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« on: September 05, 2012, 14:23 »
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Just got a note about this.


ShadySue

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2012, 14:24 »
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tab62

« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2012, 14:27 »
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here is the note-Hi, how are you? I hope everything is going well, and that you had a great summer!

We just wanted to let you know that we have signed a distribution deal with Alamy this summer. It will be active within short time, so if you dont want to be represented at Alamy, or with other partners, please go to this link: http://yaymicro.com/api-details.action and uncheck the corresponding box(es).

ShadySue

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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2012, 14:37 »
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If you opt out of Alamy, does that prevent you from opting in to other distribution deals? If so, that might h*ck off some Yay contributors who already contribute the same images to Alamy (shades of Veer), but might want to opt in to others.

(I'm not a member there, so can't find out via the link)

tab62

« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2012, 14:42 »
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Just checked it is a single check box for each distribution company - here is info on alamy

Alamy
Webpage: alamy.com
Country: International
Commission to photographer: 50%
Commission Yay get from distributor: 60%

ShadySue

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2012, 14:45 »
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Just checked it is a single check box for each distribution company - here is info on alamy

Alamy
Webpage: alamy.com
Country: International
Commission to photographer: 50%
Commission Yay get from distributor: 60%

Thanks for checking.
There shouldn't be a duplication issue, then.

Paulo M. F. Pires

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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2012, 14:47 »
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Smell like.. hmmm. "creatives images".

Will keep it "off" until further explanation about that particular partnership.

« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2012, 15:01 »
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Great news.  I already contribute to Alamy so I'll be opting out but for those who aren't on Alamy this is a great option.  The upload process to Alamy is a real pain so it's also nice for those who can't be bothered to do the work of uploading there.

Also, kudos to Yay for being so transparent with their partner programs, the commissions and being able to opt out on a per site basis.  Two thumbs up!

« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2012, 15:19 »
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linda is Linda Lgreid Johannessen

Try a search of that


Just to get informed.

The Norwegian tax department shares info.

« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2012, 15:34 »
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linda is Linda Lgreid Johannessen

Try a search of that


Just to get informed.

The Norwegian tax department shares info.


What are you saying?  Are you referring to her low income?
This site isn't here to discuss people's personal taxes so this may be removed but...  here's my take for now.
She's a partner in Yay (I assume owner) So she doesn't have to pay herself anything if she doesn't want to.  The money would just stay in the company.

Also, if you have a loan in Norway, the interest paid on the loan is subtracted from your income before it is pasted in that list, the same goes for a number of other deductions.  Here's a page explaining (you'll have to find google translate yourself)
http://www.dinside.no/880812/slik-tolker-du-skattelistene

« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 15:37 »
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I can read and understand Norwegian.
I know the system there.

I just say...
research is good.

« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2012, 17:08 »
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So if you sell an image through them at Alamy for 100$, does Alamy get 40, and you and Yay each get 30 or does Alamy get 40 and Yay 10 and you 50?

Much better than how Veer went about it anyway.

ShadySue

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2012, 17:23 »
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Just checked it is a single check box for each distribution company - here is info on alamy

Alamy
Webpage: alamy.com
Country: International
Commission to photographer: 50%
Commission Yay get from distributor: 60%

Have they said anything about Alamy's distributors in certain countries, from which 'normal' Alamy contributors get 40%, Alamy get 40% and the other distributor gets 20%?
(Maybe Yay has opted out of Alamy's distribution scheme, so that wouldn't be an issue?)

« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2012, 19:40 »
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So if you sell an image through them at Alamy for 100$, does Alamy get 40, and you and Yay each get 30 or does Alamy get 40 and Yay 10 and you 50?

Much better than how Veer went about it anyway.

I think it's:
Alamy get's 40%, Yay get's 60%, that's $60 to Yay
Photographer get's 50% from Yay's commission. That's $30 to you, which is 30% less than if you are direct. You basically split your commission with Yay
« Last Edit: September 05, 2012, 19:47 by Gunter Nezhoda »

ShadySue

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2012, 19:47 »
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So if you sell an image through them at Alamy for 100$, does Alamy get 40, and you and Yay each get 30 or does Alamy get 40 and Yay 10 and you 50?

Much better than how Veer went about it anyway.

I think it's more like
Alamy get's 40%, Yay get's 60%, that's $60 to Yay
Photographer get's 50% from Yay's commission. That's $30 to you, which is 10% less than if you are direct.

By your arithmetic, it would be 50% less than if you were direct, when you would get $60. I don't know if that's how they're working it out, as the announcement was ambiguous, but it certainly would be one interpretation. That was the 40/30/30 scenario indicated by PancakeTom.

« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2012, 19:49 »
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So if you sell an image through them at Alamy for 100$, does Alamy get 40, and you and Yay each get 30 or does Alamy get 40 and Yay 10 and you 50?

Much better than how Veer went about it anyway.

I think it's more like
Alamy get's 40%, Yay get's 60%, that's $60 to Yay
Photographer get's 50% from Yay's commission. That's $30 to you, which is 10% less than if you are direct.

By your arithmetic, it would be 50% less than if you were direct, when you would get $60. I don't know if that's how they're working it out, as the announcement was ambiguous, but it certainly would be one interpretation. That was the 40/30/30 scenario indicated by PancakeTom.

You are correct, I edited, should be right now

« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2012, 19:53 »
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It won't let me edit, I just post it again, I think that's it:

I think it's:
Alamy get's 40%, Yay get's 60%, that's $60 to Yay
Photographer get's 50% from Yay's commission. That's $30 to you, which is 50% less than if you are direct. You basically split your commission with Yay.  :-\

« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2012, 22:34 »
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This is absurd.

You have your picture represented by an agency, who is reprecented by an agency.

It is a circus.
Or maybe it is not. Maybe I should make such an angency, and represend pictures and let others do the saleswork.

Guys and girls, cant you see how it all goes in circles and how we loose control.

I had about 200 pictures on yay, and had one sale, and again some of my best sellers had many views but no sales.
I have now deleted them.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2012, 22:37 by JPSDK »

« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2012, 00:46 »
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It won't let me edit, I just post it again, I think that's it:

I think it's:
Alamy get's 40%, Yay get's 60%, that's $60 to Yay
Photographer get's 50% from Yay's commission. That's $30 to you, which is 50% less than if you are direct. You basically split your commission with Yay.  :-\

Yeah, that's correct.  Obviously it's much better to upload the photos yourself

ShadySue

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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2012, 06:08 »
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The upload process to Alamy is a real pain so it's also nice for those who can't be bothered to do the work of uploading there.
Agreed the process is a pain (but 50% of the fees to avoid it? No thanks!), but unless Yay has the same keyword/search system, there will be a lot of false searches returned, which is going to lower Yay's Alamy Rank, unless somehow part of the deal is to grant Yay a falsely high AR, which will just p*ss off buyers.

Poncke

« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2012, 06:21 »
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This whole business is getting ridiculous  8)

Paulo M. F. Pires

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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2012, 08:57 »
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After YAY response, i'll give a try. I have 1080 files (YAY) vs 475 ( Alamy ). They will work to avoid duplicate files.

« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 09:07 by Paulo M. F. Pires »

« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2012, 10:03 »
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This whole business is getting ridiculous  8)

i have to agree with this one.

why can an "AGENCY" do their own marketing?

ShadySue

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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2012, 10:05 »
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This whole business is getting ridiculous  8)

i have to agree with this one.

why can an "AGENCY" do their own marketing?

Because they can pick up 30% with almost no work?

« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2012, 10:09 »
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This whole business is getting ridiculous  8)

i have to agree with this one.

why can an "AGENCY" do their own marketing?

Because they can pick up 30% with almost no work?

again, it's indeed ridiculous if any togs allow this to happen by opt in. 


 

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