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Agency Based Discussion => 123RF => Topic started by: tupungato on October 23, 2020, 03:02

Title: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: tupungato on October 23, 2020, 03:02
Is it only me, or did sales suddenly decrease after October 14?
In October 15-21 I had 25% of sales compared to earlier week, and 17% of sales compared to random September week. That's an unprecedented drop.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: panicAttack on October 23, 2020, 03:13
same here, started very good then stopped almost completely.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: res on October 23, 2020, 03:29
It's the same in my account!
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Chichikov on October 23, 2020, 05:12
Same here…
I hope they are just not reported correctly
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Artist on October 23, 2020, 05:49
Wow and I got a negative sale here  ::)
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: JetCityImage on October 23, 2020, 07:06
I thought it was just me.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: fotoroad on October 23, 2020, 16:02
same here
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Anyka on October 24, 2020, 02:40
same here - 6 days in a row NO sales at all - yesterday 1 mini-sale ...
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: H2O on October 24, 2020, 07:23
Same here, many days in a row with no sales, I have always sold everyday on this site, they seem to be going down hill fast.

Last month they over paid me, but I am not complaining as they have consistently cut the commission rates as well as bringing in there own logo designs and then deleting mine a few years ago.

Personally the site is run by a bunch of idiots.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Chichikov on October 24, 2020, 13:46
I wrote them to ask.
Maybe if we are more to ask we will get an answer…
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: offisapup on October 24, 2020, 14:25
Yes, no sales. I also had two entire batches rejected for "Poor composition". Never ever happened before. So either they've changed something or my skills have gone downhill.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: H2O on October 25, 2020, 04:27
I suspect we will see this site close by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: JustAnImage on October 25, 2020, 06:18
I have "about average" sales this month (which is something around 10 sales per month).

But the last sales has been on 14th Oct, so 11 days ago.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: steheap on October 25, 2020, 09:28
It has been quiet for me in the past week or so. The high bar is $10 so not a big earner...

Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Canonbabe on October 26, 2020, 03:12
Yes, no sales. I also had two entire batches rejected for "Poor composition". Never ever happened before. So either they've changed something or my skills have gone downhill.

Same here and a refund for a higher amount than the original sale.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Noedelhap on October 26, 2020, 05:02
The fact that they had to remove the footage side of their collection and the dwindling sales makes me think they won't last much longer. They've become a low-earner long ago and have shown no signs of improvement.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: H2O on October 26, 2020, 05:31
The site is run by people who only see profit, they simply don't understand the concept that you pay a fair commission and sales will follow.

I had quit a few vector logo's that sold really well, then one day without any notice they deleted them all, when I looked up logo's on the site, they had pages and pages of them all very badly designed, you couldn't even call them second rate they were that bad. They all had the same fingerprints all over them, in fact, they were childlike in their design.

What they had done is commission some third rate factory somewhere to mass produce thousands of logo's that were utter rubbish and then sell them for the site owners.

The other point here is, they couldn't even see that these logo's were utter rubbish, otherwise they would never have put them on the site.

This obviously didn't work for them as about two years later they let contributors upload logo's again, of course, by then they had lost this market entirely.

This kind of greed driven thinking is why they have cut and cut the commission rates over recent years along with being the only site that has refunds.

Just counting the money is not enough, you have to have a visual eye to run a stock site.

The demise of this site is near.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Firn on October 26, 2020, 06:01
along with being the only site that has refunds.
Shutterstock, Dreamstime and Alamy have refunds too.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: ShadySue on October 26, 2020, 06:09
along with being the only site that has refunds.
Shutterstock, Dreamstime and Alamy have refunds too.
And iStock
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Chichikov on October 26, 2020, 09:59
The site is run by people who only see profit,
Well that's the way it works with 99.9% of companies...
What did you expect in a world ruled by money and profit?
:p
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: H2O on October 26, 2020, 10:15
The site is run by people who only see profit,
Well that's the way it works with 99.9% of companies...
What did you expect in a world ruled by money and profit?
:p

This is a dumb comment, it doesn't work that 99.9% of companies only see profit, first and foremost the people running a company see a opportunity to market something that they think will be useful to people.

Profit is a consideration, but it is not the only criteria, apart from the fact that you have taken my quote out of context, which is pretty thick.

The World is not ruled by money and profit, it is ruled by the conscious of the majority, and on most occasions this overrides money.

You sound like the C2 Demographic.
 

Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Chichikov on October 26, 2020, 11:22
The site is run by people who only see profit,
Well that's the way it works with 99.9% of companies...
What did you expect in a world ruled by money and profit?
:p

This is a dumb comment, it doesn't work that 99.9% of companies only see profit, first and foremost the people running a company see a opportunity to market something that they think will be useful to people.

Profit is a consideration, but it is not the only criteria, apart from the fact that you have taken my quote out of context, which is pretty thick.

The World is not ruled by money and profit, it is ruled by the conscious of the majority, and on most occasions this overrides money.

You sound like the C2 Demographic.

What naivety!

The world is governed by the 1% who own 99% of the world's wealth.
Not really the majority…

And that 1% don't give a dаmn about the rest of us (the remaining 99%).
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: cascoly on October 26, 2020, 19:28
The site is run by people who only see profit,
Well that's the way it works with 99.9% of companies...
What did you expect in a world ruled by money and profit?
:p

This is a dumb comment, it doesn't work that 99.9% of companies only see profit, first and foremost the people running a company see a opportunity to market something that they think will be useful to people.

Profit is a consideration, but it is not the only criteria, apart from the fact that you have taken my quote out of context, which is pretty thick.

The World is not ruled by money and profit, it is ruled by the conscious of the majority, and on most occasions this overrides money.

You sound like the C2 Demographic.

using your own words..  "what a DUMB comment " (also ignorant). against Piketty & Stiglitz, what do you to back up your comment? or watch "The Laundramat" about money L'ing in Panama
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on October 27, 2020, 05:10
Yes massive devastating 50% drop. I was expecting $2 this month but it looks like I'm now on track for $1.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: JustAnImage on October 28, 2020, 05:03
Today I found sales at 123rf for 18th Oct, 19th, Oct and 24.Oct which haven't been in the list yesterday.
I assume they had some problems with their statistics.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: HalfFull on October 28, 2020, 05:50
123 are about a 25% of what they normally do... bad month for them.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: JetCityImage on October 28, 2020, 15:20
Added about 25% in the last 12 hours filling in past days. Maybe someone forgot to feed the squirrel at the wheel.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: cascoly on October 28, 2020, 16:25
Yes massive devastating 50% drop. I was expecting $2 this month but it looks like I'm now on track for $1.

yep - with numbers as small as have been reported, it's expected there would be major swings up/down - my monthly sales charts for most agencies look like a picket fence - rolling avgs are much more predictive
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: alexandersr on October 28, 2020, 19:52
I have used FTP software (Filezila) to upload  image to 123rf, but they don't get the image, someone else happens this?
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Artist on October 28, 2020, 20:06
I have used FTP software (Filezila) to upload  image to 123rf, but they don't get the image, someone else happens this?

Yes, they have some FTP bug going on.. It was fixed yesterday but again happening.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on October 28, 2020, 20:31
Yes massive devastating 50% drop. I was expecting $2 this month but it looks like I'm now on track for $1.

yep - with numbers as small as have been reported, it's expected there would be major swings up/down - my monthly sales charts for most agencies look like a picket fence - rolling avgs are much more predictive

Well the percentage drop part was supposed to be sarcastic humor. The earnings are accurate though. I have several hundred images there that have sold well elsewhere and I'm lucky to get a couple dollars a month.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: HalfFull on October 29, 2020, 12:59
Just for info... heard back from 123 when I enquired about this. This was there response.

"Thank you for contacting us.

We have been having some issues relating to the sales not syncing with the contributor accounts on time. Our IT Team has already been working on this ever since and it would take some time before the sales are all synced to the account's Earning details page.

Having said that, could you provide us with your account username please so we can have your account checked as well.

Looking forward to your response."
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: alexandersr on October 29, 2020, 13:11
I have used FTP software (Filezila) to upload  image to 123rf, but they don't get the image, someone else happens this?

Yes, they have some FTP bug going on.. It was fixed yesterday but again happening.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: cascoly on October 29, 2020, 17:48
Yes massive devastating 50% drop. I was expecting $2 this month but it looks like I'm now on track for $1.

yep - with numbers as small as have been reported, it's expected there would be major swings up/down - my monthly sales charts for most agencies look like a picket fence - rolling avgs are much more predictive

Well the percentage drop part was supposed to be sarcastic humor. The earnings are accurate though. I have several hundred images there that have sold well elsewhere and I'm lucky to get a couple dollars a month.

yes, i knew it was sarcastic, but used it to comment on earlier reports based on small numbers.

after a slow month, my monthly sales doubled over the last few days, bringing it back to normal.   yet another example of why it's wrong to draw conclusions from small samples.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Canonbabe on November 02, 2020, 05:17
Just for info... heard back from 123 when I enquired about this. This was there response.

"Thank you for contacting us.

We have been having some issues relating to the sales not syncing with the contributor accounts on time. Our IT Team has already been working on this ever since and it would take some time before the sales are all synced to the account's Earning details page.

Having said that, could you provide us with your account username please so we can have your account checked as well.

Looking forward to your response."
Looks like they are still working on that salessystem because sales of october are still coming in. Still nothing for the october 19th - 26th week. Anyone else with same "problem"?
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: HalfFull on November 02, 2020, 06:29
I would give it another week... their system is terrible at the beginning of the month without any "Sales Reporting Problems". It seems like it's bouncing around a bit and the graph is showing zero?!? How they're still operating I have no idea!
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Chichikov on November 03, 2020, 02:50
I would give it another week... their system is terrible at the beginning of the month without any "Sales Reporting Problems". It seems like it's bouncing around a bit and the graph is showing zero?!? How they're still operating I have no idea!

The page with the graph show 0 sale at the beginning of the month, while the sales are regularly reported in the page
https://www.123rf.com/contributor/earnings.php. (https://www.123rf.com/contributor/earnings.php.)
I never understood why.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: sergio_pulp on November 03, 2020, 10:15
they should change their name to 123bug  >:(
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: oooo on November 03, 2020, 12:51
Quote
I was expecting $2 this month but it looks like I'm now on track for $1.
is that worth to even log in or doing the tax work  :o
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: tupungato on December 01, 2020, 04:44
They said they corrected the error. For me it seems that after adjusting the October sales, November still has the error. Or is it just low sales? How was your November compared to previous months? It was 45-50% of September and October for me.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: Fairplay on December 01, 2020, 04:48
About 40% less than previous months.
Title: Re: Sudden decrease in sales mid-October
Post by: stocky on December 01, 2020, 13:47
Sales are down about 30% in November from previous months.