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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2008, 06:59 »
Hello Keith,

I uploaded recently some pictures choosing the initial price but when the pictures did not have the price I entered. Also I still have the same problem to change price on the art manager: it can only change the price of one picture....


« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2008, 07:16 »

The Reviewers would normally not override the price selected by you, unless they have some specific knowledge that a photo could move better at a different price. Can you tell me what the original price you set was and what the set price was?

Aside from a deliberate price change, there is also the possibility that you or the Reviewers applied the price accidentally with the new batch interface: it is definitely easy to select some files and leave some options checkmarked unintentionally, everyone can do this from time to time.

For the Art Manager, it is getting an upgrade like the Submissions page within the coming weeks: batch pricing options, along with live statistics to help you make choices about price and keyword changes. For now if it is giving you grief, I would simply avoid using it (Doctors favorite advice).

« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2008, 07:25 »
Thanks Keith for the reply, I choose between  $ 20 and 25, some end up at $5 instead. I will wait for the new version to change the prices then


« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2008, 08:22 »
Ok we would definitely not have priced down - the idea is to get away from Microstock pricing and not closer. :)   As my previous guess was, I think it must have been either our team or you accidentally leaving a checkbox on when not intended.  If you shoot a PM with the file ID's I could price them up in the meantime.

« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2008, 08:52 »
Cheer Keith I will PM you when my upload queue had been cleared

« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2008, 07:57 »
Ok thanks to Zymm I will have a big for x-mas  ;D


« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2008, 08:14 »
Sorry to ruin xmas, but that is an incorrect figure   As you can see the main sales report details page is being actively worked on.. looks like it's affected the summary area. The figure on your dashboard $65.10 is the correct amount owed.   

I will find the missing decimal it looks like it's sleeping in today.

« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2008, 08:28 »
damnit :( Well I had a $ 20 sale then so that's good, just hit my first payout on Zym :)
Thanks for the update Keith

« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2008, 10:40 »
I had the same experiance. 4033 dollar for me  ;D ;D ;D


« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2008, 10:45 »
Should be fixed now.  8)

« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2008, 11:39 »

I was keeping that in secret, hoping I would be able to cash my money too.  Bummer!  :)


« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2008, 11:41 »
ha ha  ;D


« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2008, 11:44 »
Well we do have Extended licensing in the works so such figures may not be a dream in the future.   I am sad to say we have had to deny customers in the past who had inquired regarding EL's so it's a big priority.       

« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2008, 13:45 »
I think I got the first sale there today, but I'm not sure since the sales manager web page is under construction.

« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2008, 15:13 »
Yeah, it was my first sale :) It was a small size picture so no payout for me yet, but Im patient :)

« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2008, 15:36 »
congratulation to your first sale at zym.
I like them...  especially for the easy upload process.
and for me the sales are better then at bigstock.

the only annoying thing is that I had some problems with the "Methode A - Batch Photo Upload" during the last days....

« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2008, 15:48 »
Thanks gunnar3000 :)

Yeah I had the same problem, so I'm using FTP upload now. Works well except for a long time it takes for photos to be moved to the describe queue.


« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2008, 11:11 »
Good stuff guys..  just to let you know we've turned off uploading till Dec. 15 (FTP and the web methods) for a couple reasons:

- Like you pointed out, it's not perfectly smooth with either FTP or the Flash uploader. We need to do some stress testing to find the weak links in the chain and fix 'em.. unfortunately it's become impractical to have 100% realistic test environment with that area of things (anyone who licenses expensive software knows this pain), so the only answer is to take the live uploading offline for a bit so we can rough it up and make it spill the beans as to why it's giving people grief sometimes.     

- Although our Reviewers have been doing an amazing job thus far, and we have been getting better at training and getting additional Reviewers in when needed, there has been a backlog in particular in the Graphics dept.  We need to focus on neglected files that have been waiting too long and get this spare tire around the queue's waist into shape.         

..  Dec. 15 is an absolute latest date for this, i'm sure we will accomplish our goals sooner.   Thanks for your patience as we take this needed breather to give it a post-launch tuneup.

« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2008, 07:23 »
No sales for around one year   :-\
Gosh, I have sales even on StockRiot!!!

« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2008, 07:59 »
hey nata_rass,

may be its a question of pricing your images. may I ask which price do you select on zym for your images?

I usualy select the lowest possible price (3$) in order to compete with other images... but I am not sure whether this is the right strategy.


« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2008, 08:04 »
Took me 3 sales to reach the first payout, I like Zymm so far!


« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2008, 08:18 »
It is unfortunate that you have no sales, may ask I,

- have you contacted us in this one year period to ask what can be done to improve visibility of your existing portfolio
- have you linked to Zymmetrical to help bring new buyers
- have you asked us or members who do have sales what themes are indeed selling
- have you uploaded fresh content in small batches to help with visibility
- have you had a disproportionate number of rejected photos, which can negatively affect your ranking

Now I am aware there is pretty popular feeling that people do not want to 'find out what this or that new agency wants', because they haven't earned you money yet.  I get the feeling some people would be more inclined to play the gambling machines in Vegas than to take methodical, coordinated look at how to build an earnings base in the 'midstock' arena.  Presenting a checklist of actions to take is probably the last thing you want to see.

The carpet-bomb upload strategy that seems to apply with subscription agencies, will not work as well in midstock. If a buyer is going to shell out $60 for a photo, to get the photo they want directly on target, you need laser-guided intelligence, and that comes from having your team on the ground guiding that sale in.  If you consider that there are many members, with a similar portfolio size as you, that are making regular sales in the price range of $10 - $70, then the question needs to be asked, what is different about their portfolios than yours.

I am not aware of any major DSLR with an agency-specific mode dial setting- if you are reading this forum, you are a probably already a great photographer, you have the ability to technically and conceptually shoot most anything. From everything I know, the vast, vast majority of Microstockers have to actually perform a great deal of hustling to get their monthly payouts, and not very many are ready to cash out for that summer home in the south of France or a new boat.  If you are ready to work with us to increase sales, we are always here.


« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2008, 08:26 »

Since a lot of your port is isolated objects, I personally (and I sure our Review staff too) feel that you are on the right track to down-price a bit due to the lack of complexity. $3 for me though is bit low, for those shots of business graphs/dominos etc.  They are fairly unique and while probably cheap to create on the production side, they pack a punch because they are relevant to one of todays most important themes, the economy.

I think you could go to the $10 or $15 range and not decrease sales. In fact, everything I know about selling tells me, it's always worth going for a higher price once in a while as an experiment. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Maybe you won't have enough sales volume in a niche to be able to accurately A/B test, in which case you are better off using your best judgment to set a median price.

That being said.. we hope to get the new Art Manager online this week, so the bulk price changing will be simpler.

« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2008, 07:46 »
zymmetrical, WOW  :o
I will contact support soon. Thank you very much!

If you could outline the major preferences of Zymm-buyers in this topic, it would be very usefull for all of us. Probably, the content I submit is not really needed  :-\

« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2008, 14:10 »
- have you had a disproportionate number of rejected photos, which can negatively affect your ranking

This is good to know. Now I am sorry that I had a few rejections because I did not submit the model release properly. The other time, I also had keywords from two different images bundled together and then two rejections because of irrelevant keywords.

I also had two images shown in my portfolio that did not belong to me, but they were displaying keywords from my images. Upon contacting support, they got disabled. I hope these don't count in my rejections as well....

Perhaps the ranking dependency on rejections should be disabled for a while until all contributors get to know the site, its policies and interface, and until the site is stable enough so that these kinds of mishaps don't happen...

Just my two cents as I really like the site, and I think it can become quite successful.



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