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Agency Based Discussion => Yaymicro => Topic started by: takestock on June 26, 2008, 03:11
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Just wondering how long you will give it at YAY micro before you decide to continue there.
I see people with a lot of images uploaded there and already asking about sales.
It's early days yes!, but it seems people have less patience now, having previously being "burnt" at other sites after many tedious hours of uploading which proved totally unfruitful.
I do wish YAY all the best - It's a slick and fast site and it would be great if it took off, but as we have seen before it's not easy for new sites to break into Microstock.
How about your views on this.
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None at all :)
I never bother uploading to a site until it proves itself to be worthwhile.
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about a year
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Ill keep uploading until Christmas!
If then no sales ill stop uploading and delete after next summer if there is still no action.
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about another 3 hours
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As long as it takes.
Unless they're misusing my images (which I doubt will happen) I don't see any point in - having uploaded them - withdrawing them at a later stage because they're not selling.
They'll never sell if I withdraw them.
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None at all :)
I never bother uploading to a site until it proves itself to be worthwhile.
Same with me. ;)
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Heh, but if everyone thought like that the site can never prove itself worthwhile, now would day :)
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I don't know why here is such a global furor about YAY?.. What I missed?
I registered and uploaded ~100 files a few weeks ago, have no one download and didn't notice any signs who separate YAY from other any new sites.
Best uploading and post processing system? I don't think so.
Best earnings per photo? It's normal for nowdays.
Best interface? No, imho.
Best personal account info? No. I miss some information I have on other sites.
Best marketing and most clients? I don't know... before I have regular downloads.
You say "but you have only 100 photos and here is only beginning...", but I say that with 100 files at least on 4 agencies (IS, SS, DT and FT) I had downloads on the very first days after uploading IN THE BEGINNING of these agencies.
So who knows this secret, why YAY is different and so good that I must upload thousands images without any signs of successful agency?
I don't ask rhetorical, really would appreciate any answer that I don't know yet maybe..
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I ususally dont upload to new sites. But I uploaded about 3100 images on Yay. I'll give them 6 months to prove they can earn me at least 30 euros per month (and that is bare minimum) to be worth the time spent. If not, I will pull out. I dont do this for hobby, my time is money, and I dont want to waste it.
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As long as it takes.
Unless they're misusing my images (which I doubt will happen) I don't see any point in - having uploaded them - withdrawing them at a later stage because they're not selling.
They'll never sell if I withdraw them.
wise words Bateleur ;)
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Why ever pull out??? stop uploading ok, but erase everything??? What can happen? In worst case nothing...
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Why ever pull out??? stop uploading ok, but erase everything??? What can happen? In worst case nothing...
By pulling out I want to punish the agency for not keeping the promise about good making money! LOL!
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Somebody said their marketing starts in September for some reason. So I'm content not to start complaining until November or so. Now that Lucky O is gone and Snap so far is a puzzling bust, I'll need someplace else to bitch about soon.
Just a matter of perspective. Some are giving the Cubs about 100 years.
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They have my portfolio (>1000 images) to date, I will upload more when I have time to spare. The more they sell of the ones they have, the more of the new ones they get, time is money, SY
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I concur with the majority here - I'll give them six months where I will continue to contribute images as I have them ready for the other Big 6 sites.
However, if there are zero sales after six months, I doubt if I will continue to take the time to upload.
I wish them well, but it is a crowded marketplace out there.....and there are only so many buyers.
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None at all :)
I never bother uploading to a site until it proves itself to be worthwhile.
Hear hear! After discovering that it would take me five more years to break even at FeaturePics with their current sales rate, I quit uploading to new, unproven sites. Time is money, and it's better spent not trying to help site after site get off the ground.
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I'm wondering how any of these new sites are going to steal the buyers away from the sites we are already uploading to? If the bottom of the big 6-7 are barely worth uploading to, how is a new player going to be worthwhile? Snap Village has been a big disappointment and look at their backing. Is it already to late for anyone else? Has anyone broke into the market since 123 or whoever was last?
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I am inthe process of uploading my portfolio to them. I think I will give them as long as it takes, based on a simple logic of "if your images are not present at a site, they have no chance of being sold there" . :)
Yay and MostPhoto are two new sites that I joined, mainly because I am tired of American Pesetas and these two pay in hard currency - €uros.
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What is the point of uploading the files if they are not sold? Even if I get a few sales, it is not worth it for few euros... It is pure waste of time. Maybe not if you have only 100-200 images... but if we are talking about 3000-4000 or more, than I have good reason to stop uploading until I see some real sales. I stoped uploading on Yay about 15 days ago, and I wont upload again utnil I see some sales. And not just random ones in every 15 days, but rather on a daily basis. They promised a good sales, and I expect them to sell my images like other sites. I dont care if they are new or not, they gave a promise. No excuses, if no money, no images. I dont play games, by the end of the year I will pull out my port. if they dont start doing business. So far, YAY is image storage site, not image selling site, at least for me. Not happy.
I'm already a member at a bunch of other sites. Why should I bother with yet another one?
Because it's dead easy money. You upload the photos, we get the customers, you get money.
But seriously, there are already a bunch of microstock sites? Why do we need another one?
Most of the sites in the microstock-industry have issues that both customers and contributors don't like. That might be strange policies, difficult upload processes, weird rejections, not a focused marketing or customer profile, low commissions, confusing websites and a lack of transparency. You won't find that here. We will tell you who we are, what we are doing and why we are doing it. The commissions will be fair, both for individual sales and for subscriptions. The website will be easy for contributors and even easier for customers.
We are aware of the fact that microstock is not as easy, new and exciting as it was a couple of years ago. Still there are huge possibilites by developing a better website, having better procedures and, most importantly, expanding the business model of microstock to other types of digital media.
But customers are already used to other microstock-sites. Right?
Wrong. Microstock is still an industry with strong growth. Talking to potential customers, we've been surprised at how few actually know what microstock is. There are also new market segments that has yet to exploit the full potential of microstock, most notably bloggers. We believe that an easier site with the kind of flexibility a small company can offer, has the potential to get a favourable reputation both among customers and contributors.
With the right strategy we will prove that microstock can be done better!
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If you have 3-4000 images and take away all the ones you have with the big 6. How many is left? Iīm kinda new with this. but why would anyone pay more at Yay than SS. We gotta be more exclusive if we wanna sell at midstock sites. Am I wrong?
Maybe some of belives that there still is buyers that donīt want cheap crap:)
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*, they haven't overtaken istock for sales in their first few days, what a loser site ??? ???.
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, they haven't overtaken istock for sales in their first few days, what a loser site ??? ???.
they dont have to overtake BIG6, but at least 1 sale per day would be acceptable. not 1 sale every 3 months.
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Any time spent on Yaymicro would be better spent creating lightboxes on IS and SS
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Any time spent on Yaymicro would be better spent creating lightboxes on IS and SS
How do you create a lightbox at SS? ??? SY
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only 1 sale so far at YaY. It's got potential though...who knows. I'll keep dumping my work on it because its just so easy.
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Todd you were a big LO fan too. Maybe thats an ominous sign for Yaymicro!
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If you have 3-4000 images and take away all the ones you have with the big 6. How many is left? Iīm kinda new with this. but why would anyone pay more at Yay than SS. We gotta be more exclusive if we wanna sell at midstock sites. Am I wrong?
Maybe some of belives that there still is buyers that donīt want cheap crap:)
With so many millions of images per site I wouldn't worry that your image is priced differently on different sites. It's impossible for people to have a perfect knowledge of this market place. To shop price for a specific image across these sites would be a huge waste of time. If your image is NOT on a given site you won't make that sale, whatever the price.
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Not long..
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Not sure how much advertising they have done. Did anyone of you come across a yay ad ? Online or print ?
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I'm not making any predictions - I recently pulled the plug on new uploads to Canstock, because I can't see wasting the time uploading files every day to a site that doesn't produce for me.
If I don't see any more sales in the next couple of months on Yay, I'll probably stop uploading. Time is money, and I just don't have the time to dump my efforts into sites that don't produce.
Could Yay be another Lucky Oliver? Sure. I still made at least $300 in image sales off of them though. It's not much, but I have no regrets with jumping on board with Lucky Oliver. You take a chance...but it's not that big of a chance. What do you have to lose with a site thats a dump and click? I'm on Fotomind as well - only had one sale there so far, but I'm being patient for now.
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Has anyone had a sale yet? I might upload this week if they have.
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Hi
I have had no sales,i have stopped uploading
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No sales, deleted portfolio
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They showed a lot of promise right up until the minute they opened for business, after that it's all gone quiet.
It's not rocket science, why do so many of these sites think they will get sales just by being there, agressive marketing is the only way to become a success.
Yay have missed the boat, why open for business but wait a few months before starting your marketing campaign, they've completely lost their USP.
I wonder if their first ad will be along the lines of:
'Yaymicro - we opened a few months ago, we're not getting any sales and now people are deleting their portfolios, come take a look'
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I would much prefer they advertised from the start but I think it is too quick to start deleting now. Might as well see if they do something after the summer holidays. I will give them until Christmas.
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I don't remember the specifics, but I think they wrote they would begin advertising in the Autumn when they had amassed enough images to attract customers. It might be wasteful to do an advertising blitz now with only 250,000 images online.
I was browsing through the Shutterstock forum recently, looking at posts from a few years ago. Plenty of people talking about the lack of sales, and how they were going to pull their ports. Honestly, how many sites have sold a decent amount of images in their first 3 months online?
I have no idea if Yay will be a success. Frankly the odds suggest they will fail, just like other recent start-ups. But they just went online a month ago. If you were this impatient, why did you upload in the first place? My stance has been that I wanted to see advertising by Autumn, and at least a few sales by late Autumn. If not, I'm gone. But I'm at least waiting for them to follow the time table they drew out for us.
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I never uploaded to them. After Albumo fiasco (I still delete my images one by day) I stopped to waste my tiime with all new sites with "fresh approach" but without money. I pulled my portfolio from Crestock, Canstock. Glad that LO is no more there. I can live only with IS, SS, StockXpert and macro.