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« Reply #75 on: May 17, 2012, 01:05 »
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Hi all-

we're aware of this issue, and we are working with Alamy on addressment.  We will report back with more detailed information soon.

Is that even a word?


Microbius

« Reply #76 on: May 17, 2012, 03:25 »
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« Reply #77 on: May 17, 2012, 03:43 »
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If alamy are going to accept mass uploads from the microstock sites, they have to ensure that duplicates of images already uploaded by their contributors aren't accepted.  Otherwise, 20 microstock sites could upload the same image and there would be 21 of them on alamy.  So I do think that alamy are partly responsible for this mess.  Other sites have managed to block images that they already have in their collection.  They also remove images from 3rd parties when a contributor uploads directly to them.  There's no reason why alamy can't do this.

It's weird to me that Alamy want to delete our  bigger enlarged photos, that have passed their QC, and then they will accept smaller version of same photos from some microstock site... :P

Both agencies have been correct so far, will see...
« Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 03:46 by borg »

« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2012, 03:46 »
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I think Veer crossed the line here. Especially if they are going to receive full RF prices from Alamy and give us only peanuts. This is ROBBERY!

« Reply #79 on: May 17, 2012, 06:08 »
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If alamy are going to accept mass uploads from the microstock sites, they have to ensure that duplicates of images already uploaded by their contributors aren't accepted.  Otherwise, 20 microstock sites could upload the same image and there would be 21 of them on alamy.  So I do think that alamy are partly responsible for this mess.  Other sites have managed to block images that they already have in their collection.  They also remove images from 3rd parties when a contributor uploads directly to them.  There's no reason why alamy can't do this.

It's weird to me that Alamy want to delete our  bigger enlarged photos, that have passed their QC, and then they will accept smaller version of same photos from some microstock site... :P

Both agencies have been correct so far, will see...
I don't think alamy want to delete anything.  There's lots of duplicate images.  If it was their policy to delete images we've uploaded ourselves and painstakingly keyworded, it would be a very unpopular move and they usually go out of their way to be contributor friendly.  When I emailed them, they didn't say anything about deleting the images I had uploaded.

« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2012, 07:17 »
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Reply so far from Alamy to my message below:

We will check this with the person concerned as he is currently out of office and will get back to you as soon as we have an update.

I've sent this to Alamy, if I get a sensible reply I will let you know:

"I see reports that you are deleting images we have uploaded if they also arrive at your site via your new arrangement with Veer. Is this correct? If so, there is no point in my completing most of my pending uploads.

If you are deleting submitters images in favour of an arrangement with Veer, can we keep images pending in our upload account for however long it takes to close our Veer accounts so that there is no clash, which might take a good many weeks?

If you are deleting images in favour of Veer and we close our Veer accounts, will those images be automatically restored or will we need to resubmit, assuming that we have any idea of what it is that has been deleted?

A clear statement about what is happening and what we can do to prevent Veer taking a cut of our commissions would be welcome,

Regards"

« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2012, 07:20 »
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this will be interesting from veer...

An alamy licence allows unlimited print run, multi-user and product for resale irrespective of the size bought.

So the commission from veer should be $35+$17.5+$43.75 = $96.25 (I've had sales on veer that included all three hmm...)
that's pretty good if someone buys one of the first four sizes on alamy (which are all under $95), but not good for $365 etc.

somehow I am thinking we are getting standard commissions $5.25 on a $365, but I sure hope not...

« Reply #82 on: May 17, 2012, 07:33 »
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I too have had this sale from a single image, similar to Phil but not exactly:

Unlimited reproduction       $35.00

Standard    Extended    Multi-user license    $17.50

Standard    Standard    XSmall    $0.35

Maybe though Alamy, not really sure . . . . . . .
« Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 07:36 by etienjones »

velocicarpo

« Reply #83 on: May 17, 2012, 07:45 »
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Obviously, they did not think one second in any conflicts or consequences for contributors. It is good news that Ryan responded here on the Forum, but time is running for me. I literally count days to my personal deadline to delete images. I have no more tolerance for companies that treat OUR images like THEIR assets.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2012, 09:23 by velocicarpo »

« Reply #84 on: May 17, 2012, 09:21 »
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Indeed if Veer is going to submit our photos to Alamy without giving us the choice to opt out it is good bye for Veer from my side as well ....

This is just not on

« Reply #85 on: May 17, 2012, 10:10 »
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Indeed if Veer is going to submit our photos to Alamy without giving us the choice to opt out it is good bye for Veer from my side as well ....

This is just not on

ditto

« Reply #86 on: May 17, 2012, 10:16 »
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Indeed if Veer is going to submit our photos to Alamy without giving us the choice to opt out it is good bye for Veer from my side as well ....

This is just not on

Sad but the only option for me as well.

ayzek

« Reply #87 on: May 17, 2012, 10:29 »
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Indeed if Veer is going to submit our photos to Alamy without giving us the choice to opt out it is good bye for Veer from my side as well ....

This is just not on

Same here.

« Reply #88 on: May 17, 2012, 11:00 »
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Indeed if Veer is going to submit our photos to Alamy without giving us the choice to opt out it is good bye for Veer from my side as well ....

This is just not on
Andres you have much more leverage than most of us here.

Would you mind (if you haven't done so already...) contacting Veer directly to let them know about your stance in regards to this issue?

« Reply #89 on: May 17, 2012, 11:13 »
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Veer developers are probably working on inserting an opt-out button right now __ either that or the entire scheme will have to be abandoned. Did Veer really not consider the consequences of their 'big idea'? Or did they just try to slip it under the radar and hope nobody would notice? Ridiculous.

« Reply #90 on: May 17, 2012, 11:19 »
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... Or did they just try to slip it under the radar and hope nobody would notice? Ridiculous.
I'm sure they tried that. There was no info upfront (that I know of) so it appears that this was supposed to be some night operation.

Look at Fotolia, they have tons of partners some of them are really dubious. It wouldn't surprise me if other agencies want to get a bigger piece of the pie by increasing exposure through more channels. Why tell us, since we will also "massively profit" from that... Heard that more than one time...

« Reply #91 on: May 17, 2012, 11:22 »
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Veer is in a very weak position (IMO) at the moment. Their sales aren't all that great, the big hoo-ha over the introduction of subscriptions - and the fact that it worked out that a huge majority of the small volume of subs sales were at 25 cents, something they said wouldn't be the case - a clunky upload process, tiny weekly upload limit, very slow review times....

It would be very easy to just drop them (although I'm 71 cents away from the next payout, so I'd like to get that first).

I don't even have an RF portfolio at Alamy to protect - just a small pile of RM images from 2008 when I went exclusive with IS and could only do RM elsewhere. But I've considered uploading my files to Alamy and in spite of their tedious upload process would rather do that and keep the extra cash than let Veer have it. It just p!sses me off that there's such awful communications with contributors and such readiness even from an also-ran agency to rip us off.

Your "addressment" needs to be pretty darn good Veer, 'cause you don't have a lot of residual goodwill.

« Reply #92 on: May 17, 2012, 11:31 »
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Indeed if Veer is going to submit our photos to Alamy without giving us the choice to opt out it is good bye for Veer from my side as well ....

This is just not on

same here!!

Ed

« Reply #93 on: May 17, 2012, 11:37 »
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I have 26 images on Veer  :D

My account balance is 35 cents.

I have over 1600 images on Alamy.  I sent a message to Veer yesterday evening asking them to close my account.  Not worth the bother for me.

antistock

« Reply #94 on: May 17, 2012, 12:17 »
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i'm a great fan of Alamy but where are the sales ?

they keep adding millions of images per month, views and zooms keep going down, sales are ok but nothing to be write home about apart some lucky cases.

their keywording system is pure rubbish and the only positive factor is they take almost anything in as their QC is the easiest in the industry.

now what ...including Veer stuff as well ... what's next ? bringing in every other micro agency as well ?

antistock

« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2012, 12:20 »
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Indeed if Veer is going to submit our photos to Alamy without giving us the choice to opt out it is good bye for Veer from my side as well ....

This is just not on

and by the way, how are they going to keyword the images considering the insane and stupid way alamy manages main/primary/secodary keywords ?
unless all these images are crafted to be keyworded for alamy they've no chance to make many sales there.

traveler1116

« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2012, 12:20 »
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i'm a great fan of Alamy but where are the sales ?

they keep adding millions of images per month, views and zooms keep going down, sales are ok but nothing to be write home about apart some lucky cases.

their keywording system is pure rubbish and the only positive factor is they take almost anything in as their QC is the easiest in the industry.

now what ...including Veer stuff as well ... what's next ? bringing in every other micro agency as well ?
That's my guess.

lisafx

« Reply #97 on: May 17, 2012, 12:36 »
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Reply so far from Alamy to my message below:

We will check this with the person concerned as he is currently out of office and will get back to you as soon as we have an update.


I got the same response to my e-mail. 

velocicarpo

« Reply #98 on: May 17, 2012, 12:44 »
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Alamy has steady sales for me. Although it is just about 20% of what I make on shutterstock I consider Alamy as a more reliable and stable Agency in the future than any of the Micros. I currently build up a huge exclusive Portfolio there (Editorial, RM, RF). I cannot hear those negative people anymore who only want to move if something promises immediate Profit.

tab62

« Reply #99 on: May 17, 2012, 13:24 »
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I might have to contact Bill directly on this matter...


 

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