It's six days since Veer issued their non-commital comment. I think we are entitled to hear something more definite before the week is finished.

Well a week has gone by since I emailed Veer asking them to terminate my account and remove my images from Alamy, guess what no reply whatsoever - guess after 30days I'll have to take the legal route.

Very bad news. Send them a DMCA in 23 days :-) I still wait (hope?) for a solution.

Just a suggestion to those asking that their Veer accounts be closed.  You might want to ask them to deactivate your images, rather than removing them.  This situation will probably be resolved favorably and it would be a bummer to have to start over uploading again. 

I closed my account a couple of years ago and they removed my images.  Later things improved there, and the process of uploading at 50/week is so slow and arduous that it took me over a year and a half just to get back to where I had been before closing my account. 

...looks like veer is doing its best undermining its own credibility by not responding anymore here on the board. Too bad, one less on the upload cycle

...looks like veer is doing its best undermining its own credibility by not responding anymore here on the board. Too bad, one less on the upload cycle

Absolutely, this behavior is too dodgy, I'll wait until I get my next pay cycle and then I'll close my account there if there's no change.

Just a suggestion to those asking that their Veer accounts be closed.  You might want to ask them to deactivate your images, rather than removing them.  This situation will probably be resolved favorably and it would be a bummer to have to start over uploading again.  

I closed my account a couple of years ago and they removed my images.  Later things improved there, and the process of uploading at 50/week is so slow and arduous that it took me over a year and a half just to get back to where I had been before closing my account.  

EDIT: Brian has posted while I was typing, so hopefully will get an answer soon

The fact we haven't got answers as yet suggests to me that we are not going see a great outcome on this. The collection on Alamy has grown by over 100000 images since I first looked (about when the thread was started).

As I said the other day the Alamy licence is an EL, at the smallest size it is about $5, obviously Veer are not going to pay us for an EL on this as it would be about $95.
If they ignore the fact it is EL sale at this size I think it is fair enough to assume that they will ignore the fact it is an EL sale at any size and just pay for a standard licence?
I looked through the info on veer, there is no percentage commission just a set amount earned per sale, and it is same amount for api / partner sales.

So when my images sell on Alamy through veer at the largest size. The sale is $365, Alamy get $146, Veer get $219 and I get $5.25! This equates to whopping 1.4% commission on the whole sale and about 2.4% of what veer gets in!

I was hoping Veer would come back with some nice answers but they havent as yet so I went through the partners list on veer (havent looked at the others found in the thread on msg). Of those listed, one is now partnered with 123rf not veer, another with alamy and a third with yay instead of veer. I could actually only find my images from veer on 3 of their listed sites (and one of those only had a few images).

Anyway clickphotos - $45 basic licence so 11.6% commission and Pocketstock.com.mx where I found my images with the veer id number on the site and gigante size - standard licence - mxn$840 = us$60 my cut is $5.25 about 8 percent commission.

(EDIT: Despite carefully checking everything that I could, I still missed the fact that pocketstock is in mexican pesos not US$ so have made changes to the original post. Thanks Dirkr for pointing it out and apologies to everyone else).

Hi All -

We behind the scenes at Veer strive for clear and proactive communication with our contributor community. And that has not been the case here. At all.

Our apologies. We understand your frustrations at not only the situation, but the poor communication. We are working towards resolution - we are still in the process of considering and implementing options. We plan to provide more solid details on the solution to this next week.

Those that are sticking it out  � thanks for bearing with us: we greatly appreciate your patience.

-   Brian

I didn't have good luck with Veer a few years ago and I had a hell of a time closing my account.  I had to threaten legal action.....after months went by with my images still active.  So I am not affected by this.  But I love the "we are still in the process of considering and implementing options".  What are you considering? How much you will lose by closing this gap or what is the best way to protect the interests of our contributors? Based on my personal experience it is all WIIFM.

This Alamy issue just added to my growing irritation of Veer. I have yet to make up in sales this month what they have taken from me during the last round of credit card fraud, and all that I see lately is subscription sales as $0.25. Add to that their slow reviews and dwindling sales and very little remain to keep me from cancelling my account.   

Alamy earns me 30% of my stock income, and Veer represent only 3% 2% being the lowest micro earner I submit to, with the exception of Bigstock.

If this situation is not solved quickly and in a satisfactory way I will delete my Veer portfolio in a blink if an eye. I will not accept having my highest earner sales cannibalized by a micro paying pathetic commissions.

i will be very surprised if they provide an opt out button for partner program. the day they announced they were introducing partners with no opt out, i believe it was discussed here. i removed my port from veer because of it. the whole partner program on all the sites is just a big mess. no one wants to separate out your earnings so you have no clue what works or what you are making.

So my whole Veer portfolio is at PocketStock, at prices from $70 to $840 - as opposed to $2 to $30 at Veer itself.

The reason it's especially remarkable that is that the entire 839 images I've had approved appear at PocketStock, where only 593 images appear on Veer's own site.

Think about that for a minute. They can get all the images displayed on a partner site where they can rip me off (if in fact we get paid the Veer royalty only should they make a sale through this other site) but not at "home"?

Incompetence, naked greed and almost total non-communication - Brian, saying it's "that has not been the case here" doesn't begin to cover it - is a really toxic brew.

We need some immediate clarification of how many sites you've sent our work to, what our royalty is for each of those, how those partner sales are recorded and why you don't display approved works on Veer's site when you do on the "partner" sites.

Talk about ways to instantly demolish trust...

So my whole Veer portfolio is at PocketStock, at prices from $70 to $840 - as opposed to $2 to $30 at Veer itself.

The reason it's especially remarkable that is that the entire 839 images I've had approved appear at PocketStock, where only 593 images appear on Veer's own site.

thats curious, I am in Veer since the start and I have no files on PocketStock..

Quote from: luissantos84 on May 26, 2012, 10:12

Quote from: jsnover on May 26, 2012, 09:25

So my whole Veer portfolio is at PocketStock, at prices from $70 to $840 - as opposed to $2 to $30 at Veer itself.

The reason it's especially remarkable that is that the entire 839 images I've had approved appear at PocketStock, where only 593 images appear on Veer's own site.

thats curious, I am in Veer since the start and I have no files on PocketStock..

+1

And it looks like the numbers discrepancy on Veer is a glitch.  I checked my portfolio twice: first time there was 461 images, second time there were 516 as expected.

try and find them at http://www.pocketstock.com.mx