Quote from: cthoman on February 02, 2018, 17:12
I assume it is this now from what people are saying.

0 – 1,999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

2,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

Well, I'm at 1400 and level 2.

Quote from: Asthebelltolls on February 02, 2018, 18:24
....and of course, you all now know now what " currently down for maintenance" means.  And you're still contributing to this "agency"?

Of course! 6.3% of my revenue is not negligible!

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on February 02, 2018, 18:29

Quote from: cthoman on February 02, 2018, 17:12
I assume it is this now from what people are saying.

0 – 1,999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

2,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

Well, I'm at 1400 and level 2.

I wasn't sure about how big level 1 was. Maybe, they just left it 0-250, so level 2 being more 251-4,999.

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on February 02, 2018, 18:29

Quote from: cthoman on February 02, 2018, 17:12
I assume it is this now from what people are saying.

0 – 1,999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

2,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

Well, I'm at 1400 and level 2.

Yep because they only remove 35% and 45% levels. Everything else stay the same. This change hit only contrubutors on this two levels.

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on February 02, 2018, 18:29

Quote from: cthoman on February 02, 2018, 17:12
I assume it is this now from what people are saying.

0 – 1,999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

2,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

Well, I'm at 1400 and level 2.

I think the new levels are:

0 – 999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

1,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

There's no winners among contributors! I'm on level 3 now and will keep the same commissions, but won't upload new images because I hate greedy agencies. 

If this is true, that's a sleazy move. And above all, without informing contributors.

If you check the current contributor schedule, you'll notice the numbers are missing next to the levels. They deliberately removed this column because they thought the change would somehow go unnoticed?

Quote from: Tay on February 02, 2018, 19:06

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on February 02, 2018, 18:29

Quote from: cthoman on February 02, 2018, 17:12
I assume it is this now from what people are saying.

0 – 1,999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

2,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

Well, I'm at 1400 and level 2.

Yep because they only remove 35% and 45% levels. Everything else stay the same. This change hit only contrubutors on this two levels.

No I don't think so I was at level 2 and now at level 1 earning $0.216 per sub instead of the $0.25 per sub.

These people are disgusting.

No more uploads from me

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on February 03, 2018, 10:16

Quote from: Tay on February 02, 2018, 19:06

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on February 02, 2018, 18:29

Quote from: cthoman on February 02, 2018, 17:12
I assume it is this now from what people are saying.

0 – 1,999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

2,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

Well, I'm at 1400 and level 2.

Yep because they only remove 35% and 45% levels. Everything else stay the same. This change hit only contrubutors on this two levels.

No I don't think so I was at level 2 and now at level 1 earning $0.216 per sub instead of the $0.25 per sub.

These people are disgusting.

No more uploads from me

Level 2 was 35% So now you are at level one with 30% and 0.216 per sub. What's wrong with that?

Quote from: Tay on February 03, 2018, 11:19

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on February 03, 2018, 10:16

Quote from: Tay on February 02, 2018, 19:06

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on February 02, 2018, 18:29

Quote from: cthoman on February 02, 2018, 17:12
I assume it is this now from what people are saying.

0 – 1,999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

2,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

Well, I'm at 1400 and level 2.

Yep because they only remove 35% and 45% levels. Everything else stay the same. This change hit only contrubutors on this two levels.

No I don't think so I was at level 2 and now at level 1 earning $0.216 per sub instead of the $0.25 per sub.

These people are disgusting.

No more uploads from me

Level 2 was 35% So now you are at level one with 30% and 0.216 per sub. What's wrong with that?

Whats wrong with that?

I was getting $0.25 per sub and using the old tables I was at level 2

Now with the new schedule I'm getting $0.216 per sub and have been dropped to level 1 even though under the old schedule I should be at level 2.

Nothing difficult about that is there?

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on February 03, 2018, 15:20

Quote from: Tay on February 03, 2018, 11:19

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on February 03, 2018, 10:16

Quote from: Tay on February 02, 2018, 19:06

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on February 02, 2018, 18:29

Quote from: cthoman on February 02, 2018, 17:12
I assume it is this now from what people are saying.

0 – 1,999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

2,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

Well, I'm at 1400 and level 2.

Yep because they only remove 35% and 45% levels. Everything else stay the same. This change hit only contrubutors on this two levels.

No I don't think so I was at level 2 and now at level 1 earning $0.216 per sub instead of the $0.25 per sub.

These people are disgusting.

No more uploads from me

Level 2 was 35% So now you are at level one with 30% and 0.216 per sub. What's wrong with that?

Whats wrong with that?

I was getting $0.25 per sub and using the old tables I was at level 2

Now with the new schedule I'm getting $0.216 per sub and have been dropped to level 1 even though under the old schedule I should be at level 2.

Nothing difficult about that is there?

OMG  And now you are on level 1 because they removed level 2 and level 4. That's all. I still don't get why you wrote "No I don't think so"

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on February 03, 2018, 10:16
No I don't think so I was at level 2 and now at level 1 earning $0.216 per sub instead of the $0.25 per sub.

These people are disgusting.

No more uploads from me

If you moved from 2 to 1, then you probably have a better idea of the cutoff between them. I kind of gave an educated guess on the level numbers.

I currently have between

Quote from: Fairplay on February 02, 2018, 23:40
I think the new levels are:

0 – 999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

1,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

There's no winners among contributors! I'm on level 3 now and will keep the same commissions, but won't upload new images because I hate greedy agencies. 

I think this is indeed the new level structure, because I used to be level 3 40% with 1200 points, now I'm level 2 with the same 40%.

Old Levels 1/2 are now New Level 1
Old Levels 3/4 are now New Level 2
Old Levels 5/6 are now New Level 3?

I've emailed them asking for more clarification.

I still haven't received an reply from days ago when I emailed them.

Guessing I probably won't, until we get a random "Exciting News!!" email newsletter sent out or something.

Its all feeling very iStock...

they pulled this same stunt years ago, don't you all remember? Lots of promises. IIRC things didn't improve.  This will be no different. 

I was at level 4 with 3752, now I'm at level 2

I can live without them

Quote from: Noedelhap on February 03, 2018, 18:57
I currently have between

Quote from: Fairplay on February 02, 2018, 23:40
I think the new levels are:

0 – 999 Level 1
30%
$0.216

1,000 – 4,999 Level 2
40%
$0.288

There's no winners among contributors! I'm on level 3 now and will keep the same commissions, but won't upload new images because I hate greedy agencies. 

I think this is indeed the new level structure, because I used to be level 3 40% with 1200 points, now I'm level 2 with the same 40%.

Old Levels 1/2 are now New Level 1
Old Levels 3/4 are now New Level 2
Old Levels 5/6 are now New Level 3?

I've emailed them asking for more clarification.

No because I was 6 and am now 4. We shouldn't have to play guessing games. Where is the page with the new structure. It's ridiculous.

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on February 04, 2018, 18:16
No because I was 6 and am now 4. We shouldn't have to play guessing games. Where is the page with the new structure. It's ridiculous.

It doesn't really look like much of a guessing game. Like somebody said above, they got rid of two levels (35% and 45%). People in those 2 levels lost out because they got moved to 30% and 40% levels. 50% and above levels though appear to be unchanged except they changed the level number from 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 & 10 to 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8.

I will stop uploading. 123RF will not get any new illustrations from me.

With 2491 dls/12mths I also fell from level 4 to 2. That's about $20 less per month for me, so I guess I won't upload anymore.

I'm rather furious to have also dropped from level 4 to level 2. A sneaky pay cut is a slap in the face for hard-working contributors.

I will think long and hard before I upload anything further.

There is no doubt that 123 is hurting.  Sales have plummeted in a very short period of time.  I'm now at level 2.  This month so far I am at .28 cents.  It's almost laughable now, for me, anyway. The cut is perhaps only to make up for what they lost in the Google search placement debacle where supposedly 123 lost positioning.  Right around when that happened sales tanked.  They continue to slide for me, a testament to my whooping 28 cents balance so far. 

I had no idea what level I was on but I'm on level 3 now. It's been a slow downhill on there for years. I don't upload anymore. It would have been nice to let contributors know about this change.

I would suggest everyone emails them with their concerns, or gets on social media to them. A flood of emails or tweets etc may make them actually provide some info on this change at least.

Quote from: Microstock Man on February 03, 2018, 20:10
I still haven't received an reply from days ago when I emailed them.

Guessing I probably won't, until we get a random "Exciting News!!" email newsletter sent out or something.

Its all feeling very iStock...

Exciting news, we have simplified and consolidate the commission levels for you so they are easier to understand.    They are 7.9 now on the poll maybe somebody can come back next year Jan. and see how our earnings have dropped, while 123 makes more.

Wow, I've gone from level 4 to level 1, from 0.324 to 0.216 per sub DL.
Inability to sell = slash the commission rate based on your 12 month points total. Time to pull the plug on this site.

Nice going 123rf