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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2013, 05:36 »
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"Participation in the Bridge to Bigstock is by invitation only. We are inviting Shutterstock contributors with high performing portfolios. .......


 I had an invitation for bridge two years ago - and my portfolio was not performing high at that time - i didn` t  join bridge...

My portfolio isn't exactly high performing, either, but it does fill a niche (editorial sports photography) and that's probably the reason why I got invited.


« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2013, 09:44 »
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They cherry picked ports based on the profile of the customers they planned on marketing them to in the future. If your images were selling well to that demographic on SS you fit the profile they were looking for. If you do not fit that profile you did not get an invite.

They will pay .38 just long enough port over the images they need to accomplish their business goals. It is going right over our heads, that BS can not continue to pay .38 royalties for your images at the prices they are charging BS buyers.

I am glad I did not join bridge. SS has devalued my assets enough, I will not devalue them further by offering files at a division of the company which has openly undercut parent company prices to gain market share in a large demographic that has historically been willing to pay more than SS is charging now.

If customers want my images they will have to buy them at a higher price @ SS or better yet a company that is not openly willing to devalue our assets to gain market share.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2013, 09:59 by gbalex »

EmberMike

« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2013, 09:59 »
+7

I'm having a hard time viewing this as just another less-than-ideal deal that I can opt to put up with because it doesn't impact anything else. In this case, the possible impact this has on my business is significant if I agree to accept this and (in theory) suggest that I'm ok with these rates elsewhere. In an isolated case, it's not that big a deal. In this case, that "elsewhere" is Shutterstock, and I feel like I'm sending them a really bad message to say that $0.29 is ok with me, at Bigstock or anywhere else.

« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2013, 17:28 »
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So is it confirmed that they are going to keep paying .38 for subs from bridge people or is this message made with love just to show that they aren't going to change the completely unrealistic RC numbers or the royalty rates?

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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2013, 16:52 »
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I used to get $1.00 sales often. Now I get lots of $0.25 sales. Not too impressed.

Batman

« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2013, 17:41 »
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And yet, some people still on the 33 cent tier got the bridge. How were those high performing portfolios?  I'm sorry, but that explanation is not a very good explanation.

You won't be able to convince me that it's fair for someone to get 38 cents while I get 27 cents, when I probably get more sales on Bigstock. I was willing to live with it for six months, not indefinitely.

I am the same and get 25 cents but some people get 38 cents. Why don't we all get the same or have the same way to join the bridge. Unfair this makes me want to close BS account remove all. I don't see why some people get more just because they are the bridge people. Why are they special? RC isn't going to work this is BS way to keep bridge people from jumping. Unfair

« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2013, 12:49 »
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You would have to buy two subscription plans at SS at the 12 month price to equal the 50 downloads per day that the 12 month BS's subscription Plan offers. 

If the buyer downloaded all 50 images at each site for .38 royalty both sites would incur a loss.  At .38 bridge royalties, the loss gap between sites is just too big. I highly doubt that BS will continue the bridge program for long.

Bigstock $4,060.59 loss
Shutterstock $2,168.58 loss

As soon and they port over the majority of the images they need for the target demographic they will drop royalties to normal BS rates.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2013, 12:52 by gbalex »

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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2013, 13:04 »
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Bridge is no longer available here was my live chat with BS.

Howdy, how can I help you?
me: I am trying to find out about the bridge to BS from SS and is it available to anymore of us over on SS?
Just a moment...

One moment please, I will be right there with you. If you are in a hurry, please feel free to leave a message.
me: No I can wait I am fine
Erick:
Hi
me: Hello
Erick: We are no longer supporting new participants to the Bridge to Bigstock
me: So then there is no way for me to upload anything I have from SS over to BS except for me to do it manually and upload everything I have over there to over here just like anyone else?
Erick: Correct.We have an independent review team
me: OK then thanks.
Erick: No problem
Sorry about that

Now I figured why not see what SS has to say so this is what I got.

And they said no longer available but I cant post it because.

Quote
This message is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail and then delete  this email and any copies of it. Under no circumstances may the contents hereof be disclosed to the public without the sender's prior written permission. (SS)

« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2013, 13:49 »
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I have been with BigStock since 2005, so I was not eligible for the 'Bridge' simply because I already had all my images on BS for years. I've been at the .38 level on SS for a long time now, so there's a good chance I would have been invited to join the Bridge if I was not already on BS to begin with. I am thoroughly disgusted with this injustice - people who joined the site YEARS after I did now receive a much better return than I do.  I came close to deleting my portfolio when they intoduced .27 subs, but just stopped uploading instead. It's a shame because I always loved BS, they treated me good, that is before SS took it over and ruined it. Just like iStock did with StockXpert. It's like a reoccurring nightmare you can't wake up from. >:(

« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2013, 15:12 »
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I have been with BigStock since 2005, so I was not eligible for the 'Bridge' simply because I already had all my images on BS for years. I've been at the .38 level on SS for a long time now, so there's a good chance I would have been invited to join the Bridge if I was not already on BS to begin with. I am thoroughly disgusted with this injustice - people who joined the site YEARS after I did now receive a much better return than I do.  I came close to deleting my portfolio when they intoduced .27 subs, but just stopped uploading instead. It's a shame because I always loved BS, they treated me good, that is before SS took it over and ruined it. Just like iStock did with StockXpert. It's like a reoccurring nightmare you can't wake up from. >:(

They just used it to get the images they want ported over.  I doubt very much that they will honor those .38 rates indefinitely since doing so will cause them to lose money at the very low subscription $.16 prices they are charging for each image download.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2013, 15:20 by gbalex »

« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2013, 10:48 »
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How about they announce how long they plan to continue unfair treatment for the loyal contributors who have taken their time to upload and keyword directly to their site?

« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2013, 10:55 »
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How about they announce how long they plan to continue unfair treatment for the loyal contributors who have taken their time to upload and keyword directly to their site?

as simple as that but it will never happen, "we" accepted crap after crap and "we" still submit to them so why would anything change? (unless it is for the worst which is already happening with most exclusives, not even going to mention indies because those are in the trash bin for a long time)

p.s: I was thinking you were talking about iStock
« Last Edit: August 31, 2013, 11:02 by luissantos84 »

« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2013, 14:31 »
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How about they announce how long they plan to continue unfair treatment for the loyal contributors who have taken their time to upload and keyword directly to their site?

as simple as that but it will never happen, "we" accepted crap after crap and "we" still submit to them so why would anything change? (unless it is for the worst which is already happening with most exclusives, not even going to mention indies because those are in the trash bin for a long time)

p.s: I was thinking you were talking about iStock

Isn't it clear from their actions who you are dealing with. They are not honest or fair and they have no intention of letting us know what their plans are because those plans are not in our best interest.

The owners of BS are no longer involved, read the quarterly reports. Instead we are dealing with the wall street crowd Jon has chosen to surround himself with.

I no longer contribute to IS or BS. We teach these micro sites how to treat us, by what we are willing to accept. We will have no one to blame but our selves, if we willingly participate in the planned downward spiral.

« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2013, 14:36 »
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Well isn't that cute.  There was absolutely no announcement about that being no longer available completely underhanded.

I quit uploading there awhile back as I was getting very little or no return for my efforts.

Seems to me like the strings are being pulled by the shareholders and it's all about keeping them happy.  Going to hell in a hand basket that's for sure.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2013, 14:02 »
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Just a confirmation of the same. I had to ask today, while I was doing some DVD work and bored.

"I wondered what was going on with the "Bridge" from Shutterstock? I haven't seen any news about additions or opening it up to more people."
Can you tell me anything about the Bridge programs future?"


"This program has been phased out and is no longer in operation. This program was entirely controlled by Shutterstock."

Just that one small bit (controlled by SS) added that they didn't tell ruxpriencdiam.




Well isn't that cute.  There was absolutely no announcement about that being no longer available completely underhanded.

I quit uploading there awhile back as I was getting very little or no return for my efforts.

Seems to me like the strings are being pulled by the shareholders and it's all about keeping them happy.  Going to hell in a hand basket that's for sure.

« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2013, 15:17 »
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So are they still giving .38 to the bridge people? (so basically everyone else is subsidizing them)

I wonder when they think it will be safe for them to yank that and drop everyone (or nearly everyone) with their RC plan.

« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2013, 15:19 »
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time to think about getting your own sites people - where you are in control

« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2013, 16:27 »
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Just a confirmation of the same. I had to ask today, while I was doing some DVD work and bored.

"I wondered what was going on with the "Bridge" from Shutterstock? I haven't seen any news about additions or opening it up to more people."
Can you tell me anything about the Bridge programs future?"


"This program has been phased out and is no longer in operation. This program was entirely controlled by Shutterstock."

Just that one small bit (controlled by SS) added that they didn't tell ruxpriencdiam.




Well isn't that cute.  There was absolutely no announcement about that being no longer available completely underhanded.

I quit uploading there awhile back as I was getting very little or no return for my efforts.

Seems to me like the strings are being pulled by the shareholders and it's all about keeping them happy.  Going to hell in a hand basket that's for sure.

It may be phased out for new entrants but they still actively pipeline my images straight to Bigstock, so that part of it is still active. I am still getting 38 cents from BigStock but expect that to go away eventually, sooner or later, once they expose the strategy behind that RC system.

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« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2013, 22:06 »
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Bigstock sucks big time and my low earnings have been roughly the same as last year.

« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2013, 06:50 »
+1
I removed my images at the beginning of this month. The sales did not warrant the upload  time.

Norma


 

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