Quote from: EmberMike on September 08, 2012, 23:22

Quote from: stan on September 08, 2012, 17:26

I you said I was flat out wrong, you didn't say why. Highest commissions from small companies?!? Name 1, for photos of course. And that has the volume as well, or else even a 10$ RPD doesn't help much (which you don't get anyway). You say gross generilazations based on my opinion, but what are you basing your post on?

Sure the small companies make better pricing. For the buyers

Be specific, tell something, don't just talk for talk's sake

I can't comment specifically on photo sales as I'm not a photographer, but here's what I'm talking about (and most of these sites sell photos as well as vectors):

StockFresh. $10 vector sales, $5 in my pocket for each one, over $100 per month total earnings.

GL. $6-$15 vector pricing (set by contributor, option to set it higher). $3.60 - $7.80 per sale, good sales volume.

GraphicRiver. 33% royalty (not great but more than double what istock will be paying me next year). 2nd highest earner last month in total earnings for me, behind SS, out of 20 sites I sell at.

Unnamed site (I'm not giving away any secrets), it's not even on the poll list. Over $3,000 in earnings there so far this year.

Veer. I saw a ton of $7 royalties last month, a good number of $2-$5 royalties. Significant growth in the last few months. Veer will probably move ahead of DT on my list soon.

My earnings from middle and low tier sites last month represented 30% of my total.

These sites are far from bottom feeders. They pay no worse than the worst of the top 4, percentage wise and in some cases in total earnings for me. And I sure as heck wouldn't want to do without the 30% of my income that comes from the small sites.

You can hate on small sites for whatever reason. And I'm not interested in convincing anyone that they should participate in them. But I'm not ok with anyone making these general claims about all small site based on your opinion of how a few of the bad ones operate. These sites are important, and I think it's reckless and damaging to the industry to discourage people from looking into them because you say they all pay poorly.

How about you let people decide for themselves? Why try to discourage people from trying smaller sites that, in some cases and contrary to your generalization, do pay well, do offer good deals for contributors, and do not contribute to this "race to the bottom" you're so concerned with?

And since we're being "specific" as you asked, how about you be specific about which sites you think are bad for the business, and why.

You see. I stopped reading right after you said you weren't a tog. Irrelevant info for me

The images were downloaded under the Extended License.
We have finally integrated the option to make the Images under Extended License unavailable for the Partner sales.
So please let me know if you want to disable the option - Partner Sales.

I'm a small fish.

What are these "specific uses"? We need to know so we can decide if it acceptable to sell a license for the use for a couple of dollars a shot.