, 10:38

Make sure your FTP client's protocol is set to "FTP over explicit TLS/SSL".

I am trying this right now.... I am still getting the critical file transfer error.
Thanks for helping me Aaron!

PeterChigmaroff · « **Reply #88 on:** May 06, 2010, 12:54 »

So you can you submit a 100 a week over 8 weeks = 800 images. To get the 400 images accepted so that you can grab the $1.40 per image prize you need an acceptance rate of 50%. Of the active contributors here, how many of you were exceeding 50% acceptance rates on an ongoing basis? Don't get me wrong, I think this is a good deal. I'm just wondering what the odds are of actually getting $1.40 per image accepted.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #89 on:** May 06, 2010, 13:07 »

Quote from: Zeus on May 06, 2010, 12:54

So you can you submit a 100 a week over 8 weeks = 800 images. To get the 400 images accepted so that you can grab the $1.40 per image prize you need an acceptance rate of 50%. Of the active contributors here, how many of you were exceeding 50% acceptance rates on an ongoing basis? Don't get me wrong, I think this is a good deal. I'm just wondering what the odds are of actually getting $1.40 per image accepted.

you can do it

ap · « **Reply #90 on:** May 06, 2010, 13:12 »

i would take note of what kind of images veer is looking for. my most recent batch of medical related pics all went through 100% (while 123 is rejecting most of them). perhaps this is due to their wanting science related photos. of course, my overall acceptance ratio falls way short of that.

gostwyck · « **Reply #91 on:** May 06, 2010, 15:03 »

Quote from: AaronBooth on May 05, 2010, 11:04

Great discussion here.

I'll clarify a few of the main questions to make sure everyone understands how Veer Dash for Cash is going to work, and why we have launched this program.

Submission Date, Publish Date, Payment: images submitted between May 5 and June 30 that are approved will count towards your final tally, even if it's published after June 30. We expect to have a large backlog after this program so it'll take time for our editors to get through all the submissions. Even if your image was submitted on June 30, no matter how long the image is pending before it's published, you will be paid for it.

Weekly 100 image upload limit: we are keeping our standard 100 image per week upload limit because we expect new contributors to sign up, which may add significantly to our submissions pool. The weekly limit is necessary to ensure we aren't overwhelmed. We want to take as many images as we can but it's also really important that we publish the images quickly so you can start making royalties.

Selects: to maximize your select rate and payout make sure to minimize similars and upload your best 100 images per week from a broad range of topics, locations, models. We're looking for quality and variety.

Why is Veer doing this: we are ramping up for a relaunch this summer, along with new marketing campaigns to reach a lot of new customers. First impressions are important so naturally, we aim to impress new customers with an even bigger and better image collection.

Ryan is your point person - feel free to reach out to him with questions.

Thanks for the support! Keep us busy!!

Aaron

Aaron,

What really concerns me about Corbis and other traditional stock agencies is that none of them actually 'get' what microstock (or should we just say 'stock'?) is all about today. They are still in the dark ages when it comes to the business of shifting serious volumes of licenses.

My impression is that they come breezing into microstock with their snobby, we-know-better-than-you-do attitudes to the 'amateur' contributors __ and then immediately fall flat on their faces. Snappytown, or whatever it was called, was a perfect example of a failure designed to happen. The entire site was positively insulting to contributors from the name onwards.

Senior people who have had careers in traditional stock keep assuming that there's a vast, untapped pool of customers out there who want a much more tightly-edited collection and who would be prepared to pay rather more to access it. Well I've got news __ there really isn't and they don't. That might run contrary to what your customers tell you in response to the surveys you probably send them. The truth is that the vast, vast majority of customers out there love microstock just the way it is. If anything they'd like it cheaper still.

The majority of customers don't really want a 'tightly edited collection', what they want is a massive choice of images and a search engine that is effective at sorting the wheat from the chaff and the dodgy keywording. As an example try doing a search on 'bacon sandwich' firstly at Corbis and Getty and then on the micro agencies. The last time I tried it I think I got 3 or 4 fairly average results on Getty and Corbis and then several hundred on the micros. I know which I'd prefer as a buyer.

There is an inherent tendency for traditional agencies to enthusiastically edit their collections and limit their contributors ideally to the point where choice for the customer is virtually eradicated. Unfortunately they bring that same attitude with them when they attempt to break into modern markets with lower price-points. The trad agencies just don't seem to appreciate that the whole game has changed, not just the prices.

If you want to sell stock in volume then you'll need to garner the support of the pro contributors first and that will not be helped if you keep rejecting tons of their best-selling work, which is what has been happening up to now and why I don't bother. You'd be far better off placing your trust in the track record of the well-proven contributor rather than the judgement of some junior editor who may well have never produced a successful stock image in their life.

Personally I'm still on the fence at whether to upload to Veer. I'm yet to be convinced that you have what it takes to be successful in today's market as it is more likely that most of the same mistakes will simply continue to be made.

dirkr · « **Reply #92 on:** May 06, 2010, 16:01 »

Quote from: Zeus on May 06, 2010, 12:54

Of the active contributors here, how many of you were exceeding 50% acceptance rates on an ongoing basis?

Since I joined Veer MP in June 09:

909 accepted, 47 rejected.

Maybe it is different in my case than for many others because my pictures are not "typical" stock (no people, no isolations over white...) but mostly travel / wildlife.

Only a pity that I don't have hundreds more to upload...

AaronBooth · « **Reply #93 on:** May 06, 2010, 16:15 »

gostwyck, you make intelligent points and sound like you'd be a perfect contributor to Veer. I do hope you give Veer a try. You'll see some big initiatives at Veer starting this summer to support a volume business. We're just getting started.

Dook · « **Reply #94 on:** May 06, 2010, 16:41 »

You are also too critical about keywords. I know you have your standards, but fixing keywords in your system is painful and time consuming. I have brought the keywords prepared for other micros and these are not good only for you. Can you, please, ease a little bit on keywords?

lisafx · « **Reply #95 on:** May 06, 2010, 17:57 »

I wish you the best of luck Aaron.

I had my accepted images removed from VM several months back in preparation for exclusivity elsewhere (that I eventually chickened out of

)

If I should decide to give it another go, can I have my accepted images reactivated, or do I have to start uploading from scratch?

Suljo · « **Reply #96 on:** May 06, 2010, 19:02 »

Where disappears Need Work option?
Now if image is rejected for bad keywords you must upload image again?!?

donding · « **Reply #97 on:** May 06, 2010, 20:52 »

Thank you Aaron for addressing my questions. I do appreciate it.

lisafx · « **Reply #98 on:** May 07, 2010, 10:08 »

Quote from: lisafx on May 06, 2010, 17:57

If I should decide to give it another go, can I have my accepted images reactivated, or do I have to start uploading from scratch?

Although I haven't heard from Veer directly on this, another contributor in the same situation was nice enough to site mail me. Apparently all images are removed from closed accounts and we have to start again from scratch.

Having gone through many weeks, countless hours, and numerous rejections to get a thousand or so images online there before, I don't think I will be putting myself through that again unless they prove they can deliver the sales this time around.

steheap · « **Reply #99 on:** May 07, 2010, 11:28 »

I was going to refer this promotion to a friend of mine who currently doesn't upload to Veer. Does Veer have a referral program? I couldn't find anything on the site.

Steve

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