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Agency Based Discussion => DepositPhotos => Topic started by: ayzek on May 23, 2012, 05:48
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Hi all,
After working nearly one year with DP. I decide to deactivate my files and delete them from DP.
When i ask them to delete my file they told me they can not delete my files it will stay deactivated . She told me that its writing in their rules. ???
And her message is:
Dear Ayzek,
thank you for the quick response.
Unfortunately,
these are our rules, and they are equal for all photographers. As I've
mentioned earlier, your photos can not be deleted, they have to be in
your account for the statistics, and they are not visible for visitors
and customers.
We will deactivate your account, but in case you
change your mind we are always open for cooperation.
Best
regards,
Olga
Now they deactivate my account and i can not reach my account. Also they are not deleting my files.
Do they have right to do that. >:(
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Oh dear. Saw this coming but still a kick in the teeth. Can't find anything of the sort in the illegals. In fact section 7 says all your images will be deleted if they terminate so clearly they can do it and I would think are legally obliged to do it if you ask. Good luck getting them to do it though. The contract is full of "we can do what we like" clauses
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Thats the kind of info that makes me want to leave the agency.
Jeeez... how are we being abused!
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Yup. When you go to your files there is only a deactivate option, not a delete option. If they want to gain some credibility they will address this and engineer a way to actually delete files. Having them "float" around somewhere scares me.
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I'm sure I've come across this elsewhere. Isn't it standard for agencies to keep at least a thumbnail for their records? I assume there is some legal reason for it, though I don't know what it is. As long as it stays buried in the archive and nobody can access it, I don't see it as a problem. But, of course, that depends on you believing that the agency will behave honestly.
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The reason is for statistic of my acount ???
if they close my acount why do they need to keep my images for my acount statistic?
They can keep file id for the statistics. they dont need my images for closed acount statistic or their statistics :(
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Yup. When you go to your files there is only a deactivate option, not a delete option. If they want to gain some credibility they will address this and engineer a way to actually delete files. Having them "float" around somewhere scares me.
i remember that there were delete option 6-7 month before in deactivated files page. So they change the rules without warning.
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they might have some internal cooperate IT-ish reason, but it doesnt hold water.
The system always has to be working with the laws.
Else it begins to smell of abuse and Nigerian scam.
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But, of course, that depends on you believing that the agency will behave honestly.
If the agency was dishonest they could tell you they have deleted the images and not delete them. That's the risk we all take when uploading images to sites.
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Bad news. Another point I will take into account .. I am currently thinking of stopping to support them too. Mainly because they are too cheap.
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thats right.
But it IS funny how flaws in IT systems always work to the benifit of the agency.
Think cell phone and internet suppliers.
They are all so full of S***, and the money always flows in their direction in case of doubt.
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I found out the hard way as well...I had my account closed about a year and a half ago, then at the beginning of this year they seem to be doing better as far as sales, so I contacted them and ask to have my account re-instated again, to my surprise all of my photos where still there as well as some money from sales that had accumulated while my account was closed.
My advise is, stop uploading new photos to the site, but keep your account active so that you can keep track of any under the table type sales, otherwise you'll never know if your deactivated photos made some money.
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After hearing this, I wouldn't touch this site with a 10 foot pole.
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Thanks for posting this. I was on the verge of signing up. :P
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Glad I could be of some help to you guys :D...is like checking in to a hospital and coming out -1 kidney, just cause, they need it to prove you where there, and besides you may need it at some time in your life, so they want to hold it for you. ;D
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Glad I could be of some help to you guys :D...is like checking in to a hospital and coming out -1 kidney, just cause, they need it to prove you where there, and besides you may need it at some time in your life, so they want to hold it for you. ;D
That's a pretty good comparison! Well done ;D
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I needed another reason to leave the site. This will do just fine. Thanks!
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On the contributor agreement, http://submit.depositphotos.com/supply-agreement.html (http://submit.depositphotos.com/supply-agreement.html) :
12. TERMINATION EFFECT
In case of termination of this Agreement, in accordance with the authorities granted under this agreement, Depositphotos shall cease collaboration in the following ways:
During the 30 (thirty) days prior to the Agreement termination, Depositphotos shall remove from the Site all files and files uploaded by the Contributor;
Notwithstanding the fact of termination, Depositphotos has the ability and right to continue the licensing of any already accepted files until their removal from the Site;
Upon the expiration of the Agreement and after its termination, according to the terms and provisions of this Agreement, Depositphotos shall pay compensation due to the Contributor for licenses issued to Purchasers during the transitional period in accordance with all the rights stated in this Agreement or required by law.
From what I think, is that, after 30 days, they can't even have images of an account terminated... Can't we do anything by legal means? ???
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I found out the hard way as well...I had my account closed about a year and a half ago, then at the beginning of this year they seem to be doing better as far as sales, so I contacted them and ask to have my account re-instated again, to my surprise all of my photos where still there as well as some money from sales that had accumulated while my account was closed.
My advise is, stop uploading new photos to the site, but keep your account active so that you can keep track of any under the table type sales, otherwise you'll never know if your deactivated photos made some money.
Wait, what?!? Do you se what's happening here? :o
That's what you get if you're dealing with these small ripoff agencies >:(
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Hi,
I'm sorry, but we're all different.
I don't think Deposit Photos is 'small' anymore, I don't think they rip me off more than other sites (IStock for example), and I don't mind them deactivating my images instead of deleting them.
It's a feature that in my opinion has the potential to come in handy at some point.
I do not worry about Deposit Photos being somewhat shady, illegal or looking to grab my images and run.
In fact, I like doing business with them.
Solid, good commissions, growing sales and easy to deal with.
There you go.
As I said, we're all different :)
best,
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You're right Eireann.
I mean, all this negative - pseudopragmatic - s**t is typicall for this forum.
Whats the problem with you guys? DP is a good company, they are self-sustainable and even if I just earn 50$ a month now, uploading costs nothing!
You guys really have a problem and deserve to get bled out by guys like istock.
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You're right Eireann.
I mean, all this negative - pseudopragmatic - s**t is typicall for this forum.
Whats the problem with you guys? DP is a good company, they are self-sustainable and even if I just earn 50$ a month now, uploading costs nothing!
You guys really have a problem and deserve to get bled out by guys like istock.
Good one ;)
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:D :D :D :D :D ;D
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You're right Eireann.
I mean, all this negative - pseudopragmatic - s**t is typicall for this forum.
Whats the problem with you guys? DP is a good company, they are self-sustainable and even if I just earn 50$ a month now, uploading costs nothing!
You guys really have a problem and deserve to get bled out by guys like istock.
Good one ;)
I didn't want to point it out in hope we're going to get a serious reply to that ;D
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actually other agencies can say they will remove our pictures but in the end how can we be sure of that? will we get into their servers and see for ourself?
honestly I don't see a problem with having files deactivated
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On the contributor agreement, [url]http://submit.depositphotos.com/supply-agreement.html[/url] ([url]http://submit.depositphotos.com/supply-agreement.html[/url]) :
12. TERMINATION EFFECT
In case of termination of this Agreement, in accordance with the authorities granted under this agreement, Depositphotos shall cease collaboration in the following ways:
During the 30 (thirty) days prior to the Agreement termination, Depositphotos shall remove from the Site all files and files uploaded by the Contributor;
Notwithstanding the fact of termination, Depositphotos has the ability and right to continue the licensing of any already accepted files until their removal from the Site;
Upon the expiration of the Agreement and after its termination, according to the terms and provisions of this Agreement, Depositphotos shall pay compensation due to the Contributor for licenses issued to Purchasers during the transitional period in accordance with all the rights stated in this Agreement or required by law.
From what I think, is that, after 30 days, they can't even have images of an account terminated... Can't we do anything by legal means? ???
I just send this to her and asked her to activate my account and delete my deactivated files in 30 day period. To day my account is online and my files are also online ???
Asked her again deactivate all files and delete them in 30 day period.
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On the contributor agreement, [url]http://submit.depositphotos.com/supply-agreement.html[/url] ([url]http://submit.depositphotos.com/supply-agreement.html[/url]) :
12. TERMINATION EFFECT
In case of termination of this Agreement, in accordance with the authorities granted under this agreement, Depositphotos shall cease collaboration in the following ways:
During the 30 (thirty) days prior to the Agreement termination, Depositphotos shall remove from the Site all files and files uploaded by the Contributor;
Notwithstanding the fact of termination, Depositphotos has the ability and right to continue the licensing of any already accepted files until their removal from the Site;
Upon the expiration of the Agreement and after its termination, according to the terms and provisions of this Agreement, Depositphotos shall pay compensation due to the Contributor for licenses issued to Purchasers during the transitional period in accordance with all the rights stated in this Agreement or required by law.
From what I think, is that, after 30 days, they can't even have images of an account terminated... Can't we do anything by legal means? ???
I just send this to her and asked her to activate my account and delete my deactivated files in 30 day period. To day my account is online and my files are also online ???
Asked her again deactivate all files and delete them in 30 day period.
What's your problem? You asked them to reactivate your account, now they have 30 days to remove the files within the rules.
The question is, how will you know whether they have deleted them or just deactivated them? Are you going to try to get a court order to search their database once the files are no longer visible?
You really are building mountains out of molehills over this.
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I just send this to her and asked her to activate my account and delete my deactivated files in 30 day period. To day my account is online and my files are also online ???
Asked her again deactivate all files and delete them in 30 day period.
With a little bit of patience, they will do it. Once, on a particular agency, I got my images deleted after 24 hours of being online. On agreement they would be deleted only after 6 months...
Anyway, even without regular sales ( yet ) on DP, it appear to have some potential. Dunno reasons behind Your decision, but probably You haven't nothing to loose have Your account online.
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It's somehow funny, look into all complaints, made several months ago, about the "legality" of DP. How fast people change opinion ;D
ETA: He was gone... dam II need write faster in future reply's :D
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It's somehow funny, look into all complaints, made several months ago, about the "legality" of DP. How fast people change opinion ;D
We didn't all change our opinion. I never did go with DP as I still feel uneasy about this agency in spite of others' success there. Each to his own though.
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It's somehow funny, look into all complaints, made several months ago, about the "legality" of DP. How fast people change opinion ;D
We didn't all change our opinion. I never did go with DP as I still feel uneasy about this agency in spite of others' success there. Each to his own though.
I'm speaking about "general opinion".. not anyone particularly.
But I see that as an "positive mind change". If people trust more on DP, maybe they understood how DP it's safer as any other agency.
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It would be great having some official statement from DP here. They have posted here before, so this would be a good opportunity to (re)gain some more trust.
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Personally I don't think folks change of hearts is a matter of trust, but a matter of sales, hey business is business and you have to go where the money is, even if at times you have to work with with people/companies that you trust only as far as you can throw them... ;)...that pretty much covers all agencies big and small IMO...
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They delete my files without 30 days waiting period.
I think there is some misunderstood. She just understand wrongly or missed to explain something to me while she were telling they can not delete my files.
Thank you very much to DP worker and people in here who help to solve this problem.
Kind Regards,
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It's somehow funny, look into all complaints, made several months ago, about the "legality" of DP. How fast people change opinion ;D
We didn't all change our opinion. I never did go with DP as I still feel uneasy about this agency in spite of others' success there. Each to his own though.
+1
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I don't mind deactivating instead of deleting. It gives you an option to come back if you change your mind. I'm new at DP, but I think they're fine. If communication is problematic just make sure they understand what you need to do. I don't think there's anything wrong with their legality.
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I don't mind deactivating instead of deleting. It gives you an option to come back if you change your mind. I'm new at DP, but I think they're fine. If communication is problematic just make sure they understand what you need to do. I don't think there's anything wrong with their legality.
It's not legality per se, it's scumbaggery. I am guilty. I am with them and nothing pisses me off more than a broken promise of them saying they would promote my port if I signed up with them. Now, I never believed them, but I took the chance anyhow. I am in that zone in which I get a lot of 30 cent downloads but not much of anything else. Personally, DP and PD are two really loosey goosey sites. I drank the cool aid.
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Yes, most of my sales generate 30c too, but then SS is not very different in that respect. I think that in the long run this price war will hurt the entire community.
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I am guilty. I am with them and nothing pisses me off more than a broken promise of them saying they would promote my port if I signed up with them. Now, I never believed them, but I took the chance anyhow. I am in that zone in which I get a lot of 30 cent downloads but not much of anything else. Personally, DP and PD are two really loosey goosey sites. I drank the cool aid.
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The vast majority of my sales are 30 cent downloads, too. I stopped uploading a few weeks ago, the payout is just too low.
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I think every contributor's mileage varies.
60% out of my last 10 downloads at DP were credit sales which may not be typical for many.
I have a good 1100+ images on there and easily get a monthly payout.
Same for PD 900 files, monthly payout.
Still in the process of getting my port up there but I can't complain.
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I think every contributor's mileage varies.
60% out of my last 10 downloads at DP were credit sales which may not be typical for many.
I have a good 1100+ images on there and easily get a monthly payout.
Same for PD 900 files, monthly payout.
Still in the process of getting my port up there but I can't complain.
That sounds promising. 28% of mine are subs credit sales.