Author Topic: YAY eats everything but it does not spit any coins yet (Read 19204 times)

melastmohican · « **on:** August 11, 2008, 14:21 »

I just wonder if I should keep uploading?

takestock · « **Reply #1 on:** August 11, 2008, 14:37 »

Have stopped uploading a while back now.
It's time to wait and see!

Time will tell - you can always upload the rest if any wind catches the sails!
Hope the breeze gets up next month!

Peter · « **Reply #2 on:** August 11, 2008, 15:06 »

I stopped as well. And I will probably close my account in december.

YAY was my biggest mistake in microstock world.

I wasted my time on uploading 3000 images there.

sharpshot · « **Reply #3 on:** August 11, 2008, 16:25 »

They said all along that they wont market the site until the summer is over. We will have a better idea by the end of the year.

imageZebra · « **Reply #4 on:** August 11, 2008, 17:25 »

It will be hard to market a site that allows derogatory/racial slurs and foul language on its “most popular searches” page. At first it was in Cyrillic, now it is in English. About a moth ago I addressed the issue via email to management; but no actions were taken.

I stopped uploading, and now am I am thinking about deleting my portfolio.

ironarrow · « **Reply #5 on:** August 11, 2008, 19:12 »

I said this so many times.. don't waste your time..

DanP68 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 11, 2008, 19:15 »

Quote from: sharpshot on August 11, 2008, 16:25

They said all along that they wont market the site until the summer is over. We will have a better idea by the end of the year.

Exactly.

So far they have been straight forward with their intentions. If October rolls around and they still aren't advertising, then you pull the plug before they turn into Albumo2. But losing patience now is folly. What was anyone expecting? They came right out from Day 1 and said they would begin advertising in Autumn.

sharpshot · « **Reply #7 on:** August 12, 2008, 03:11 »

Just checked and I had my first sale yesterday and made 1 euro.

Joyce · « **Reply #8 on:** August 12, 2008, 03:14 »

Quote from: DanP68 on August 11, 2008, 19:15

Quote from: sharpshot on August 11, 2008, 16:25
They said all along that they wont market the site until the summer is over. We will have a better idea by the end of the year.

Exactly.

So far they have been straight forward with their intentions. If October rolls around and they still aren't advertising, then you pull the plug before they turn into Albumo2. But losing patience now is folly. What was anyone expecting? They came right out from Day 1 and said they would begin advertising in Autumn.

It just seems like another case of people getting impatient. SS's raise comes to mind when they said it would be announced mid-May, and some people started causing a fuss on May 1st.

leaf · « **Reply #9 on:** August 12, 2008, 03:24 »

it is very nice that we get 1 euro per subscription sale... quite a bit better than any other site!

Nemo1024 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 13, 2008, 05:11 »

I am still uploading to Yay and will be doing so until next spring, at which time I'll evaluate the returns... As of now, I already have €1 in my sales account

Nemo1024 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 20, 2008, 10:46 »

And now I got €2,5 from another sale (medium size)

I am definitely starting to like YayMicro. YAY!!!

My ref link: http://yaymicro.com/register.action?referredBy=Nemo1024

Bateleur · « **Reply #12 on:** August 20, 2008, 10:59 »

Nothing for me yet, and I have just over 500 images with them.

But I'm certainly not going to jump ship, having taken the trouble to upload (though it wasn't much trouble ... this is about the easiest site).

What's the point? It costs nothing to keep your images there.

rene · « **Reply #13 on:** August 20, 2008, 11:15 »

Can we delete our images at any time at Yay? I don't want to make the Albumo mistake.

lobby · « **Reply #14 on:** August 20, 2008, 11:37 »

just got my first 1 €

no more uploading till october or november

i got about 1400 images in port

Talanis · « **Reply #15 on:** August 20, 2008, 12:09 »

Just got my first 3 sales there today. Keep faith, they are only 2.5 months old and stated before opening that their marketing blitz would be at fall only.

CvanDijk · « **Reply #16 on:** August 20, 2008, 12:27 »

Yesterday I had my first sale, an editorial one, I received € 7,50
I only have a small portfolio of 100 pictures there.

takestock · « **Reply #17 on:** August 20, 2008, 13:20 »

Good to see reports of sales.
None for me so far!

Nemo1024 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 20, 2008, 14:18 »

Congratulations, Claudia! Editorials are rare (at least I did not have any in all of the sites I am with).
Rene, yes, you can delete any photo at any time there - no restrictions.

I just discovered that the minimum payout level is €30, which looks very realistic to achieve...

(FYI: 572 shots in my portfolio)

http://yaymicro.com/register.action?referredBy=Nemo1024

Freezingpictures · « **Reply #19 on:** August 20, 2008, 14:22 »

Got my first as well. Euro 0,5 for small size.

JBe · « **Reply #20 on:** August 21, 2008, 01:21 »

I might be a bit slow on the uptake here, but when ppl complain about a site not making any money, an about what a waste of time it was to upload their images; why then want to waste even more time deleting the images from the site again.
I mean, its free to have them online, it doesnt cost you anything, neither time nor effort, and you already feel that youve wasted your time. I can't see how it could hurt to have them online, once theyve already been uploaded. They could actually produce enough sales for a payout, sure most likely in a long long time though.

So why do people want to delete their port from non-producing sites, at the first signs of slow sales?

(and who had honestly thought theyd get a fair amount of sales at a newly founded site already before theyd started their marketing campaign. It takes time to get a customer base.)

DanP68 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 21, 2008, 02:22 »

Quote from: JBe on August 21, 2008, 01:21

So why do people want to delete their port from non-producing sites, at the first signs of slow sales?

Why? Because it sends a clear message that we are in this as business partners, and that if the agency does not advertise on our behalf we will take our work elsewhere. Don't you think it is important that agencies realize they cannot keep our images and do nothing but pay for its server?

If you keep your images at Site A even when they do nothing to advertise, what will you tell Site B when they pull something similar?

I am patiently waiting for advertising, and by the way Fall is just about here in terms of the business cycle. September 21 means nothing. The real business cycle begins after Labor Day weekend when students return to college/school, workers return to their businesses, etc. So if they don't start advertising in 2 weeks, you will have reason to be skeptical.

sharpshot · « **Reply #22 on:** August 21, 2008, 03:17 »

I will give them a year and I don't expect too much. There is lots of competition but they have shown that they are great at designing a functional contributor friendly websites. Several of the other sites have an inferior website or a tedious upload procedure. Hopefully they will be just as good with the buyers.

It looks like it took the current big sites a long time to get going and they had very little competition. I think giving a new site less than a year to generate sales is unfair.

takestock · « **Reply #23 on:** August 21, 2008, 03:22 »

I certainly agree with Dan here.
Well said!

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Quote from: JBe on August 21, 2008, 01:21

So why do people want to delete their port from non-producing sites, at the first signs of slow sales?

Why? Because it sends a clear message that we are in this as business partners, and that if the agency does not advertise on our behalf we will take our work elsewhere. Don't you think it is important that agencies realize they cannot keep our images and do nothing but pay for its server?

If you keep your images at Site A even when they do nothing to advertise, what will you tell Site B when they pull something similar?

I am patiently waiting for advertising, and by the way Fall is just about here in terms of the business cycle. September 21 means nothing. The real business cycle begins after Labor Day weekend when students return to college/school, workers return to their businesses, etc. So if they don't start advertising in 2 weeks, you will have reason to be skeptical.
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Marburg · « **Reply #24 on:** August 21, 2008, 10:31 »

You are correct. Also, they are very new only a few months old in terms of being live. If you stop uploading the chances of sales go down. I have found that with any site, especially new ones, it can take up to 6 months to start seeing sales. So, stop if you want. Or be more patient and at least give them until the end of the year.

Quote from: DanP68 on August 11, 2008, 19:15

Quote from: sharpshot on August 11, 2008, 16:25
They said all along that they wont market the site until the summer is over. We will have a better idea by the end of the year.

Exactly.

So far they have been straight forward with their intentions. If October rolls around and they still aren't advertising, then you pull the plug before they turn into Albumo2. But losing patience now is folly. What was anyone expecting? They came right out from Day 1 and said they would begin advertising in Autumn.

louoates · « **Reply #25 on:** August 21, 2008, 16:52 »

I wouldn't wait for "advertising" to kick in. There may be no traditional advertising as we know it. Yay made a big to-do about non-traditional marketing. So if visions of the late Lucky Oliver dance in front of your eyes, don't be surprised. Whenever you hear claims of cutting-edge marketing or internet-based promotion bandied about -- time to worry. Especially when accompanied by statements such as "we're not going to be spending a lot of cash."

Savvy marketers look first at what the big guys are doing and then try to do more of it or do it better. The pioneers are the ones with arrows stuck in their backs.

I've never been a believer in delayed spending either. What is their plan? To wait until their total image numbers are REALLY dwarfed by the competition? No, as sad as it is for me to forecast, I'm afraid we've got a Norwegian Lucky Olav on our hands.

I'll still keep the 200+ of my best selling images there at least until the end of the year -- in hopes that St. Nickolas will soon be there.

sharpshot · « **Reply #26 on:** August 21, 2008, 17:07 »

My sales with Lucky Oliver came close to the more established sites a few times. I think there was more to their downfall than just a lack of marketing. Other sites have kept going with less sales, so perhaps they had more debt or their investors were not happy?

I increased my sales by 100% with yaymicro yesterday when I had my second sale

mwp1969 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 21, 2008, 17:41 »

No sales there yet, but I will give it time as it has one of the easiest upload interfaces around.

-Mark

peep · « **Reply #28 on:** September 02, 2008, 07:57 »

So what? Has anybody noticed any advertisements anywhere? Or better - any sales?

mjp · « **Reply #29 on:** September 02, 2008, 09:39 »

Few sales already. Not much but its a start:). Had to wait 1-2 years

.

helix7 · « **Reply #30 on:** September 02, 2008, 09:53 »

Quote from: DanP68 on August 11, 2008, 19:15

...What was anyone expecting? ...

I'd ask the same question, but only in response to the idea of jumping on board with yet another new and unproven company. Show me the money and I'll sign up. Until then...

CCK · « **Reply #31 on:** September 06, 2008, 14:04 »

I just had a look at what they have to sell at YAY - what a lot of crap. The reviewers will have to do some sort of quality control if they want to sell photos.

There are probably some decent photos, but who wants to go though thousands of worthless photos to look for something they can buy?

takestock · « **Reply #32 on:** September 06, 2008, 14:16 »

This issue of quality was raised before.

Seems like a rush to build a large database. They did say that quality would be tightened up at a later stage, whether this means weeding out existing material or not I don't know.

Quote from: CCK on September 06, 2008, 14:04

I just had a look at what they have to sell at YAY - what a lot of crap. The reviewers will have to do some sort of quality control if they want to sell photos.

There are probably some decent photos, but who wants to go though thousands of worthless photos to look for something they can buy?

MicrostockExp · « **Reply #33 on:** November 03, 2008, 05:09 »

Got my first sale at Yay , large for 5 euros

( about 300 pics on line )

Tim Markley · « **Reply #34 on:** November 03, 2008, 08:46 »

I hope this site takes off, they have the best upload system in the business. It does not get any easier short of FTP. I hope they pick up.

Peter · « **Reply #35 on:** November 04, 2008, 00:28 »

So they have best upload system does not mean they should sell well. I deleted all my images few months ago, and (so far) it turns to be a right move.

epixx · « **Reply #36 on:** November 04, 2008, 08:23 »

Things take time. SV started more than a year ago, but only the last 2-3 months have given me significant sales there. If all contributors had deleted their portfolios, they wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

It will probably take 1-3 years for Yay to become a serious competitor as well. Deleting a portfolio before that is a waste of time.

crazychristina · « **Reply #37 on:** November 04, 2008, 13:49 »

Everyone here comments how easy Yay is to use. I'm guessing customers will find the same thing. Their stated point of difference is that they don't have any of the entrenched problems that other sites have. As soon as potential customers start to realize this they will take off like a rocket.

null · « **Reply #38 on:** November 04, 2008, 14:08 »

Quote from: takestock on August 11, 2008, 14:37

Hope the breeze gets up next month

Where did I hear that before? UnluckyOliver or Snapshotvillage?

crazychristina · « **Reply #39 on:** November 04, 2008, 15:33 »

I remember a time before Google. With the right formula, things can change very fast on the internet.

Peter · « **Reply #40 on:** November 04, 2008, 16:03 »

Quote from: epixx on November 04, 2008, 08:23

Things take time. SV started more than a year ago, but only the last 2-3 months have given me significant sales there. If all contributors had deleted their portfolios, they wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

It will probably take 1-3 years for Yay to become a serious competitor as well. Deleting a portfolio before that is a waste of time.

what time? my best earners are worse and worse every next month, and I am supposed to believe that some new agency will do better by some miracle? I would be happy to maintain this pace on FT, SS and DT. But I have to work 3 times harder every month, just to stay on the same level, to stay in game.

RT · « **Reply #41 on:** November 04, 2008, 17:52 »

Quote from: averil on November 04, 2008, 13:49

As soon as potential customers start to realize this they will take off like a rocket.

Well unless those folks in charge at Yaymicro learn the very basic principals of marketing i.e. 'if you have something to sell you need to tell the people who may want to buy' the rocket aint going nowhere, and unfortunately I think Yaymicro may have employed the same marketing guru that LuckyOliver used, in which case they're using a telepathy marketing tactic.

goldenangel · « **Reply #42 on:** April 23, 2009, 18:27 »

Any signs of life on YAY Micro from anybody? I have no sales there but would like to see if anybody is actually making sales there?

Dreamframer · « **Reply #43 on:** April 23, 2009, 18:33 »

I have zero sales...

peep · « **Reply #44 on:** April 24, 2009, 03:54 »

Nothing here either... It was just a great deal of lost time...

ibogdan · « **Reply #45 on:** April 24, 2009, 07:06 »

One sale per month, january, february and march. I still wait for the april download especially now when I'm one of the lucky 5 who have images on YAY frontpage.
We'll see...

alfonsodetomas · « **Reply #46 on:** April 24, 2009, 07:08 »

I have two sales

astrocady · « **Reply #47 on:** April 24, 2009, 07:29 »

Still waiting for that first sale.

leaf · « **Reply #48 on:** April 24, 2009, 07:39 »

2 sales this month. pretty slow.

Magnum · « **Reply #49 on:** April 24, 2009, 07:41 »

Pretty slow for me as well... I´ve got a total of 0.2€ in Refferals

tan510jomast · « **Reply #50 on:** April 24, 2009, 07:54 »

when i started a year ago to start submitting to microstock , i thought it was so cool to get accepted by so many sites. YAY ! then as time passes by, i got a bit tired of that, and now, i am down to what? 5 ? 6 sites, hmm,.. not even that many.

i now do it in such a way that the more i see downloads, the more i upload ...
life is so much easier with less sites and only the ones that give me some results regularly.

i realise that as a newbie, one has to take time. but when you are already getting downloads with a couple of sites, why even bother trying anything else? time better spent in making more new images for the sites that sell for you, no?

as for the other reasoning that a new site will shoot like a bullet one day, that's what i believe too for winning the lottery

grandaded · « **Reply #51 on:** April 24, 2009, 10:32 »

One in January, nothing since ...

travismanley · « **Reply #52 on:** April 24, 2009, 12:08 »

I recently had a couple sales, 1 euro a sale is not bad. Uploading is really easy so I will probably stick around for awhile.

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #53 on:** May 06, 2009, 15:52 »

Quote from: averil on November 04, 2008, 15:33

I remember a time before Google. With the right formula, things can change very fast on the internet.

You remember the time before Google? Feels like there was no time before Google.
Oh I got a Euro back in July, I have 27 photos there.

melastmohican · « **Reply #54 on:** May 06, 2009, 16:02 »

It seems like all new site will fail and eventually will be assimilated by Getty. What was the movie where all restaurants were Taco Bell, Judge Dread?

litifeta · « **Reply #55 on:** May 06, 2009, 21:47 »

0 sales. At one point I would have loved to know the number of views, but I realise they would only be my own views.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #56 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:02 »

Website is super fast, and uploading system is easiest among all microstock sites. It's a real pleasure uploading to Yaymicro. Everything is so easy, intuitive and convenient, but....no sales.

sharpshot · « **Reply #57 on:** May 07, 2009, 07:20 »

I have 4 sales for 9 euros but I don't get the feeling this site is about to get better. How many of us will reach the payout level? So far albumo is the only site I have left but this one looks like joining them.

RaFaLe · « **Reply #58 on:** May 07, 2009, 08:08 »

Just joined today.
Yup - the site is awesome!
I love the AJAX and ow fast it is.

Really easy to use as well.

Good job guys! Let's work on those sales now

Lcjtripod · « **Reply #59 on:** May 07, 2009, 08:29 »

Quote from: Chris.Alleaume on May 07, 2009, 08:08

Just joined today.
Yup - the site is awesome!
I love the AJAX and ow fast it is.

Really easy to use as well.

Good job guys! Let's work on those sales now

SALES? What sales?
I was on there for 7 months with nearly 2,000 images and zip, nada, nothing for sales.
It is also easy to delete your port there which I did.
Great easy site to upload to but that is all.

-Larry

tan510jomast · « **Reply #60 on:** May 07, 2009, 09:15 »

yay, ya, like so many offsprings, all exciting and full of energy at the first go round, but no lasting power.
lots of talk but no action... like NATO (No Action Talk Only)

Lcjtripod · « **Reply #61 on:** May 07, 2009, 09:48 »

Quote from: tan510jomast on May 07, 2009, 09:15

yay, ya, like so many offsprings, all exciting and full of energy at the first go round, but no lasting power.
lots of talk but no action... like NATO (No Action Talk Only)

That is a good one to remember! Like NATO (No Action Talk Only)

Is that semi nude photo of you?

-Larry

travismanley · « **Reply #62 on:** May 07, 2009, 09:50 »

Quote from: melastmohican on May 06, 2009, 16:02

What was the movie where all restaurants were Taco Bell, Judge Dread?

I love that movie...Taco Bell too...im hungry

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #63 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:14 »

Quote from: Lcjtripod on May 07, 2009, 08:29

SALES? What sales?
I was on there for 7 months with nearly 2,000 images and zip, nada, nothing for sales.
It is also easy to delete your port there which I did.
Great easy site to upload to but that is all.

-Larry

Why did you take your images off?

Lcjtripod · « **Reply #64 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:35 »

Quote from: Komar on May 07, 2009, 10:14

Quote from: Lcjtripod on May 07, 2009, 08:29
SALES? What sales?
I was on there for 7 months with nearly 2,000 images and zip, nada, nothing for sales.
It is also easy to delete your port there which I did.
Great easy site to upload to but that is all.

-Larry

Why did you take your images off?

I'm going to be 72 years old this June ...... I don't think I will live another 50 years to get my first payout on Yay. Who knows it could take even longer than that!
-Larry

tan510jomast · « **Reply #65 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:39 »

Quote from: Lcjtripod on May 07, 2009, 09:48

Quote from: tan510jomast on May 07, 2009, 09:15
yay, ya, like so many offsprings, all exciting and full of energy at the first go round, but no lasting power.
lots of talk but no action... like NATO (No Action Talk Only)

That is a good one to remember! Like NATO (No Action Talk Only)

Is that semi nude photo of you?

-Larry

rofl, that 's my first sale on 123rf. hot , huh?

Quote from: Lcjtripod on May 07, 2009, 10:35

I'm going to be 72 years old this June ...... I don't think I will live another 50 years to get my first payout on Yay. Who knows it could take even longer than that!
-Larry

be careful what u wish for, Larry my friend. the oldest man in the world said the same thing 50 years ago, lol.... larry 72 in june and keeps on ticking like the energizer rabbit. i wish u long life and health, my friend.

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #66 on:** May 07, 2009, 10:54 »

Quote from: Lcjtripod on May 07, 2009, 10:35

Quote from: Komar on May 07, 2009, 10:14
Quote from: Lcjtripod on May 07, 2009, 08:29
SALES? What sales?
I was on there for 7 months with nearly 2,000 images and zip, nada, nothing for sales.
It is also easy to delete your port there which I did.
Great easy site to upload to but that is all.

-Larry

Why did you take your images off?

I'm going to be 72 years old this June ...... I don't think I will live another 50 years to get my first payout on Yay. Who knows it could take even longer than that!
-Larry

I never understand why people take their ports. off places after spending time putting them on. Yes I know they have an easy upload, but time was still spent. Plus its always good to have as many files online to get ur name about. If someone was browsing Yay, just checking out the site and saw ur photos, he might look for them elsewhere, with the agencies he usually uses. So basically it's more exposure, plus if Yay becomes good and that's always a possibility, ur photos are already sitting there, while others will be trying to upload their photos and getting frustrated with stupid rejection reasons.

null · « **Reply #67 on:** May 07, 2009, 13:12 »

Quote from: Chris.Alleaume on May 07, 2009, 08:08

Good job guys! Let's work on those sales now

YAY is not for sale - yet.

CCK · « **Reply #68 on:** February 24, 2010, 01:20 »

I decided to upload a batch again - and got a couple of rejections! Reason given was that the quality was not up to standard. I don't have a problem with that, except that the worst photos in the batch were accepted, and those already accepted by SS got rejected.

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