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« on: January 21, 2017, 03:48 »
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Can someone kindly tell me how alamy works? I am a microstock user and I know nothing on marcostock world.

What are the differences with respect to a mICrostock agency?

thanks





« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2017, 08:33 »
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Not much really, except they don't take everything you throw at them.

« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2017, 08:37 »
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Not much really, except they don't take everything you throw at them.

Do you mean even on earnings? I knew on microstock....cents for images...while in macrostock even thousand for one image. So in microstock many sales instead on mAcrostock few sales. Am I wrong???

« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2017, 09:46 »
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You're just as likely, if not more so, to get $1 for a license on Getty than $100.

« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2017, 10:06 »
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You're just as likely, if not more so, to get $1 for a license on Getty than $100.

 :D :D :D

niktol

« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2017, 10:06 »
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So in microstock many sales instead on mAcrostock few sales.

Pretty much

ShadySue

« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2017, 13:55 »
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You're just as likely, if not more so, to get $1 for a license on Getty than $100.
Or even a lot less. My lowest is around 18c.

« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2017, 20:02 »
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All of the above and if you asked here because you think Alamy is Macro, think again. Money and percentage can be better per download but the total income for many is less than Micro. Depends on what photos you have but there's nothing making it better or worse until you try for yourself with your own work.

« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2017, 08:44 »
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Not much really, except they don't take everything you throw at them.

Do you mean even on earnings? I knew on microstock....cents for images...while in macrostock even thousand for one image. So in microstock many sales instead on mAcrostock few sales. Am I wrong???

Stop dreaming about earning a thousand for an image. While it is not completely impossible, it is very improbable. Macrostock license prices collapsed the last decade, IMO mainly due to the advent of microstock agencies.

angelawaye

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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2017, 09:17 »
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Grizz, what about Stocksy? Are you selling there?

I'm entering Macro this year and very curious about what people have to say.

« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2017, 09:29 »
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2017, 09:34 »
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Not much really, except they don't take everything you throw at them.

Do you mean even on earnings? I knew on microstock....cents for images...while in macrostock even thousand for one image. So in microstock many sales instead on mAcrostock few sales. Am I wrong???

Stop dreaming about earning a thousand for an image. While it is not completely impossible, it is very improbable. Macrostock license prices collapsed the last decade, IMO mainly due to the advent of microstock agencies.

I agree with you wholeheartedly.  Even sales I used to get in the $700 range are all gone.  Haven't had a a sale like that for quite some time.  Alamy is a classic example. Used to sell well there and make much more years ago, but now they've been hit hard by micro stock (at their own admittance).  Sales are fewer and a lot less of them. I'm still signed up for Novelty Use and rarely see any off those sales anymore.

ShadySue

« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2017, 09:54 »
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Grizz, what about Stocksy? Are you selling there?

Just as a PoI for anyone else reading here, Stocksy isn't taking applications just now.
https://www.stocksy.com/contributor

ShadySue

« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2017, 10:03 »
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Alamy is a classic example. Used to sell well there and make much more years ago, but now they've been hit hard by micro stock (at their own admittance).  Sales are fewer and a lot less of them.
My sales on Alamy are well up, but my 2016 $$ was almost exactly the same as 2015, so a much lower rpd.
With Alamy, it's all about the often hefty discounts a buyer can negotiate.
But as an example of micro hitting them hard, there was a notorious UK newspaper / website group who had negotiated a huge discount meaning my sales to them netted me around a measly $2.25 each, BUT as they were RM, at least I got repeat sales (when they remembered to report the sales, or were caught out and chased up).
Now they buy from SS. There isn't such a relevant range there, so the photos illustrating the articles online are often far more obviously 'generic'; but hey, the togs get 25c - 28c and the files can be reused many times (I wonder if SS check on the print runs, especially when aggregated by repeat uses).

niktol

« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2017, 10:28 »
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I'm entering Macro this year and very curious about what people have to say.

There are of course special circumstances and exceptions everywhere, but I would not buy a $1000 dollar coffeemaker when a similar thing of perhaps slightly inferior quality is sold for $25 everywhere.

« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2017, 11:15 »
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I'm entering Macro this year and very curious about what people have to say.

There are of course special circumstances and exceptions everywhere, but I would not buy a $1000 dollar coffeemaker when a similar thing of perhaps slightly inferior quality is sold for $25 everywhere.

The question is why the coffeemaker makers starting to sell their coffeemakers at $25 (or rather 25 cents) instead of $1000.

angelawaye

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2017, 11:28 »
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I think Macro demands very special images that can't be found on Micro.

I took off 3 of my very best (unique) selling micro images and put them on Alamy RM. People email me all the time asking for them and where they are. Once I point them to Alamy - it gets quiet.

They have not yet been downloaded on Alamy... I'm not sure what this says about Macro but I'm sick of the downhill spiral of micro so I'm willing to take the chance... It is just getting worse and worse every month. So I'm going to try ArcAngel, Trevillion and Offset. I may not get accepted but I'm going to give it my all.

niktol

« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2017, 11:41 »
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I'm entering Macro this year and very curious about what people have to say.

There are of course special circumstances and exceptions everywhere, but I would not buy a $1000 dollar coffeemaker when a similar thing of perhaps slightly inferior quality is sold for $25 everywhere.

The question is why the coffeemaker makers starting to sell their coffeemakers at $25 (or rather 25 cents) instead of $1000.

The business went global, and global competition drives the prices down. The coffeemaker maker can certainly try to sell it for $1000, but that's the last we'll hear of him.

If history teaches us anything it teaches us about the Luddite movement.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2017, 11:44 by niktol »

« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2017, 13:55 »
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while alamy is rm also, the quality is good but not so good compared to pure rm agency like for example gallery stock. in my opinion alamy is low level rm.

« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2017, 09:19 »
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I think Macro demands very special images that can't be found on Micro.

I took off 3 of my very best (unique) selling micro images and put them on Alamy RM. People email me all the time asking for them and where they are. Once I point them to Alamy - it gets quiet.

They have not yet been downloaded on Alamy... I'm not sure what this says about Macro but I'm sick of the downhill spiral of micro so I'm willing to take the chance... It is just getting worse and worse every month. So I'm going to try ArcAngel, Trevillion and Offset. I may not get accepted but I'm going to give it my all.

Oh dear, have you told Alamy you are putting images on their site as RM which have previously been selling as RF. Oooppps.

angelawaye

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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2017, 10:18 »
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Yes, sir. I have already discussed this with them.

"Hello,

I am a contributor. I want to sell some RM photos but they were once sold as RF on Shutterstock and Dreamstime.
Is it okay to delete them from those sites and then list them as RM? Do I have to wait 30 days or anything?"

Their response:

"That wouldnt be a problem neither there will be a waiting period, you can just delete them immediately from the other sites and upload at Alamy straight away.

Hope this helps."

Cheers
Jaideep
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2017, 11:05 »
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Yes, sir. I have already discussed this with them.

"Hello,

I am a contributor. I want to sell some RM photos but they were once sold as RF on Shutterstock and Dreamstime.
Is it okay to delete them from those sites and then list them as RM? Do I have to wait 30 days or anything?"

Their response:

"That wouldnt be a problem neither there will be a waiting period, you can just delete them immediately from the other sites and upload at Alamy straight away.

Hope this helps."

Cheers
Jaideep
Member Services

Well, and wow.

First of all angelawaye, apologies from me. You have totally done the right thing and contacted them and done as they advised.

Alamy have changed their stance on this. I had some RF on Alamy from the very early days. When they changed their rules on RF to not having any non MR or PR material in the picture - they deleted my images off their site because they had sold (on Alamy) as RF and they would not then sell them as RM. (where it is OK to have non MR people in the image)

So looks as though they have changed their rules - pity they didn't let us know.

Once again, sorry to have questioned your images.
Good luck with your sales.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2017, 11:09 by Pablito »

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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2017, 11:53 »
+1

I'm entering Macro this year and very curious about what people have to say.

There are of course special circumstances and exceptions everywhere, but I would not buy a $1000 dollar coffeemaker when a similar thing of perhaps slightly inferior quality is sold for $25 everywhere.

The question is why the coffeemaker makers starting to sell their coffeemakers at $25 (or rather 25 cents) instead of $1000.

The business went global, and global competition drives the prices down. The coffeemaker maker can certainly try to sell it for $1000, but that's the last we'll hear of him.

If history teaches us anything it teaches us about the Luddite movement.
Well there was never a need to go that down, it's just stupid 5-20$ would still be consider as cheap for most buyers, these extreme low prices are just silly but the genie is out of bottle there is nothing we can do just hoping that a least footage keeps reasonable prices

ShadySue

« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2017, 14:36 »
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...

Alamy have changed their stance on this. I had some RF on Alamy from the very early days. When they changed their rules on RF to not having any non MR or PR material in the picture - they deleted my images off their site because they had sold (on Alamy) as RF and they would not then sell them as RM. (where it is OK to have non MR people in the image)

So looks as though they have changed their rules - pity they didn't let us know.
...

They did officially give that guidance here on msg, maybe a couple of years ago. I haven't seen it on their own site/blog/guidelines (maybe I missed it over there?)
What they did say here, but not in their reply to Angela quoted above, was that if you did this (delete RF and sell RM at Alamy) you had to keep a note if the file had sold before, as this might restrict exclusive uses, which are extremely rarely asked for on Alamy (e.g. I've been asked twice to confirm that images hadn't sold before and even though I was able to assert that they hadn't sold anywhere, neither sale went ahead).
« Last Edit: January 23, 2017, 14:39 by ShadySue »

« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2017, 03:13 »
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you had to keep a note if the file had sold before, as this might restrict exclusive uses, which are extremely rarely asked for on Alamy (e.g. I've been asked twice to confirm that images hadn't sold before and even though I was able to assert that they hadn't sold anywhere, neither sale went ahead).

I'm considering maybe joining Alamy. There are two images that I currently have on microstock sites that I'm thinking of removing and submitting to Alamy. I'll probably leave the rest of my photos on micro. These two photos did not sell through microstock but they have each been sold in exhibitions with large physical prints being purchased. Also one of them was published in a magazine though not as stock (it won a photography competition.) Would any of this cause any issues?


 

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