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Agency Based Discussion => Alamy.com => Topic started by: DaveNelson on March 19, 2023, 14:59

Title: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: DaveNelson on March 19, 2023, 14:59
Unable to access any of their features.  Anybody else?
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: KimC on March 19, 2023, 15:01
It is the same for me. There is no statement on their Twitter channel.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Just_to_inform_people2 on March 19, 2023, 15:12
Did they finally die? It took some time :)
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: wordplanet on March 19, 2023, 15:37
Offline for me trying to access from New York 4:30 pm EDT March 19
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: pancaketom on March 19, 2023, 17:27
the contributor side dashboard has been off and on for me today - on now - 15:27 west coast USA. I haven't tried anything else.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on March 19, 2023, 21:41
Works fine for me - other than no recent sales.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Mimi the Cat on March 20, 2023, 01:39
Still offline though the customer site seems to be working OK  ::)
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: [email protected] on March 20, 2023, 02:14
Is their ftp working now ?
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Dumc on March 20, 2023, 04:25
Down for me too, for about 2 days now

DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: StanRohrer on March 20, 2023, 07:51
Perhaps Alamy has changed some internal link structures. My saved bookmarks for Contributor Dashboard are not working. If I start at Alamy dot Com and click through the My Account and login access, all works.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Dumc on March 20, 2023, 09:38
Perhaps Alamy has changed some internal link structures. My saved bookmarks for Contributor Dashboard are not working. If I start at Alamy dot Com and click through the My Account and login access, all works.


You're not wrong. Tried alamy.com and it works
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: DaveNelson on March 20, 2023, 09:44
Everything seems to be working now except for the forum.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: ouatedeP on March 20, 2023, 10:10
Everything seems to be working now except for the forum.

back to normal, 3 puny sales reported today, including 2 with 76% commission.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Mimi the Cat on March 20, 2023, 11:44
They changed the web address

It used to be https://secure.alamy.com/myalamy-aim.aspx (https://secure.alamy.com/myalamy-aim.aspx)

Now its https://www.alamy.com/myalamy-aim.aspx (https://www.alamy.com/myalamy-aim.aspx)

Put in the new address it should take you to the contibutor dashboard
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Reimar on March 20, 2023, 12:31
What about the Forum?  I still can't sign in.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: RalfLiebhold on March 20, 2023, 12:39
So here with us (Germany) there were no problems.

Could also the last few days under the link https://www.alamy.de/myalamy-aim.aspx (https://www.alamy.de/myalamy-aim.aspx) in my dashboard and also continue to forum.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: ouatedeP on March 20, 2023, 12:42
So here with us (Germany) there were no problems.

Could also the last few days under the link https://www.alamy.de/myalamy-aim.aspx (https://www.alamy.de/myalamy-aim.aspx) in my dashboard and also continue to forum.

can you post in forum?  Nothing new showing in last 24 hours and it's usually more active
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: RalfLiebhold on March 20, 2023, 12:48
So here with us (Germany) there were no problems.

Could also the last few days under the link https://www.alamy.de/myalamy-aim.aspx (https://www.alamy.de/myalamy-aim.aspx) in my dashboard and also continue to forum.

can you post in forum?  Nothing new showing in last 24 hours and it's usually more active

True, I can read in the forum, but not sign in.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Reimar on March 20, 2023, 12:55
The notice at the bottom of the Forum has: There are no registered users currently online
I don't want to start a new account just to see if I can sign in that way.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: StanRohrer on March 21, 2023, 18:18
I was just in the forum. It was accessable via login. However we seem to be missing some discussion categories. Maybe a data restore is still in progress?
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: changingsky on April 21, 2023, 14:34
I cannot login. Something is wrong there, reset does not send email. Contacted support
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 22, 2023, 12:13
The notice at the bottom of the Forum has: There are no registered users currently online
I don't want to start a new account just to see if I can sign in that way.

Right now:

    Allan Bell Ognyan Yosifov Michael Ventura John Morrison Eric Hanauer John Mitchell Phil Robinson Harry Harrison NYCat


AKA the usual suspects?  ;D
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: cobalt on April 25, 2023, 06:27
(ab)using this thread

Does Alamy take generative ai?

They have declined all of mine.

Initially my batch was too large, then I broke it down to 2-4 files but it always gets declined.

But I see they have a lot of gen ai content online.

Have they changed their policy?
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 25, 2023, 12:55
(ab)using this thread

Does Alamy take generative ai?

They have declined all of mine.

Initially my batch was too large, then I broke it down to 2-4 files but it always gets declined.

But I see they have a lot of gen ai content online.

Have they changed their policy?

For what they are paying for partner sales, they should welcome anything they can get.

I made a few, that were my original images, upload to, and altered using DALL-E2. They are my own, with some help from AI. Not someone else's work in any way, to transform them. No prompts or anything, just my image uploaded and four variations created. Then I altered that myself.

Officially:  https://www.alamy.com/blog/ai-and-your-images-protecting-rights-and-creating-opportunities#:~:text=While%20the%20sources%20for%20AI%20image%20generation%20by,all%20of%20this%20content%20that%20we%20can%20identify. (https://www.alamy.com/blog/ai-and-your-images-protecting-rights-and-creating-opportunities#:~:text=While%20the%20sources%20for%20AI%20image%20generation%20by,all%20of%20this%20content%20that%20we%20can%20identify.)

"While the sources for AI image generation by many platforms are at worst scraped without permission and at best unclear, we cannot accept AI generated material on Alamy. It already breaches our standard terms and conditions because it is not necessarily free from rights. We are in the process of removing all of this content that we can identify."
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: cobalt on April 25, 2023, 16:12
OK, thank you!

They have a lot of content with keywords generative ai.

That is why I started uploading.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 26, 2023, 11:24
OK, thank you!

They have a lot of content with keywords generative ai.

That is why I started uploading.

Yes, I think they did take it before, then didn't? I'm a firm believer in "I don't honestly know for sure". One place they say they don't, another they had a way to tag images as Generative AI.

But going from the Alamy Blog they don't?

If the words are in the artists keywrods and titles, how many people use an uploading service that sends to everywhere all the same. How many people don't edit their keywords and descriptions for each agency. I have to laugh, if you search Alamy for Zuma, there are people who work for them, that leave the required "Zuma News" in the keywords.

I can guess that people who upload to Adobe, will leave in the required Generative AI notices.

Hey, someone write to Alamy and ask, please? I have to go fix the car... and go shopping. I'm the one cooking dinner tonight.  :)
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Her Ugliness on April 26, 2023, 11:43


I made a few, that were my original images, upload to, and altered using DALL-E2. They are my own, with some help from AI. Not someone else's work in any way, to transform them. No prompts or anything, just my image uploaded and four variations created. Then I altered that myself.


And you really think AI just generated 4 different variations with ONLY using your photo and is not resorting to its training with billions of copyrighted images? Seems a bit naive.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 26, 2023, 11:56


I made a few, that were my original images, upload to, and altered using DALL-E2. They are my own, with some help from AI. Not someone else's work in any way, to transform them. No prompts or anything, just my image uploaded and four variations created. Then I altered that myself.


And you really think AI just generated 4 different variations with ONLY using your photo and is not resorting to its training with billions of copyrighted images? Seems a bit naive.

Have you anything positive to say that my image and the results were not just warped versions? There's nothing added, no other image was cloned or made into a collage. Yes I'm naive to think that I uploaded and image, the AI changed it, and didn't use anyone else's image, directly, to do that. Or you are possibly, negative and trying as hard as possible to find things wrong with everything. Must be pretty gloomy and depressing.

I'll stay with my head in the clouds, looking for the good in things and stay naive. Thanks

I have an idea, upload a B&W drawing and see what DALL-E gives you back. It does not use other images, to create the new images. It is 100% the original image and nothing more, sometimes less.

And if you mean AI looked at images and learned, yes, I read the dictionary sometimes, I know more words, that doesn't mean that because the dictionary was created from researching books and looking for meaning, that I plagiarizer someone else's writing.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Mimi the Cat on April 26, 2023, 23:57
Anyway back to the thread  ::)

Alamy is offline this morning just getting HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Her Ugliness on April 27, 2023, 01:34

And if you mean AI looked at images and learned, yes, I read the dictionary sometimes, I know more words, that doesn't mean that because the dictionary was created from researching books and looking for meaning, that I plagiarizer someone else's writing.

Ah, so you do agree with me that other than your work was used to create your work.

What you describe is the WHOLE problem with AI content being trained by images they had no right to use and why several Ai generators are currently being sued.

Some people still do not seem to understand how AI works. Ai image generators are not going through some database scrapping the hand from one image, the eye from another, the dress for a third, the background from a forth and so one. They create images all based on what they have learned by "looking" at existing artwork in the past.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 27, 2023, 11:17

And if you mean AI looked at images and learned, yes, I read the dictionary sometimes, I know more words, that doesn't mean that because the dictionary was created from researching books and looking for meaning, that I plagiarizer someone else's writing.

Ah, so you do agree with me that other than your work was used to create your work.

What you describe is the WHOLE problem with AI content being trained by images they had no right to use and why several Ai generators are currently being sued.

Some people still do not seem to understand how AI works. Ai image generators are not going through some database scrapping the hand from one image, the eye from another, the dress for a third, the background from a forth and so one. They create images all based on what they have learned by "looking" at existing artwork in the past.

I uploaded MY image, AI produced a variation of MY image, nothing was from someone else's work.

Do you use a spell checker on your computer? Is that violating the copyright of the dictionary companies?

These are two separate concepts, not all in one. Teaching words, and vocabulary, by reading a book, is not stealing. Looking at a photo and having a machine learn from that, is not image theft. Now if someone wanted to argue that reading the associated data and Alt Text was stealing, I could start to side with that. Because if it's in the image data or on a website, someone had to add that, and their descriptions are protected. Or at least it would make a good argument.

Where, looking at something or reading, and learning, doesn't infringe.
Title: Re: Is Alamy off line today?
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 27, 2023, 11:27
Anyway back to the thread  ::)

Alamy is offline this morning just getting HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.

Sounds as bad as this years sales.  :(

https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/alamy.com.html (https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/alamy.com.html)   "More than a week ago Last Down:"

But... "Discussion.alamy.com is DOWN
It is not just you. The server is not responding..."

This checks out OK:  https://www.alamy.com/myupload/index.asp (https://www.alamy.com/myupload/index.asp)  "More than a week ago Last Down:"

As far as I can tell, Alamy is fine, the contributor tools show as being online and the forum is still broken.

Of course I'm trusting a site that pings and checks, and I don't know how reliable their data actually is.