Author Topic: Storyblocks - any signs of life? (Read 24850 times)

Stephan · « **Reply #50 on:** May 18, 2019, 06:11 »

More relevant number would be downloads per month / $ .
For example, iStock went bellow $5/clip and I stopped uploading...

In Membership now: $0,11 was $0,18.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #51 on:** May 18, 2019, 06:20 »

Quote from: Stephan on May 18, 2019, 06:11

More relevant number would be downloads per month / $ .

I strongly disagree. But if it's important to you, then it is.

Quote from: Stephan on May 18, 2019, 06:11

In Membership now: $0,11 was $0,18.

Thanks!

That's all I wanted to see. Based on this small sample of 1 that is indeed very low compared to the competition. If that's a typical average that is. Surely the portfolio will have some impact,

, although I believe the difference is much smaller than in a traditional marketplace.

Stephan · « **Reply #52 on:** May 18, 2019, 06:35 »

Yep, Storyblocks sits at 5th place from 6 agencies where we contribute.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #53 on:** May 18, 2019, 07:36 »

Quote from: Stephan on May 18, 2019, 05:45

You can't see number of DLs in Member library to calculate your earning for $/clip

With the new Dashboard revenue pool is not visible.

That's kind of what I was getting at. Trucic said the revenue pool was extremely low, but unless I'm missing something... nobody knows how much the revenue pool is?

Visualab · « **Reply #54 on:** May 18, 2019, 08:24 »

0,11$ per clip....must be a joke!!

trucic · « **Reply #55 on:** May 18, 2019, 09:12 »

... I`m not participant anymore, but imagine that you can`t buy average Tesla S model with that sum(pool)...

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #56 on:** May 18, 2019, 09:52 »

You're probably right. But if you could list which agencies will generate me enough money to buy the average Tesla S model then that would be much appreciated. Just one would be fine. Or better still, if you could let me know exactly what i will be able to buy from my StoryBlocks earnings that would be just as useful. I mean based on your posts, I'm assuming you have these numbers?

trucic · « **Reply #57 on:** May 18, 2019, 10:14 »

... I was talking about revenue pool, not my % or total income... SB can`t buy Tesla S with dollars invested in monthly revenue pool... OK?

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #58 on:** May 18, 2019, 10:17 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on May 18, 2019, 05:03

Quote from: Stephan on May 18, 2019, 04:57
Open_, you are right with.

It is about 60% of the first two months and going down fast. In 2-3 months $ return from Memeber library will be about the same as in Marketplace before.

What are we talking about here, $1/clip/month? $0.1/clip/month? $0.01/clip/month?

No one else seems to have actual numbers, just "bad", which is quite subjective.

$1,000 for 1,000 clips per month would be quite good, even if it was $2,000 before, and $20 for 1,000 clips would be quite bad, even if it was $10 before...

On Envato Elements I make $2.80 per clip, per month. I know it's a different site with different customers and content etc, but they're also $16.50 a month for unlimited downloads, with a revenue share setup. If Storyblocks turns out to be about the same, then that'll do me.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #59 on:** May 18, 2019, 10:20 »

Quote from: trucic on May 18, 2019, 10:14

... I was talking about revenue pool, not my % or total income... SB can`t buy Tesla S with dollars invested in monthly revenue pool... OK?

So Storyblocks can't buy one Tesla S with the tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of customers who are paying them $16 a month? Are you sure you're basing your opinions regarding Storyblocks on actual data... or just random feelings and assumptions?

trucic · « **Reply #60 on:** May 18, 2019, 10:23 »

...oh, my... revenue pool shared by participants in MS...

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #61 on:** May 18, 2019, 10:28 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 18, 2019, 10:20

Quote from: trucic on May 18, 2019, 10:14
... I was talking about revenue pool, not my % or total income... SB can`t buy Tesla S with dollars invested in monthly revenue pool... OK?

So Storyblocks can't buy one Tesla S with the tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of customers who are paying them $16 a month? Are you sure you're basing your opinions regarding Storyblocks on actual data... or just random feelings and assumptions?

What he's trying to say is that on Storyblocks only a small part of the subscriber revenue (just arbitrarily chosen???) goes to contributors since they have a large library where they want to get 100% of the subscriber fees. Very different from Envato where all subscriber fees are shared (50/50) with the contributors, including unused.

I interpret that number as being less than $70,000 where it must be in the millions at Envato.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #62 on:** May 18, 2019, 11:02 »

But they're not split though are they? The subscription content that is owned or 'licensed' by Storyblocks, and the subscription content that is submitted by contributors/authors? Or are they? It's my understanding that if somebody subscribes, then they can download either, as there's not multiple subscription offerings... as far as I know. As such, the contributor provided content may be a small portion of the whole currently (which may result in a small portion of the revenue), but there are a load of subscribers, probably a lot more than Envato as Storyblocks/VideoBlocks have been going for several years.

I just think the Tesla example is a bit pointless. If you submit to Pond5 or Shutterstock does that mean you can automatically buy a Tesla? How long will this take? Does it matter if someone has 500 files and somebody has 50,000. Do the earnings scores in the Microstock Poll Results equate to % of a Tesla? Are subscription sites automatically bad, and normal sites automatically good... even if I earn more through subscription sites than I do through 123RF, Dreamstime, DepositPhotos, ClipDealer, Canstockphoto, MotionElements, Clipcanvas, and Clipdealer combined?

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #63 on:** May 18, 2019, 11:09 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 18, 2019, 11:02

But they're not split though are they? The subscription content that is owned or 'licensed' by Storyblocks, and the subscription content that is submitted by contributors/authors? Or are they? It's my understanding that if somebody subscribes, then they can download either, as there's not multiple subscription offerings... as far as I know. As such, the contributor provided content may be a small portion of the whole currently (which may result in a small portion of the revenue), but there are a load of subscribers, probably a lot more than Envato as Storyblocks/VideoBlocks have been going for several years.

This is the part that is not 100% clear. I've heard that it's a fixed pool going to this smaller part of the membership library contributors. So that number could be anything they choose... Doesn't matter if they earn millions from subscriptions, those millions aren't paid out. Only a fixed pool that they probably calculated along the same lines as what they would offer for buyouts ($20 per clip in your case).

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 18, 2019, 11:02

I just think the Tesla example is a bit pointless. If you submit to Pond5 or Shutterstock does that mean you can automatically buy a Tesla? How long will this take? Does it matter if someone has 500 files and somebody has 50,000. Do the earnings scores in the Microstock Poll Results equate to % of a Tesla? Are subscription sites automatically bad, and normal sites automatically good... even if I earn more through subscription sites than I do through 123RF, Dreamstime, DepositPhotos, ClipDealer, Canstockphoto, MotionElements, Clipcanvas, and Clipdealer combined?

You seem to be skipping over a few sentences, or not reading carefully. He's simply saying that the pool of money paid out to membership contributors (the revenue sharing part) was less than the price of a Tesla Model S, which would be less than $70-75,000 or so. Nowhere did he mention individual earnings...

trucic · « **Reply #64 on:** May 18, 2019, 12:34 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on May 18, 2019, 11:09

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 18, 2019, 11:02
But they're not split though are they? The subscription content that is owned or 'licensed' by Storyblocks, and the subscription content that is submitted by contributors/authors? Or are they? It's my understanding that if somebody subscribes, then they can download either, as there's not multiple subscription offerings... as far as I know. As such, the contributor provided content may be a small portion of the whole currently (which may result in a small portion of the revenue), but there are a load of subscribers, probably a lot more than Envato as Storyblocks/VideoBlocks have been going for several years.

This is the part that is not 100% clear. I've heard that it's a fixed pool going to this smaller part of the membership library contributors. So that number could be anything they choose... Doesn't matter if they earn millions from subscriptions, those millions aren't paid out. Only a fixed pool that they probably calculated along the same lines as what they would offer for buyouts ($20 per clip in your case).

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on May 18, 2019, 11:02
I just think the Tesla example is a bit pointless. If you submit to Pond5 or Shutterstock does that mean you can automatically buy a Tesla? How long will this take? Does it matter if someone has 500 files and somebody has 50,000. Do the earnings scores in the Microstock Poll Results equate to % of a Tesla? Are subscription sites automatically bad, and normal sites automatically good... even if I earn more through subscription sites than I do through 123RF, Dreamstime, DepositPhotos, ClipDealer, Canstockphoto, MotionElements, Clipcanvas, and Clipdealer combined?

You seem to be skipping over a few sentences, or not reading carefully. He's simply saying that the pool of money paid out to membership contributors (the revenue sharing part) was less than the price of a Tesla Model S, which would be less than $70-75,000 or so. Nowhere did he mention individual earnings...

eyeingasia · « **Reply #65 on:** May 21, 2019, 02:21 »

People seem to forget that by selling material to the SB subscription model they don't only compete with specific clips of themselves. They also do this for every other contributor that has similar clips in this category.

I'm sure SB are not randomly buying footage, they try to offer a membership pool that is as diverse as possible.

So maybe selling a small amount of clips for a one time fee doesn't seem threatening to you, but imagine if everyone is doing the same thing. It means they can soon offer usable clips in almost all categories, making all of your portfolios much less valuable on other stock sites.

digitalfarmer · « **Reply #66 on:** July 08, 2019, 09:23 »

I log into my Storyblocks account about once a month to see if I have any sales. After three months without any sales I had one image sale at the end of June. A few days later I received an email about updating my payout information.

After updating my information I went to login to my account again. For some reason my account was deleted, all of my images and videos have been removed. No notification whatsoever, no mention of the $16 balance in my account.

I don't have a large portfolio, but I do make regular daily sales on the Top Tier sites. I am surprised that Storyblocks closed my account without any notice.

wollwerth · « **Reply #67 on:** July 09, 2019, 08:40 »

Quote from: digitalfarmer on July 08, 2019, 09:23

I log into my Storyblocks account about once a month to see if I have any sales. After three months without any sales I had one image sale at the end of June. A few days later I received an email about updating my payout information.

After updating my information I went to login to my account again. For some reason my account was deleted, all of my images and videos have been removed. No notification whatsoever, no mention of the $16 balance in my account.

I don't have a large portfolio, but I do make regular daily sales on the Top Tier sites. I am surprised that Storyblocks closed my account without any notice.

Consider yourself lucky. It saves you the trouble of having to delete your own portfolio like the rest of us.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #68 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:23 »

I got a payout! Lol...

Sales: $7.99
Contract Withholdings: -$2.00
CC Fees: -$.15
Paypal Fee: $1.00

Total: $4.84 ! Woo hoo!

georgep7 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:59 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on August 16, 2019, 09:23

I got a payout! Lol...

Sales: $7.99
Contract Withholdings: -$2.00
CC Fees: -$.15
Paypal Fee: $1.00

Total: $4.84 ! Woo hoo!

just curious, I don't know what Contract Withholdings and CC Fee is @Sean, can you explain please?

Thomas from France · « **Reply #70 on:** August 16, 2019, 10:14 »

I’ve got a (Small) payout too.
Seems like they are cleaning before leaving.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #71 on:** August 16, 2019, 10:21 »

Quote from: georgep7 on August 16, 2019, 09:59

just curious, I don't know what Contract Withholdings and CC Fee is @Sean, can you explain please?

I assumed contract withholdings is their way of taking their cut. The fees is probably a portion of a buyer using a CC? Who knows.

Fairplay · « **Reply #72 on:** August 16, 2019, 11:35 »

I received a payout for my all time 9 image sales.
The problem is they withheld 30% instead of 5% despite they have my two tax forms one from 2017 and one from few months ago!
Schmucks

BTW CC Trans. Fees are from the time they were paying 100% royalties.

Orchidpoet · « **Reply #73 on:** August 19, 2019, 20:42 »

I asked StoryBlocks to cancel my membership yesterday. They informed me that it has been done today.

aetb · « **Reply #74 on:** August 19, 2019, 21:14 »

If you were the company and want people to migrate to the market place - would you not reduce the commission to motivate contributors to make the switch ?
I would.
That piss me off however !

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Author Topic: Storyblocks - any signs of life? (Read 24850 times)

Stephan

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increasingdifficulty

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