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Is the other content wholly owned or is like their other sites where they paid the copyright holders some paltry sum (much less than an EL) to be able to sell the content in perpetuity without any further compensation?I have just had a thought. Who thinks they will soon be approaching the best selling people on the PPD side with an offer to licence their portfolios in the same way as graphicstock (their other site)? I think they are just using the set up to be able to chose only the people that sell to license to the sub site, so the quality of their subs offering will increase and PPD decrease until the opposite of the current situation is the case, best stuff on the subs side with no further compensation to contributors.
Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on December 16, 2015, 06:28Is the other content wholly owned or is like their other sites where they paid the copyright holders some paltry sum (much less than an EL) to be able to sell the content in perpetuity without any further compensation?I have just had a thought. Who thinks they will soon be approaching the best selling people on the PPD side with an offer to licence their portfolios in the same way as graphicstock (their other site)? I think they are just using the set up to be able to chose only the people that sell to license to the sub site, so the quality of their subs offering will increase and PPD decrease until the opposite of the current situation is the case, best stuff on the subs side with no further compensation to contributors.I thought I heard they paid artists to shoot a lot of that content for them before they started up.....can't say for sure but I thought I read that somewhere.
Yes I wouldn't be surprised at all if VB management start approaching sellers in their marketplace and make an offer for their content.
If they decide to sell at much lower price or lower our commission, we can just delete our clips. It's so easy.
Quote from: helloitsme on December 21, 2015, 21:39If they decide to sell at much lower price or lower our commission, we can just delete our clips. It's so easy.I don't sell video, so this is just a comment in general terms about the risks you take if you sign on for a deal that is undercutting other agencies where you currently sell.If VideoBlocks becomes dominant and then cuts your royalties you may not have any other agencies left out there to sell through. So you can just delete your clips (always something you want to check with any agency, that you can do that yourself), but there's nowhere to go.There was a story about limo drivers in Houston who helped Uber get started, spoke up for them with the city council, and then when Uber started changing the deal and cutting driver payments, the companies they used to drive for were all gone and they were stuck with Uber.
VB actually is in the process of sourcing in content for a one-time-fee. So it will be offered as "own" content on the site and available for a flat fee to customers forever and without limitation. This business model, if it takes root, will eradicate the existing stock market. Even if you sign up for a commission you just feed the site to get a customer base, and once that base is established you will just receive 100% of nothing while the own content will be promoted. You should think really well before supporting business models that will destroy your very livelihood.
Uh oh...and may I guess who you support fully?
They wont change their business model. Their existing model is quite sufficient to put you out of business. They are growing their solely owned content so they can stop having to pay out commissions. ETA I mean content they pay a one time fee to be able to give away or sell as they see fit. So not actually owned by them necessarily.
We need to make an all out push now to promote VideoBlocks everywhere, in your social media and everywhere you can to get word out to buyers so they can come to videoblocks. In light of Pond 5 basically out of the picture now and closing the door to new uploads as they've "raised their standards" we need to make Videoblocks number one. It would be nice if they let us set our own prices OR raised their prices to well over $100 and bucked the trend to race to the bottom but their 50% commission is a lot better than the tiny commissions SS pays.Unless there is another site out there that is better that I don't know about that accepts editorial as well as commercial then I think Videoblocks is the only real game left in town and if so then we need to promote them and get buyers to come to them.