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« on: April 24, 2020, 04:21 »
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I closed my account about a year ago.
I asked them to pay what they owed me, but they never did.
Yesterday I received this email from them:

Hello, hello!

Here at the newly formed YayImages, along with new owners and management (working from home), we are undergoing some changes.

As one of our valued contributors, we would like you to be the first to know about some new initiatives at Yay.

First, customers can now purchase your images and vectors for $4.99 each, on our refreshed website.

We are seeing strong traffic and sales growth with the new single sales model as customers start to prefer paying for what they need, when they need it.  Some contributors are starting to see average image sale prices move up.

Second, as you know, we are refreshing our contributor dashboard and moving more services away from yaymicro, to the new https://contributors.yayimages.com/ dashboard.

Third, we are launching video footage single sales. The pricing model will be single sales only, customers pay for what they need, when they need it. We will share commissions on a 50/50 basis.

Pricing for video single sales, will be as follows:
      SD: $49
      HD: $59
      4K: $149

The first step you need to take to become a video contributor, is to login to the contributor dashboard and request approval.

Once approved, you will be able to easily send your mp4 and mov source files, through sftp.

With the current stay-at-home measures around the world & the work from home movement, we're seeing a high number of requests for video content.

Click here to login and request approval to become a video contributor.

Stay safe!

Together in photography,
Alex @ the YayImages Team


« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2020, 04:32 »
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So the worse an agency treats you the more you will do marketing for them.

« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2020, 05:40 »
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So the worse an agency treats you the more you will do marketing for them.

?????????????

I just shared some news, isn't that what you're supposed to do on a forum like this?
Also if the name of the site is the same it seems that the owners and managers are different (which remains to be proven).
« Last Edit: April 24, 2020, 05:43 by Chichikov »

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2020, 06:13 »
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So the worse an agency treats you the more you will do marketing for them.

?????????????

I just shared some news, isn't that what you're supposed to do on a forum like this?
Also if the name of the site is the same it seems that the owners and managers are different (which remains to be proven).

The new owners / management might be willing to pay outstanding revenue.

« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2020, 06:15 »
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So the worse an agency treats you the more you will do marketing for them.

?????????????

I just shared some news, isn't that what you're supposed to do on a forum like this?
Also if the name of the site is the same it seems that the owners and managers are different (which remains to be proven).

Agreed - like them or not - it is a 'newsworthy' post and worth a conversation.  If you don't like them for whatever reason, you can feel free to share why not as well.

« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2020, 06:41 »
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So the worse an agency treats you the more you will do marketing for them.

?????????????

I just shared some news, isn't that what you're supposed to do on a forum like this?
Also if the name of the site is the same it seems that the owners and managers are different (which remains to be proven).

Agreed - like them or not - it is a 'newsworthy' post and worth a conversation.  If you don't like them for whatever reason, you can feel free to share why not as well.

He's posted the exact same thing in 2 threads. The same person posting the same news in different threads is regarded as spamming. I have shared in great detail both on msg and in my blog why I don't like Yay. They are unscrupulous.

georgep7

« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2020, 08:24 »
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unscrupulous

A new word for me, googling it i think it goes for most agencies.

Let's give them the benefit of "new administration" before judging them.

I like the video related message part:

The pricing model will be single sales only, customers pay for what they need, when they need it. We will share commissions on a 50/50 basis.

Pricing for video single sales, will be as follows:
      SD: $49
      HD: $59
      4K: $149

« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2020, 10:44 »
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So the worse an agency treats you the more you will do marketing for them.

?????????????

I just shared some news, isn't that what you're supposed to do on a forum like this?
Also if the name of the site is the same it seems that the owners and managers are different (which remains to be proven).

Agreed - like them or not - it is a 'newsworthy' post and worth a conversation.  If you don't like them for whatever reason, you can feel free to share why not as well.

He's posted the exact same thing in 2 threads. The same person posting the same news in different threads is regarded as spamming. I have shared in great detail both on msg and in my blog why I don't like Yay. They are unscrupulous.

I posted it in another thread that talked about the closing of Yay, a threat that had been inactive for several months.
For this reason I thought it would be interesting to open a new dedicated thread with a more comprehensible title.
After that there are those who can understand and trolls for whom the only reason to exist on this forum is to criticize other users of the forum
Have a nice day!

« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2020, 10:51 »
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unscrupulous

A new word for me, googling it i think it goes for most agencies.

Let's give them the benefit of "new administration" before judging them.


First of all for some reason they are trying to spin that they are newly formed. Yayimages is not newly formed, they have been around at least 4 years if not longer. 4 years is by no stretch of the imagination newly formed.

New management/owner? On their old site yaymicro they still show the same management as usual. In the whois information on both sites they are hidden behind Godaddy's privacy protection. So they pay $30 a year to hide themselves.

@Chichikov Would that $30 cover what they owe you?

« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2020, 10:53 »
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It was 'Yay Micro' !  now it's 'Yay Images' !!

Had the sam email, twice ! (not a good sign)  and as they did next to nothing before, I doubt they will now ;)  Not holding breath !! 

 8)

« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2020, 10:57 »
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unscrupulous

A new word for me, googling it i think it goes for most agencies.

Let's give them the benefit of "new administration" before judging them.

I like the video related message part:

The pricing model will be single sales only, customers pay for what they need, when they need it. We will share commissions on a 50/50 basis.

Pricing for video single sales, will be as follows:
      SD: $49
      HD: $59
      4K: $149

Currently I don't have any more pictures on this site, I removed everything about a year ago and asked to be paid. Which never happened.
On the other hand my earnings are still active on the site.
I've always been, very critical of Yay and their way of doing things (or more exactly of not doing things), and those who have read my comments about this site know it very well (so when the first idiot who comes by says I'm advertising to them it freaks me out a bit...)
It seems to me however that this new offer could be interesting, and in any case not less interesting than those offered by many other sites.
Today Pond5 is selling off our videos and I don't even want to talk about the prices practiced by agencies like Shutterstock or Getty...
Right now the big question is: "Is this really serious?"
Moreover, as far as I'm concerned, I wonder if it's really worth wasting time to reload photos and videos, and in what quantity, knowing very well that on this kind of site the quantity is important if you want to have any chance to earn money...

georgep7

« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2020, 11:28 »
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@MicrostockPosts, we all look positive for a fresh profitable start, no sub sales
50/50 split, empty video libraries to fill first with our work etc etc. 
Here is one of my native local words / phrases
"nothing comes /is born from parthenogenesis"
meaning that nothing comes out of nothing, from a virgin ground,
rather using or transforming old materials, as seen elsewhere, evolved.
IS there any other escape plan from <$5 video sub sales?

Guess Chichikov made the correct point:

Quote
Right now the big question is: "Is this really serious?"

What seems interesting to me is that they "open" the gates to video up to 4K
meaning they have made space and arrangements to curate and accept (?)
a large amount of files. Or a handpicked boutique of selected? Who knows.
In one hand I like them mentioning "we see a demand on videos"
and the "work from home new culture" they don't cry, they see an oportunity
plus the pricing and selling method they choosed.

On the other hand I keep the word you used "unscrupulous"
because you are also correct, an agency might say A and do B. Time will tell.

« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2020, 13:21 »
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First of all for some reason they are trying to spin that they are newly formed. Yayimages is not newly formed, they have been around at least 4 years if not longer. 4 years is by no stretch of the imagination newly formed.

I registered 2008/03/20...   so, more than 12 years ago... you don't know anything about them and should keep your statements for yourself.

« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2020, 14:13 »
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They still owe me money from 12 years ago...

« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2020, 14:21 »
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First of all for some reason they are trying to spin that they are newly formed. Yayimages is not newly formed, they have been around at least 4 years if not longer. 4 years is by no stretch of the imagination newly formed.

I registered 2008/03/20...   so, more than 12 years ago... you don't know anything about them and should keep your statements for yourself.

I know that they are not a "newly formed" company. You need to ask them why they are trying to spin it that way. Yayimages was actually registered in 2009-04-16 but they only actively used it since they switched from Yaymicro about 4 or 5 years ago..

I also know that they are a microstock site which uses privacy protection on their domains to hide their details from the public which very few microstock sites feel the need to do.

« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2020, 14:24 »
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They still owe me money from 12 years ago...

In this short thread already 2 people have said Yay owe them money.
Even Cutcaster is paying out and they will be closing on Saturday.

« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2020, 15:21 »
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Closed my account about five years ago, i have no regrets :)

H2O

« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2020, 08:57 »
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I keep getting emails from them and I logged into a account that I set up in 2012, and much to my surprise I have $ 4.57, can't find any images so I must have deleted them.

But I do keep getting emails, does anyone ever get any sales on this site?

As I am considering uploading.

« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2020, 09:36 »
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As I am considering uploading.

I wouldn't.  I've had a few sales recently, with royalties between .05 and .12.  I asked them to close my account; the response was suggesting that I upload more in hope of increased sales.  Nope, not gonna happen.

« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2020, 19:40 »
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I've been with at first YayMicro and then integrating into YayImages for about 10 years.
I have had a couple of payments from yaymicro / yayimages with a portfolio under 2,000 pics so far.
I don't like it when agencies don't pay but, I've only had it happen to me at Crestock (that just recently is going through bankruptcy and being acquired by Designpics.com If you know anything about designpics please let me know, thanks) so far and that video site, Revostock or something like it? Sorry for your mentioned losses.
I like that YayImages opened up to video with a 50% commission, although pic sales are low in volume and commissions. And, I surely wish they would raise them more, but as they say video sales are now possible with what they are seeing and saying. Might be worth a try?
Nicole Glass, micro stocker/Youtuber, https://www.youtube.com/user/nicoleglass01 , said she was seeing more increased sales on Pond5 with more additions recently so there might be a correlation? Video was said to increase last few years now. Maybe it'd be good to create more video content? I'm working on it.
I don't like the usually very low commission pictures but, they have been selling more recently from what I have seen in yayimages.
I'm not closing my account any time soon and am thinking about uploading some videos to them to see if there are any sales. Best good to everyone.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2020, 19:52 by WaterView »

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  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2020, 09:38 »
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I started uploading to Yay about two months ago after I heard they were under new leadership. I also noticed these 5c and 9c sales which seemed to contradict the story about their 50% commission to contributors. I got an answer this morning from their Director of Marketing - these are from legacy accounts that they are closing down. The new pricing plans would have a minimum payment of 25c. His full response is in my blog post.

He also said their FTP for images is overloaded and they are trying to fix that. The one for video is newer technology and working well and I'm currently uploading my videos to them. I don't know how they will do with sales but they have been very helpful to me over the past few days.

The full article is here: https://backyardsilver.com/yay-images-update/

Steve

« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2020, 12:13 »
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Ive gone through their website but couldn't find any information about submitting videos or video technical requirements. I only found info on submitting stills. I wonder if they accept editorial videos (though I do plan on selling my editorial clips as exclusive on Pond 5.)

steheap

  • Author of best selling "Get Started in Stock"

« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2020, 14:13 »
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You need to apply for submitting videos (they don't sell them to the public yet). I understand that they are likely to take some appropriate editorial images and videos but it might be on a contributor by contributor basis depending on what they think might be in demand.

Steve

« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2020, 22:47 »
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You need to apply for submitting videos (they don't sell them to the public yet). I understand that they are likely to take some appropriate editorial images and videos but it might be on a contributor by contributor basis depending on what they think might be in demand.

Steve

Ah thankyou for the info. I noted last night that they were promoting stock footage on their website. I'd probably submit commercial videos to them and send my editorial clips to P5 as exclusive.


 

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