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« on: August 06, 2008, 10:05 »
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Hi gang, I just wanted to report that I have had my first sale at Zymmetrical:  selling price $21, royalty paid to me was $14.70 (I may be a few cents off).   I have very few photos on their site, perhaps 4 dozen.  I really like the way they are doing things - and am willing to invest in this new site.  (Had already intended to update my port before such a nice sale).   

P.S.  It's my last time at a computer till next week if there's any comments to this post.


« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2008, 10:57 »
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Congratulations on the sale.

« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 12:04 »
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Congrats on the sale.  I have 186 there and no downloads.  I have had 2 downloads with cutcaster when I had less images uploaded and for less time.  Looks like cutcaster will get my portfolio before zymmetrical.  I would be more motivated to upload there if I had a few sales.

I still can only change the price on one image at a time and have to wait 8 days to do the next one.  I am not uploading any more until that is changed.

« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2008, 15:28 »
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2008, 08:47 »
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Wow, a week later and another sale on Zymmetrical this morning.  Normally I wouldn't be so excited about 2 sales on a new site; but, these are pretty significant sales when you compare them to what the micros are paying.  Sales of $56 have earned me $39.20. 

Sidenote:  If that was Istock, and they sold $56 I would have received $11.20. 

This leads my next connundrum.  Pricing.  I preferred it when Zymmetrical applied the price, but now we set our own and I am not always confident what it should be.   I guess I'll stick with the 15-35 range are as it doesn't seem to deter the buyers.

I really like the way this site is progressing (even without the sales, but that makes me like it more!).  And they are still in beta.  Who are their buyers? 

« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2008, 09:24 »
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Wow, a week later and another sale on Zymmetrical this morning.  Normally I wouldn't be so excited about 2 sales on a new site; but, these are pretty significant sales when you compare them to what the micros are paying.  Sales of $56 have earned me $39.20. 
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 And they are still in beta. Who are their buyers
Maybe Zymmetrical staff ? 39.20$ for this kind of ads is not very expensive.
I start to be paranoiac... ;)

« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2008, 09:39 »
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Hehe - I thought of that too... but they can use our photos as they like in promos can't they, why would they pay?  The only one I thought I was ever paid for promos from was LO.

« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 09:49 »
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Hehe - I thought of that too... but they can use our photos as they like in promos can't they, why would they pay
Whooow effect. Without money no reason to post on MSG. Then everybody starts uploading to the site, dreaming of 56$ sales ;D
« Last Edit: August 13, 2008, 10:14 by rene »

« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2008, 10:48 »
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 ;D So for once it has paid for me to be a blababoosh. ;D Keep giving me sells, I'll keep blabbin!     

Kidding aside, the payout is $10 so I'll even be able to cash out this month.   This will be the next test!

« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2008, 12:16 »
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I don't really get the new upload.... I liked it better when I didn't have to do anything myself :) What happens if I submit photos and don't do categories and price?? Will staff do it for me when reviewing?

zymmetricaldotcom

« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2008, 12:57 »
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Moori, yes actually I wanted to point that out because Pixart seemed to misinterpret it - you (at this point least) only have to have the minimum 10 tags for it to accept the submission onto a Pending status.     Category and Price are optional.    If you don't pick them, our Reviewers will.

Lorraine, here is perhaps a clue: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=buy+stock+photos&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2. Of course we can't elaborate on what we do to get buyers on this board in particular. :)           

« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2008, 13:34 »
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Hey, number one search placement on Yahoo!  And not bad on Google either, top 5. 

And, thanks for pointing out the tip.  I'll leave the pricing up to your team in the future.  This will make your fast upload super fast for me.

« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2008, 16:56 »
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Thanks for your fast reply Keith!  Time to push a couple more pictures through then =)

« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2008, 16:37 »
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I wanted to bring this thread back up to mention that I requested my first Zym payment before lunch and received it this afternoon.  Wow, that's fast.  Zymmetrical does not have mass pay so Paypal users log in and request payment (an invoice).  This results in a Paypal fee, but it is not so hard to swallow, considering that they pay 70% commission.

I had 3 sales in total last month.  Either the third sale was a buyer who saw the photo on the new splash page, or I was compensated for splash page placement.  *But I wasn't for one in the spring - either policy has changed - or so it may well be a buyer after all.

Canadians:  is this a service or goods transaction?  Am I supposed to pay GST?  I don't deal with GST with Istock, but I don't invoice them, either.


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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2008, 17:11 »
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Hi Lorraine,

Sorry we do know it's not so slick with the Paypal payout request method currently. I will leave it at: we have something much, much better being inked at this moment. As for the taxation, all I know is we pay Victoria our dues and further than that I would not want to advise, not knowing the specifics of the rules outside BC with great clarity. Your accountant should be able to advise best.

Splash page placements are not compensated directly, other than that they get 10 gazillion times more views then sub-pages thus (as it seems) result in some impulse buys. This time around we let each of the reviewers pick their single favorite for the homepage slideshow, so it should be a hot selection from the people who 'see it all' and know what buyers want.

btw. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22buy+stock+photos%22&btnG=Search & http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22sell+stock+photos%22&btnG=Search
.. a little progress. :)
« Last Edit: September 11, 2008, 17:17 by zymmetrical »

« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2008, 20:19 »
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Thanks for the info Keith!   I thought I should post how fast it was for all the new-site-skeptics, especially after Photoshelter's news today.

And double thanks for the splash placement. 

« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2008, 10:24 »
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Keith if you are out there, I noticed $ in my account yesterday, but the sales manager button leads to or sticks on my account page and in the past it led to a list of recent sales.  (Hopefully it's a real sale and a broken sales manager ;) )

I've had some problems recently and this morning with searches.  Many critical errors or 0 results.  Now I tried again 10 minutes later and it worked perfectly so that tells me it is only intermittent.  I just report this because it's enough to turn me off and come back later - except I will always come back and a new buyer may not.  I use Explorer if that helps.

Many (not all) of my photos have just script and x boxes when I click through.  I noticed that a couple weeks ago when the canola photo was first featured on the splash page - but  I checked again and today it is still just script.  I could swear there was a post here on MSG about this subject but I can't find the answer, maybe I'm supposed to send a ticket with file #s?: 

Thanks!

gbcimages

« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2008, 11:14 »
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seems like a lot of you are having problems with the site ,that's one reason why I closed my account a while back. it's taken way to long to get things right. Not good business at all

« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 11:45 »
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They are still in Beta my friend.  I don't support many new sites, but I'll be sticking with them.

gbcimages

« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 11:52 »
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I'll give a site a chance, I usualley stay with a site for a year.it seems like they have been in beta for quite some time. I hope it works out for you guys 

zymmetricaldotcom

« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2008, 12:11 »
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Hi Lorraine,

Thanks for pointing that out. I know the precise reason why that page output problem was occurring and it should be fixed now. It was a little tweak designed to decrease the pageload time, but the pages were clearly getting ahead of themselves. We are working hard on an entirely new photo page design with and that type of rendering problem will not be an issue in the system, due next week.

For the intermittent problem you experienced, we are adding and changing things daily so once in a while there will be hiccups. They all get logged and prioritized in our bug tracker, and then fixed - but thanks for pointing this out. It may better if you report incidents like this in our own Site Suggestions forum on Zymm, where it is centralized and read by everyone in the firm.

thanks


Keith if you are out there, I noticed $ in my account yesterday, but the sales manager button leads to or sticks on my account page and in the past it led to a list of recent sales.  (Hopefully it's a real sale and a broken sales manager ;) )

I've had some problems recently and this morning with searches.  Many critical errors or 0 results.  Now I tried again 10 minutes later and it worked perfectly so that tells me it is only intermittent.  I just report this because it's enough to turn me off and come back later - except I will always come back and a new buyer may not.  I use Explorer if that helps.

Many (not all) of my photos have just script and x boxes when I click through.  I noticed that a couple weeks ago when the canola photo was first featured on the splash page - but  I checked again and today it is still just script.  I could swear there was a post here on MSG about this subject but I can't find the answer, maybe I'm supposed to send a ticket with file #s?: 

Thanks!
« Last Edit: September 24, 2008, 12:41 by zymmetrical »

« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2008, 13:40 »
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It may better if you report incidents like this in our own Site Suggestions forum on Zymm, where it is centralized and read by everyone in the firm.

But I tried the forum thing twice in the past and both times was unanswered  :'(  But you are right, I should post there.

P.S.  Did you see the question about not getting into my sales manager?  I can't see what was sold, but am as excited as always to see 13 bucks on the top of the page.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2008, 13:42 by Pixart »

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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2008, 13:49 »
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Ah yes sorry - we had a pesky bug that would go through and remove the "-" dashes from the URLs of some page names, whenever some routine updates were made.   The URL in the top part of the page has "sales-manager" whereas the current URL is http://www.zymmetrical.com/account/salesmanager/. If you hit that link you should be in.

p.s. The forum has been spiffed up this week: http://www.zymmetrical.com/info.  Lots of improvements, including the way notifications are handled - which would I guess why you're questions there may have been missed.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2008, 13:54 by zymmetrical »

« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2008, 14:36 »
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Thanks, that link works.  Looking at my sold photos you must have Cargil or Vitera or Louis Dreyfus as a client  :D

« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2008, 14:49 »
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It is good to see some sales happening, I hope it continues.  One day a new site is going to make it big and kill off all those posts about avoiding new sites :)


 

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