Our cut is -16,66%!

When istock cut royalties I added Alamy and Veer to offset the loss of income. When Fotolia cut royalties I added Envato and Deposit.  I'm feeling a sudden inspiration to migrate my port some more.

That'll show 'em! Maybe you can find some new agencies with even worse rates or throw in a couple free sites. 

Anybody who wants to work for nothing please contact me. I have a company I would like to start up and having employees work for free will get me a yacht and oceanfront home a lot more quickly.

Contact some recent grads through your local college and tell them you are looking for "interns". 

Quote from: ouchie on November 20, 2012, 23:04

Seams like I'm blocked or you cant see my posts lately or you don't want to respond cause you have no rebuttal or defence in what i have been saying. but i way it anyway.

When are you people going to put on your big boy (and girl) pants on and stand up for yourselves!

I am not sure who this is directed to, but it's never a good sign when someone quotes Sarah Palin to try and win an argument.  Not to mention being unable to master spelling of basic words and sentence structures.  Sarah, I did not know you were doing microstock.  How are pictures of Alaska selling? 

KAPOW! Great answer.

I couldn't care less about what alamy is planning to pay me

I am having sales on my own site(s) where I keep %100 of the sale.. Stop moaning people

just do something and you too "won't give a frog" when the agencies do their thing..

Yaaaay you!!!  You are so awesome!!!

Having sales on your own site must be just great (none of the rest of us would know).  I assume you are supporting yourself with them completely, since you are fine with agencies cutting your commissions.  What an amazing success, really.  Hats off!

With all of your personal success, constructively used time,  and your general disinterest in the subject, I am curious why you even bothered to read this long thread about something you don't care about, much less to comment??? 

Fuck off alamy !
They deleted twice my messages in their useless forum, what a bunch of scumbags.

For anything else, sorry but the whole stock industry is slowly going down the drain, alamy once again shown her real colors not to mention they keep talking BS about their so called charity which is just an accounting trick to avoid paying taxes ! i wouldn't even buy a second hand photo from a sack of crap like her CEO James West, guess he was sellig toilet brushes door to door before joining alamy !

And now they clearly stated their goal now is to becoming a semi-edited creative collection, the whole editorial stuff is already downplayed and despite the fiasco with news, video, and creative they keep pushing in that direction while slashing photographers fees.

Can't we just enjoy what's good while it's good, rather than have to live in a constant state of gloom over what might come in the future?

It's one thing to be prepared for all eventualities, but to keep willing rain on a sunny day is just going to make every day a thoroughly miserable experience.  Life's too short for all this bleedin' misery. 

Cheer up!  *.

I didn't see this coming.. I have no intention to counter strike

will just translate my previous post which wasn't in english apparently..

non of us are completely supporting ourselves with personal sites but it is something we should all have.. it is a step in the right direction.. what's wrong with advising people to start their own websites?

eventually (if you put your time to it) you are bound to increase sales on your site.. and at some point you(all of us) should reach to a level where we can support ourselves..

of course it is not a great thing that agencies are cutting commissions.. but if people don't like commission cuts, they should do something about it, not just complain in the forums..

- We had union talks! That didn't work..
- We talked about having a central search engine! That's not happening either..

I can see that the best anyone can do is "start a site" and work hard to increase sales, so when an agency says "less money for you", we can be ready to say "then no images for you"!

Otherwise, no matter what we write on the forums, they will keep cutting commissions..

I might have worded it badly in my previous post but bragging (as you misunderstood) was the last thing in my mind.. My motive was more like "why don't we all do something" instead of just talking?

I definitely agree. Having your own site isn't going to work out for everyone, but having an escape plan isn't a bad idea.

Quote from: ouchie on November 20, 2012, 23:04

Seams like I'm blocked or you cant see my posts lately or you don't want to respond cause you have no rebuttal or defence in what i have been saying. but i way it anyway.

When are you people going to put on your big boy (and girl) pants on and stand up for yourselves!

I am not sure who this is directed to, but it's never a good sign when someone quotes Sarah Palin to try and win an argument.  Not to mention being unable to master spelling of basic words and sentence structures.  Sarah, I did not know you were doing microstock.  How are pictures of Alaska selling? 

If you notice, we are not all delighted with these changes.

I'll make you a deal.  You send me a check for $60k to cover my daughter's last two years of college, and I will quit all the unfair sites right now.  PM me if you need the name and address where to send the check. 

Lets see if this makes it on line and does not get blocked, again.

@  lisafx,

wow thanks for your nice words, great to see this response on Thanksgiving morning.

It was not directed towards you, it was for everyone on this forum.  don�t be so pompous to think everything is abt you!

Sarah Palin: I don�t think she was the one who coined that phrase? And the furthest thing from my mind was her?!

Wow, lisafx you are full of vile today. And I liked you. I think you were put up to this response. I have never seen you this mean, ever!

My my my, I must have touched a nerve or said something that you absolutely can not defend against. So you attack someones, spelling and sentence srtucture. Your back must be up against a wall. Very sad.

Why would I pay for your daughters college? Who are you to me?

I don�t need your address or name. I know your name and where you live, the next town over from me.

Then I guess I should have expected that kind of response from a Floridian.

So other then attacking me did you have a point to be made with this response???

My main point is: Just because some company�s dish it out does not mean you have to sit down to dinner WITH then. Acting as if they are family who care for you and your circumstance.

 If you do that�s a choice YOU made!

We all have created these company�s by accepting there terms, over and over again.

I say it again they will pay us nothing if they could!

Did you not notice how nervous and weasely Mr. Alamy is in that video?

He is nervous cause he is afraid we will all unite and say that�s it that�s the last straw, im pulling out!

that�s why I have been suggesting we ALL put on our big boy pants on and not stand idly by while we are repeatedly abused by these company�s.

AND worst of all is that you defend them!!!!!!!

Quote from: lisafx on November 21, 2012, 18:30

Quote from: ouchie on November 20, 2012, 23:04

Seams like I'm blocked or you cant see my posts lately or you don't want to respond cause you have no rebuttal or defence in what i have been saying. but i way it anyway.

When are you people going to put on your big boy (and girl) pants on and stand up for yourselves!

I am not sure who this is directed to, but it's never a good sign when someone quotes Sarah Palin to try and win an argument.  Not to mention being unable to master spelling of basic words and sentence structures.  Sarah, I did not know you were doing microstock.  How are pictures of Alaska selling? 

If you notice, we are not all delighted with these changes.

I'll make you a deal.  You send me a check for $60k to cover my daughter's last two years of college, and I will quit all the unfair sites right now.  PM me if you need the name and address where to send the check. 

Lets see if this makes it on line and does not get blocked, again.

@  lisafx,

wow thanks for your nice words, great to see this response on Thanksgiving morning.

It was not directed towards you, it was for everyone on this forum.  don�t be so pompous to think everything is abt you!

Sarah Palin: I don�t think she was the one who coined that phrase? And the furthest thing from my mind was her?!

Wow, lisafx you are full of vile today. And I liked you. I think you were put up to this response. I have never seen you this mean, ever!

My my my, I must have touched a nerve or said something that you absolutely can not defend against. So you attack someones, spelling and sentence srtucture. Your back must be up against a wall. Very sad.

Why would I pay for your daughters college? Who are you to me?

I don�t need your address or name. I know your name and where you live, the next town over from me.

Then I guess I should have expected that kind of response from a Floridian.

So other then attacking me did you have a point to be made with this response???

My main point is: Just because some company�s dish it out does not mean you have to sit down to dinner WITH then. Acting as if they are family who care for you and your circumstance.

 If you do that�s a choice YOU made!

We all have created these company�s by accepting there terms, over and over again.

I say it again they will pay us nothing if they could!

Did you not notice how nervous and weasely Mr. Alamy is in that video?

He is nervous cause he is afraid we will all unite and say that�s it that�s the last straw, im pulling out!

that�s why I have been suggesting we ALL put on our big boy pants on and not stand idly by while we are repeatedly abused by these company�s.

AND worst of all is that you defend them!!!!!!!

Ouchie, as you are anonymous, I don't know who you are, so you have an advantage on me.  But you have COMPLETELY misinterpreted my post. 

First off, regarding your post, I specifically stated "I am not sure who this is directed to", which indicates I was not assuming it was about me. 

Secondly, your post lecturing others to "put on your big boy pants" seemed condescending and dismissive of nearly everyone posting in this thread, IMO.  Surprised you didn't expect some pushback.  FWIW, I never heard that expression before Palin used it, but even if it was around, she has certainly made it her own, along with "You Betcha" and some others. 

And thirdly, I believe my other posts in this thread, including the one above this one, demonstrate that I am anything but defending Alamy over this.  I am not at all happy about what they've been doing.

You have a happy thanksgiving too.  Sincerely.  FWIW, I wrote my post yesterday. 

that's their thing.. as others said before, they want to pay us nothing if they can.. so we should do our thing and pay them nothing if we can

I can say I am a fair person and had they all paid me %50 I would probably have never started my own sites.. but they don't want to be fair..

Well I definitely must have misinterpreted your first post, because I agree with both of your points above. 

Always gonna care what I get paid, but if my own site were supporting me I would happily pull my images from any others who stepped on my toes. 

I am just too sarcastic as I believe it helps make my points heard better.. (sarcasm doesn't work on the forums as it does face to face)

Totally agree.  Clearly I had the same problem above.

Apologies to anyone who was offended by my two snarky posts.  I have been spending too much time lately on the yahoo news forums, and things are pretty rough in there.  Some of the nastiness must have rubbed off.

I stand by my opinions, but regret if I was obnoxious in putting them across....

When I saw the e-mail from Alamy I had a sinking feeling even before I opened it. I am sad to see another commission decrease. I put a lot of time into getting stuff up on Alamy last winter, and it has paid off - it has mostly made up for my almost complete loss if IS income (or maybe it was their opening of the US office that has resulted in my sales? - I am skeptical).

50% is still better than most sites, but Alamy uploading requires a lot more work than most sites too. They are a bit of a different animal.

I somehow suspect that like all the other sites that have dropped commissions along with grand words about increased marketing and more sales etc. etc., all it really means is less money for me.