Author Topic: Neverending small agency crookery. I'm used to it, yet get surprised over&over (Read 7335 times)

wut · « **on:** June 02, 2012, 06:07 »

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Please Note: Due to transaction costs, a 2.5% fee will be deducted from your payment.
This fee only applies to Moneybooker payments.

On top of the already pathetic earnings, volume and RPD are negligible.

wut · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2012, 06:14 »

It's like going to a restaurant and waiter saying to you just before you enter your PIN:"Due to transaction costs, a 2.5% fee will be deducted from your payment.
This fee only applies to Mastercard payments". Can you even imagine that in the real world? They can, because they know, no one will stab them with a fork in the neck (in other words, that they can get away with it, at least once).

*, these agencies are so blinded and shortsighted. I haven't seen a worse business practice when it comes to such big amounts of money turned, not every day, but every hour.

qwerty · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2012, 06:24 »

I assume that you can still use paypal for no fee ??

Doesnt seem like a huge issue.

Have you tried to buy a plane ticket off some airlines. There's a fee for using a credit card even though there is no other way pay.

If its so pathetic why participate ?? just close your account and find small change on the street

wut · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2012, 06:31 »

Because I don't have a paypal account, I don't need it. So I'm supposed to go through all the hassle of opening a new account, because they're crooks? They didn't even notify their contributors about it. Some thieves are more honorable.

I don't upload to sites outside top 4 anymore and as I said am just waiting to go exclusive with SS (if the offer it after IPO) or IS (if earnings will keep on rising in the next 5 months, that my images are still locked in at DT).

sharpshot · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2012, 07:01 »

Opening a PayPal account would probably be less hassle than starting a crazy ranting thread here. Calling them crooks is ridiculous. I'd rather they didn't have the MB fee but that's not breaking the law.

Mantis · « **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2012, 07:15 »

Quote from: sharpshot on June 02, 2012, 07:01

Opening a PayPal account would probably be less hassle than starting a crazy ranting thread here. Calling them crooks is ridiculous. I'd rather they didn't have the MB fee but that's not breaking the law.

I don't use MB but I have used PP for years as an EBAY seller/buyer, book author (selling online option), MS, and MANY other online transactions. The only problem I have ever had with them was self induced when I added another email address. I had a chunk of money Paypal'd to that new address but it never showed up in my account. I called the help line and within a few minutes they simply added that email to my account and BAM....there was my money. Never any fees. I am very happy with their functionality and customer service. I wouldn't change because of their reliability and service levels. Maybe it's different in other countries, but for me one less thing to worry about is a big benefit.

wut · « **Reply #6 on:** June 02, 2012, 07:16 »

I don't get you sharpshot, I really don't. You're the biggest complainer around here, threatning to leave micro all the time, yet you decide to defend their obviously bad and unfair business practice (if there was an announcemnts it.at least wouldn't be unfair, since everybody could decide for themselves).

wut · « **Reply #7 on:** June 02, 2012, 07:35 »

Regarding paypal afaik there is a fee and no credit card option, ar least not widely accepted one like mastercard. I remember looking for new agencies last year and not having a MB option was a dealbreaker for me

sharpshot · « **Reply #8 on:** June 02, 2012, 08:26 »

Quote from: wut on June 02, 2012, 07:16

I don't get you sharpshot, I really don't. You're the biggest complainer around here, threatning to leave micro all the time, yet you decide to defend their obviously bad and unfair business practice (if there was an announcemnts it.at least wouldn't be unfair, since everybody could decide for themselves).

There's a big difference between unfair and what you call "crookery". Compared to the thousands of dollars lost in commission cuts with other sites, a fee that you don't necessarily have to pay is a non issue. Some sites don't even offer MB. I use MB because they have better currency rates but they do cause problems for some sites, so I just use PayPal with them.

The title to this thread is so stupid, I'll just have to ignore your rants from now on. I'm sure you've been here before and that ended nastily, so I'll leave you to it.

wut · « **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2012, 09:17 »

Quote from: sharpshot on June 02, 2012, 08:26

Quote from: wut on June 02, 2012, 07:16
I don't get you sharpshot, I really don't. You're the biggest complainer around here, threatning to leave micro all the time, yet you decide to defend their obviously bad and unfair business practice (if there was an announcemnts it.at least wouldn't be unfair, since everybody could decide for themselves).
There's a big difference between unfair and what you call "crookery". Compared to the thousands of dollars lost in commission cuts with other sites, a fee that you don't necessarily have to pay is a non issue. Some sites don't even offer MB. I use MB because they have better currency rates but they do cause problems for some sites, so I just use PayPal with them.

The title to this thread is so stupid, I'll just have to ignore your rants from now on. I'm sure you've been here before and that ended nastily, so I'll leave you to it.

It's not the title that's stupid

(you obviously aren't able to get the point)

That being said, I'm not sure why I haven't put you on ignore so far, not a single useful post from you and you sound like a broken record, I know what you're going to say before I even read your post. Predictably boring and useless.

reckless · « **Reply #10 on:** June 02, 2012, 09:24 »

I have a paypal account with a mastercard debit card that is backed up with a credit account, all at no fee.

wut · « **Reply #11 on:** June 02, 2012, 09:32 »

Quote from: reckless on June 02, 2012, 09:24

I have a paypal account with a mastercard debit card that is backed up with a credit account, all at no fee.

Well that's interesting. I guess I must have missed something back then, or it's like that just for some countries (or you got some promotion). Anyways, I'm not doing that just because of CS, afterall you do have to pay 10$ for mastercard, at least that's the case at MB. And also, I'm not going for the 3rd debit card, it becomes just as confusing as uploading to 30 sites

cathyslife · « **Reply #12 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:08 »

Quote from: wut on June 02, 2012, 09:32

Quote from: reckless on June 02, 2012, 09:24
I have a paypal account with a mastercard debit card that is backed up with a credit account, all at no fee.

Well that's interesting. I guess I must have missed something back then, or it's like that just for some countries (or you got some promotion). Anyways, I'm not doing that just because of CS, afterall you do have to pay 10$ for mastercard, at least that's the case at MB. And also, I'm not going for the 3rd debit card, it becomes just as confusing as uploading to 30 sites

I do think the pay pal fees are different for different countries. I am in the US, and pay no fees. I don't have a PP MC, but every time I log in they try to get me to get one.

I signed up for MB a couple of years back when istock couldn't make payouts because of some problem they had with pay pal. The first payout I got had fees deducted. I never used it again. So I think they have been charging fees for quite a while...at least for me in the US. Again, maybe different for different countries?

wut · « **Reply #13 on:** June 02, 2012, 12:15 »

No fees whatsoever in EU. Unless you withdraw at the atm, but these are MC fees really

stockastic · « **Reply #14 on:** June 02, 2012, 12:32 »

PayPal, VISA, all the money brokers have been ratcheting up the fees for years. Some brick-and-mortar retailers are kicking back by offering discounts for cash or check. These unreasonable "processing" fees are one reason paper checks haven't gone away, and may not go away anytime soon.

lisafx · « **Reply #15 on:** June 02, 2012, 14:02 »

Quote from: cclapper on June 02, 2012, 11:08

I signed up for MB a couple of years back when istock couldn't make payouts because of some problem they had with pay pal. The first payout I got had fees deducted. I never used it again. So I think they have been charging fees for quite a while...at least for me in the US. Again, maybe different for different countries?

I've been using Moneybookers for a couple of years now. They used to charge a flat 2.54 (or something like that) to transfer money TO my bank, and that's regardless of how much I transfer. I would only do the transfer once or twice a month, so the fee wasn't a big deal. Recently they got rid of that fee altogether, so now using it is free for me here in the US.

So for anyone afraid to use moneybookers, it's now free in the US if you have a personal account (I can't speak for other countries or types of accounts).

cathyslife · « **Reply #16 on:** June 02, 2012, 14:12 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 02, 2012, 14:02

Quote from: cclapper on June 02, 2012, 11:08

I signed up for MB a couple of years back when istock couldn't make payouts because of some problem they had with pay pal. The first payout I got had fees deducted. I never used it again. So I think they have been charging fees for quite a while...at least for me in the US. Again, maybe different for different countries?

I've been using Moneybookers for a couple of years now. They used to charge a flat 2.54 (or something like that) to transfer money TO my bank, and that's regardless of how much I transfer. I would only do the transfer once or twice a month, so the fee wasn't a big deal. Recently they got rid of that fee altogether, so now using it is free for me here in the US.

So for anyone afraid to use moneybookers, it's now free in the US if you have a personal account (I can't speak for other countries or types of accounts).

Good to know. Who ever heard of a financial company getting rid of fees?

Good news for a change!

lisafx · « **Reply #17 on:** June 02, 2012, 14:16 »

Quote from: cclapper on June 02, 2012, 14:12

Good to know. Who ever heard of a financial company getting rid of fees? Good news for a change!

Right?! I guess the fees chased away enough customers, they decided to lure them back

The fees would have kept me away too, except that when Paypal was forced to start 1099ing people who received over a certain number of payments, I decided to diversify my payouts. Now I have about half my sites paying through PP and half through MB, and I was saved the extra hassle of getting 1099s from two different sources for the same money.

I'm glad I did too, considering that PP issued those 1099s so late that a lot of people had already finished their taxes and had to file amended returns.

cthoman · « **Reply #18 on:** June 02, 2012, 15:51 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 02, 2012, 14:16

I'm glad I did too, considering that PP issued those 1099s so late that a lot of people had already finished their taxes and had to file amended returns.

I think most of that was just a practice run. It looks like the IRS pushed back the 1099K filings until 2013. I guess they got swamped with too much paperwork.

cathyslife · « **Reply #19 on:** June 02, 2012, 17:20 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 02, 2012, 14:16

Quote from: cclapper on June 02, 2012, 14:12

Good to know. Who ever heard of a financial company getting rid of fees? Good news for a change!

Right?! I guess the fees chased away enough customers, they decided to lure them back

The fees would have kept me away too, except that when Paypal was forced to start 1099ing people who received over a certain number of payments, I decided to diversify my payouts. Now I have about half my sites paying through PP and half through MB, and I was saved the extra hassle of getting 1099s from two different sources for the same money.

I'm glad I did too, considering that PP issued those 1099s so late that a lot of people had already finished their taxes and had to file amended returns.

Makes perfect sense for you. I don't have those worries.

wut · « **Reply #20 on:** June 02, 2012, 17:34 »

Quote from: cclapper on June 02, 2012, 17:20

Quote from: lisafx on June 02, 2012, 14:16
Quote from: cclapper on June 02, 2012, 14:12

Good to know. Who ever heard of a financial company getting rid of fees? Good news for a change!

Right?! I guess the fees chased away enough customers, they decided to lure them back

The fees would have kept me away too, except that when Paypal was forced to start 1099ing people who received over a certain number of payments, I decided to diversify my payouts. Now I have about half my sites paying through PP and half through MB, and I was saved the extra hassle of getting 1099s from two different sources for the same money.

I'm glad I did too, considering that PP issued those 1099s so late that a lot of people had already finished their taxes and had to file amended returns.

Makes perfect sense for you. I don't have those worries.

I just wish it'll get so outta hand one day that I'll run out of options

ThomasAmby · « **Reply #21 on:** June 02, 2012, 18:18 »

I like CanStockPhoto.. Earning wise they are way ahead of Dreamstime for me, and they have always been.. Each and every month with them has been a delight..
If you had, let's say $190.6 in your account and asked for a payout they would send you $191 ( That has changed just now, however.. Just goes to show that they are not crooks at all)..

I have always liked them.. For some reason though, their "instant downloads" have taken off for me, while their credit sales have dropped to a zero lately.. I've been wanting to make a thread about this but I won't complain since sales haven't been entirely bad ever since, almost the same, but maybe they just changed business strategy.... Take a look, maybe you will recognize the pattern? I don't understand it, but I'm not complaining at all..

wut · « **Reply #22 on:** June 02, 2012, 19:52 »

Quote from: ThomasAmby on June 02, 2012, 18:18

If you had, let's say $190.6 in your account and asked for a payout they would send you $191 ( That has changed just now, however.. Just goes to show that they are not crooks at all)..

How does that show they're not crooks at all? And what about 2.5% deduction of your earnings?

qwerty · « **Reply #23 on:** June 02, 2012, 20:43 »

Quote from: wut on June 02, 2012, 19:52

Quote from: ThomasAmby on June 02, 2012, 18:18
If you had, let's say $190.6 in your account and asked for a payout they would send you $191 ( That has changed just now, however.. Just goes to show that they are not crooks at all)..

How does that show they're not crooks at all? And what about 2.5% deduction of your earnings?

get over it and move onto your next thread calling someone a muppet or a crook

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