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Zymmetrical is now closed
sharpshot:
There are several sites that I think will probably fold but I have no regrets using them. Lucky Oliver and Zymmetrical have gone but it didn't take long for me to upload my portfolio and they both made me some money. I would feel much worse not using sites like these, as none of them will ever make it without our support and we will be stuck complaining about the big 6 cutting commissions and forcing us in to cheap subs. Several months last year, Zymmetrical were in my top 6 sites, those EL commissions were great, so I am sad to see them go but there are no bad feelings.
zymmetricaldotcom:
--- Quote from: mantonino on January 09, 2010, 21:40 ---Sorry - my intent isn't to bash Zym - I had no issue with their site or program or anything. My message was about looking forward to other agencies and seeing what they saying and doing to get ahead overall. No disrespect to Zym but if 300% traffic increases don't help a site get sales enough to stay afloat we have to be cautious with ANY new/flailing site.
Again, no disrespect to Zym - sorry about that - it's about sites that will fail going forward and how we may be able to spot it before we spend hours uploading.
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No worries Matt - i'm sure whatever stats were quoted back then were true, but in terms of how it really matters it is indeed debatable. In fact, in our final 3 months of operation traffic nearly tripled across our country domains - in reality however for an image agency, traffic can have little bearing on sales. Especially if you add "free" stuff or get indexed heavily in Google for random keyword searches, and you'll get a lot of non-converting traffic.
It's more than just the economy, there's always different choices that could have been made.. but have a look at this (click the green "play" button on the map) to an almost perfect chronological representation of the stress level experienced in work vs. return with Zymm: http://www.slate.com/id/2216238/ - whether Artists liked our submissions page or debated our editorial policies, has very very little to do with the reality of doing business in these times, especially when trying to start an "upmarket" brand.
willie:
is it true that you will get paid ?
i had one sale of 6 dollars , i think, can't recall, too long ago. i was encouraged to increase my uploads then, and in fact had over 50 images waiting to be uploaded to zymm at that time, but it was plagued with design problem, being off line, etc..
that i gave up going back to see when they were actually online.
after reading this thread that they pay you even if you did not reach payout, i checked my mail but only found a closeup payout by corbis for 30 cents which i gather was from SV or something, but it is not definitely from zymm, as i don't remember corbis buying zymm.
zymmetricaldotcom:
Yes that is true. Payout limits were an administrative overhead construct, if there's nothing to administrate then it's your money. If you believe you were missed on the payout, please send an email to info (at ) zymmetrical.com from your registered account email.
willie:
--- Quote from: zymmetrical on January 10, 2010, 11:30 ---Yes that is true. Payout limits were an administrative overhead construct, if there's nothing to administrate then it's your money. If you believe you were missed on the payout, please send an email to info (at ) zymmetrical.com from your registered account email.
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thx Keith,
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