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« Reply #175 on: May 26, 2012, 10:43 »
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And it looks like the numbers discrepancy on Veer is a glitch.  I checked my portfolio twice: first time there was 461 images, second time there were 516 as expected.

Not for me - no matter how many times I check, the smaller number is the same. I refresh the page, click See all - nothing changes. And it was that way a week or two ago when I first posted here about files not appearing in my public portfolio.

If you try your full name in double quotes on PocketStock, do you find anything that way? There's no link to an artist's portfolio from one image, so after I found one of mine through I search I tried the double quoted name, and that worked - for me anyway.


« Reply #176 on: May 26, 2012, 11:21 »
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If you try your full name in double quotes on PocketStock, do you find anything that way? There's no link to an artist's portfolio from one image, so after I found one of mine through I search I tried the double quoted name, and that worked - for me anyway.

Yes, that works for me, too.

I think Veer has got a lot to explain by now.

« Reply #177 on: May 26, 2012, 11:37 »
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Just a little remark about the prices. That site is from Mexico and the prices are in mexican Pesos, one being worth about 7 US cents.
I fully agree about the lack of transparancy and the urgent need for Veer to clear things up (and provide opt out per partner).

« Reply #178 on: May 26, 2012, 12:46 »
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Just a little remark about the prices. That site is from Mexico and the prices are in mexican Pesos, one being worth about 7 US cents.
I fully agree about the lack of transparancy and the urgent need for Veer to clear things up (and provide opt out per partner).

I saw a $ and didn't think about it being another currency - you're probably right though as I guess $ is used for pesos too. It says from 3 to 71 credits, wheras on Veer it's from 1 to 20 credits.

On Veer, 50 credits will cost you $67.50 and on PocketStock, 50 points will cost you 959 pesos, so it looks as though the per credit prices are roughly comparable. IOW Pocket stock is charging almost 3 times as much as Veer

XPTO

« Reply #179 on: May 26, 2012, 12:46 »
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« Last Edit: May 26, 2012, 12:49 by XPTO »

« Reply #180 on: May 26, 2012, 16:28 »
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Just a little remark about the prices. That site is from Mexico and the prices are in mexican Pesos, one being worth about 7 US cents.
I fully agree about the lack of transparancy and the urgent need for Veer to clear things up (and provide opt out per partner).

I saw a $ and didn't think about it being another currency - you're probably right though as I guess $ is used for pesos too. It says from 3 to 71 credits, wheras on Veer it's from 1 to 20 credits.

On Veer, 50 credits will cost you $67.50 and on PocketStock, 50 points will cost you 959 pesos, so it looks as though the per credit prices are roughly comparable. IOW Pocket stock is charging almost 3 times as much as Veer

oops sorry I did the same saw $ and assumed $US will see if I can edit original post

« Reply #181 on: May 27, 2012, 01:34 »
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Well, Pocketstock has got heaps of my pictures that I never sent to Veer, so I reckon it is getting them from somewhere else.

I've got doubts about the commission calculations that are being suggested. Perhaps Veer meant they will pay their normal commission percentage, rather than that they will pay pennies on a file that sells for hundreds.  It's still not acceptable for them to upload duplicates to Alamy, though they don't seem to have got round to my files yet.

« Reply #182 on: May 27, 2012, 03:07 »
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omg, I have only 14 images with veer as i joined them recently. and all of 14 images are in pocketstock lol
btw is www.pocketstock.com  different from www.pocketstock.com.mx ? as my images are not in pocketstock.com but in pocketstock.com.mx

Well, Pocketstock has got heaps of my pictures that I never sent to Veer, so I reckon it is getting them from somewhere else.


As i said pocketstock has "only those 14 images of mine" what i had submitted to Veer. so its certainly Veer who has submitted my images to pocketstock
« Last Edit: May 27, 2012, 03:11 by gemmy12 »

« Reply #183 on: May 27, 2012, 04:44 »
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omg, I have only 14 images with veer as i joined them recently. and all of 14 images are in pocketstock lol
btw is www.pocketstock.com  different from www.pocketstock.com.mx ? as my images are not in pocketstock.com but in pocketstock.com.mx

Well, Pocketstock has got heaps of my pictures that I never sent to Veer, so I reckon it is getting them from somewhere else.


As i said pocketstock has "only those 14 images of mine" what i had submitted to Veer. so its certainly Veer who has submitted my images to pocketstock


Yes, I see that Veer, Matton Images, PocketStock and Visualphotos all have the same file number on the same image for one of mine. It looks as if someone has taken some very similar shots to mine and supplied them to Veer, that's what confused me.

« Reply #184 on: May 27, 2012, 06:26 »
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With all the partner programs Veer seems to be involved with I'd expect more sales.

http://www.imagedirekt.com    watermarks show veer

« Reply #185 on: May 27, 2012, 09:24 »
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I upload my RF images to 12 sites including Veer and Alamy.  Alamy has 9% market share.  Veer has 5%.  About 680 images from my Veer portfolio are now at Alamy Creative.  Everyone of these images is already in my Alamy port.

The Veer/Alamy duplicity situation creates a financial incentive to stop uploading to Veer and begin the process of removing the "Alamy Creative" images from my Veer portfolio.  

I sincerely hope Veer does the right thing and lets us opt out.  
« Last Edit: May 28, 2012, 09:50 by trek »

velocicarpo

« Reply #186 on: May 28, 2012, 09:46 »
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So Brian....how is the solution going?

« Reply #187 on: May 28, 2012, 10:25 »
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So Brian....how is the solution going?

Yes Brian, inquiring minds want to know.

Actually I don't know how Veer could even think of doing this, especially when it's known that a lot of microstockers are double stuffing, meaning Alamy and the micros. Didn't anyone over there realize that there was going to be a conflict by submitting dupes? And if Veer didn't know that, then they don't know the business.

Also interesting is is that images are some images do not meet Alamy's size requirements. They're just being arbitrarily shoved up there.

ShadySue

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« Reply #188 on: May 28, 2012, 10:34 »
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Also interesting is is that images are some images do not meet Alamy's size requirements. They're just being arbitrarily shoved up there.
That is interesting in itself, as too-small files usually just get sifted out automagically at upload.

« Reply #189 on: May 28, 2012, 10:36 »
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I was always under the impression that it was bad form to submit micro images to Alamy, but if they will accept ms images via Veer then I suppose I should just submit them directly - thanks Veer for the idea.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #190 on: May 28, 2012, 11:00 »
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I was always under the impression that it was bad form to submit micro images to Alamy, but if they will accept ms images via Veer then I suppose I should just submit them directly - thanks Veer for the idea.

I had similar assumptions.  I guess my ideas are from "assuming" that RF was microstock.  If RF and RM are being licensed for the same price ... what is the differentiation?

« Reply #191 on: May 28, 2012, 11:15 »
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Alamy accepts RF. You shouldn't be uploading the same images as RF and RM.

« Reply #192 on: May 28, 2012, 11:18 »
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Alamy accepts RF. You shouldn't be uploading the same images as RF and RM.
yeah I knew that - I'm pretty sure I read in Douglas Freer's book that while some people put the same images on Alamy as the micros, it's frowned upon because of the different price points, so it's better to have seperate ports

rubyroo

« Reply #193 on: May 28, 2012, 12:06 »
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I asked Alamy years ago if it was OK to upload microstock images to them, and they said it was fine.

IMO, when in doubt, it's always better to ask the agency directly, rather than listen to other voices in the industry or inaccuracies perpetuated in forums.

« Reply #194 on: May 28, 2012, 12:17 »
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IMO, when in doubt, it's always better to ask the agency directly, rather than listen to other voices in the industry or inaccuracies perpetuated in forums.

Exactly. Douglas's book was published over 4 years ago and quite a lot has happened since then. Most specifically the Alamy license (which is what the customers are actually buying) is different to most microstock licenses so it is not the same product.

XPTO

« Reply #195 on: May 29, 2012, 05:45 »
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My Veer portfolio on Alamy continues to grow, and it's almost the double than it was on last Friday.

This is not good, not good at all!

Someone from Veer needs to come here and answer what's our cut in a sale made through alamy.

It's inadmissible if an image sells there for $245 and we get $5, losing a sale through alamy that would earn us about $147.

tab62

« Reply #196 on: May 29, 2012, 09:29 »
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how can you tell if a sale from Veer was taken from our alamy portfolio?

« Reply #197 on: May 29, 2012, 09:35 »
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As noted the files are still being transferred, and now 44 of mine show up.

In addition to doing very odd things with the keywords - it looks like the "main" keywords are just taken from the title - what they've done on some images to the descriptions is downright bizarre. Many images have no descriptions, but those which do have some jumble of words - nothing I ever put

For example, for an image of lounge chairs on Grace Bay Beach, the Alamy description is "activity businesses Central Americas seat seating furnishing".

On Veer, the title is "Lounge chairs on tranquil Grace Bay Beach" and the description is "Beach chaises at water's edge on the soft white sands of Grace Bay Beach, Turks & Caicos" Where did they get business and Central Americas out of that?

And the credit line doesn't include our name - just Alamy Creativity/Alamy. I think that's fairly standard for these re-distribution deals, but I don't like seeing my images with someone else's copyright on them

« Reply #198 on: May 29, 2012, 09:58 »
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They cannot put their copyright on them. They DO NOT OWN THE COPYRIGHT.  YOU DO!!!  Is this not a crime?????

« Reply #199 on: May 29, 2012, 11:30 »
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On March 12 Veer support delete 10 of my photos (at my request).  The photos were removed from my Veer port in a timely fashion.  These photos have reemerged and are being sold at Alamy Creative.  Anyone else having this problem?  I'm really hoping we get the opt out button soon. 


 

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