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WarrenPrice

« on: December 22, 2009, 11:53 »
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I've just disabled everything that is more than ONE year old without having a sale.  If DT can take a unsold four-year-old image and move it to the FREE section without your permission ... what next?  What's to stop them from moving any image they want? 

I wonder what ever happened to the images posted there by RJMiz????  Is there a way to search for his images on DT?


BTW:  I see they are now pushing FREE images on Facebook.


vonkara

« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2009, 12:16 »
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Maybe you can disable them when they are moved... Are they do any kind of notification? I know I would never give my images for free on Facebook. Those people aren't designers and don't know the limitation of uses

WarrenPrice

« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2009, 12:23 »
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Maybe you can disable them when they are moved... Are they do any kind of notification? I know I would never give my images for free on Facebook. Those people aren't designers and don't know the limitation of uses

Sorry... didn't mean to indicate that the images were on Facebook.  Just meant that DT is using Facebook to advertise Free Images at the DT site.   :-[

vonkara

« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2009, 12:27 »
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Ok got it now lol... Still I don't know the advantage

« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2009, 12:41 »
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Dreamstime has been notifying me that I havent sold this image in four years
I can ether move it to the free section or disable the file.  You can click on to
Your upload section in your account find all you free images and disable them.
I plan on going thru all my oldies and re keyword them all. ;D

« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2009, 13:34 »
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One year? That seems a little crazy to me. Why not wait at least 2 or 3? What's the saying, "cutting off your nose to spite your face"?

I did see Achilles saying that 90% of images notified were going to the free section which I thought was kind of scary.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 13:36 by cthoman »

« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2009, 13:43 »
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Hi Warren,
I think you're rushing a bit. There's no reason to disable your 1 year old images (unless you don't want them in your port anymore). DT is not going to give them away for free over night.
Also I think I remember Achilles saying something about an option. When you receive your notification you need to tick 'Disable All' once only. From that moment on all your selected images are disabled automatically and nothing goes for free.
But I agree, Free Images must be kept under control and to a minimum low.

« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2009, 13:58 »
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I've just disabled everything that is more than ONE year old without having a sale.
Ah, you must throw your Bordeaux red wines away too after one year since they taste sour.  :P
No worries, le Beaujolais nouveau est arriv !
« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 14:00 by FD-amateur »

WarrenPrice

« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2009, 14:50 »
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I'm new at this.  It is hard to know who to trust or not.  When the FREE announcement was made, I could not understand the default being FREE vice Disable.  It still doesn't make sense.  I feel very strongly about this.   How does DT have the right to TAKE an image without specific approval?  If I heard a satisfactory answer, maybe it would generate some trust.  Until that default is set to Disable, I cannot trust DT. 

TAKING a four year old image sets the precedent.  Once established, there is no reason not to TAKE any image they choose ... regardless of age.

I'm sure you guys are right.  I am over-reacting.  Consider it a protest.  A very insignificant protest but I can't just "take it."   >:(

« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 14:59 »
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I'm sure you guys are right.  I am over-reacting.  Consider it a protest.
I have been one reacting strongly on the DT forum itself, and Achilles took all the reactions into account. I have this habit to confront people directly. The rules were changed in that once you make a choice disable/free, this choice stays the default. Unless you don't read DT email in years, there is no chance any more that your images will become free "by accident".

« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2009, 15:08 »
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Does it mean that if you haven't sex for a year, you need to ....  :o :o :o :'( :P ???
« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 15:10 by borg »

« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2009, 15:36 »
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i think your rushing things warren ,i had a sale today on a image which was uploaded exactly 12months ago today first sale

iam was new back then ,bad keywording is prolly why it took that image  so long to sell . merry christmas and a happy new year .

« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2009, 16:16 »
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A very insignificant protest but I can't just "take it."

I totally get your reaction and your protest. I was perturbed by that announcement too.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2009, 16:31 »
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I'm sure you guys are right.  I am over-reacting.  Consider it a protest.
I have been one reacting strongly on the DT forum itself, and Achilles took all the reactions into account. I have this habit to confront people directly. The rules were changed in that once you make a choice disable/free, this choice stays the default. Unless you don't read DT email in years, there is no chance any more that your images will become free "by accident".


So did I, FD.  So much so that my post was deleted and my discussion with Achilles wound up in the Private Comments. 
My point is that none of this is "by accident." 

I repeat ... what has happened to the images of RJMIZ.  I doubt that he gets emails ... He died.  Does he default to FREE?




« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2009, 03:23 »
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So did I, FD.  So much so that my post was deleted and my discussion with Achilles wound up in the Private Comments. 
My point is that none of this is "by accident." 
Like banks and bond emitters, DT plays on the "dead" money. About 2% of the bonds money is never collected since old Auntie kept the shares under the bed and the ants or the dog ate it when she got Alzheimer.

I repeat ... what has happened to the images of RJMIZ.  I doubt that he gets emails ... He died.  Does he default to FREE?
Yes, unless his heirs read the email. As far as I understood, he had none. There was a friend that inherited his PC with all his tutorials but that friend had no clue how to save those, as was found out when he posted on some forums (this one?) under RJMIZ nick.
DT does the same as all banks and bond emitters. What should they do then? Burn the money or the images? They will keep RJMIZ earnings too, unless somebody shows up with conclusive proof that he is an heir.

« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2009, 08:24 »
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I am being asked by DT about such images, and so far I disabled a few. I don't bother going and disabling old images on my own, only do that when prompted by DT.

traveler1116

« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2009, 01:51 »
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Disable them all is my advice.  I'm down to less than 50 images there and can't wait to get the rest off.

« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2009, 03:57 »
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I'm down to less than 50 images there and can't wait to get the rest off.
Why? Are you on the Road to Serfdom;)

traveler1116

« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2009, 12:58 »
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I'm down to less than 50 images there and can't wait to get the rest off.
Why? Are you on the Road to Serfdom;)

Hopefully a better paying serfdom but only time will tell.

alias

« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2009, 13:10 »
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DT is using Facebook to advertise Free Images at the DT site.   :-[

The advertising you see relates to the profile of you which the advertising spooks build as they track you around the web. Your cookies, flash cookies etc. You visit lots of stock sites so you are seeing adverts for stock. And probably gadgets too.

FWIW I often get adverts for muslim marriage bureaux. Bizarrely I think they must have decided that I'm a 25 - 40 years old Pakistani male probably mostly living in Europe.


« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2010, 11:49 »
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You bettya I'm disabling them  ;)

« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2010, 13:47 »
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Is there a way to see if any of my images are free?

« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2010, 01:57 »
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ummmm let me know who i have to show proof to that im RJmiz's biological daughter. please email me [email protected]

« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2010, 03:16 »
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ummmm let me know who i have to show proof to that im RJmiz's biological daughter. please email me [email protected]


Hi and welcome!

I don't think you'll need to show 'proof of identity' as such, we're all accepted here on the basis of our posts.

However Leaf, who moderates the forum, does have a system of 'verification' for agency representatives. If you want to discuss your circumstances you could PM him here;

http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=2

« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2010, 03:44 »
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Fd-amateur, why do you make up stories without checking first? The account you're referring to has been inherited and proper legal documentation has been provided. Consequently rights were transferred properly and revenue is paid accordingly.
Great it was solved this way, in this particular case. I think on the DT forum there was a discussion about how to recover his tutorials and somebody that was in email contact with his friend mentioned there were no heirs. In general though, there must be cases where earnings are never claimed. Bonds and bank accounts are unclaimed for 1%.

« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2010, 03:47 »
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ummmm let me know who i have to show proof to that im RJmiz's biological daughter. please email me [email protected]
No need. It will teach me not to believe every statement on forums.
I missed the thread about the revived tutorials by Arena. Thanks for that.
I always considered him as a genius and I liked his wicked sense of humor. Great guy, TheMissed.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2010, 05:29 by FD-amateur »

« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2010, 05:12 »
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here is miz' portfolio http://www.dreamstime.com/rjmiz_info

it doesn't look like he has any free images.  There is someone taking care of his account though, so perhaps they disabled any images which were destined for the free bin - or perhaps he hasn't had any 'no sale' images.

« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2010, 05:27 »
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hi, I have one question
I have few images, which now are 4 years old, but they are exclusive
if I move them to free section, will they stay exclusive?

« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2010, 12:05 »
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Fd-amateur, why do you make up stories without checking first? The account you're referring to has been inherited and proper legal documentation has been provided. Consequently rights were transferred properly and revenue is paid accordingly.



umm can you please tell me who inherited the account because im his daughter. and unless it was his other daughter, my sister, that person has no rights to the account

« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2010, 12:08 »
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umm can you please tell me who inherited the account because im his daughter. and unless it was his other daughter, my sister, that person has no rights to the account

If you have legal rights to the account, please contact the sites your father contributed to directly. We are just microstock users here and really have no knowledge or any business with anyone's legal dealings.

« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2010, 13:23 »
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Fd-amateur, why do you make up stories without checking first? The account you're referring to has been inherited and proper legal documentation has been provided. Consequently rights were transferred properly and revenue is paid accordingly.




umm can you please tell me who inherited the account because im his daughter. and unless it was his other daughter, my sister, that person has no rights to the account



To all: I apologize for my off-topic response to baby.miz

Jennifer,

I have often wondered this myself. Your father was not exclusive so it will be difficult at best to try and track down all of his sites. I would venture to guess that he was on 10-15 sites at a minimum. If there was an estate attorney I would check with them. If his accounts were not properly disclosed into this estate I can see where it could get real nasty ... especially if someone did a quick grab of his computer and or was able to retrieve his account IDs and passwords. On the other hand ... it was my guess that MIZ knew he was dying. He once spoke of trying to sell everything for an insanely low number.

It is also possible he voluntarily transferred his digital properties to someone prior to his death without it being in a will or without other instructions. This would likely difficult to disprove if the have physical possession of any of his assets or paid, or cared for him in any way.

My guess is that someone may be pocketing MIZ's royalties without a formal transfer or property at each agency. Only the agencies would know if this has taken place or not.

My advice to you would be to contact an attorney if you think you are the rightful heir to his digital assets. Your view may be opposed especially if you weren't close to him. Whether your his daughter or not would certainly come into question, but more importantly, whether or not you are the legal heir with the proper paperwork will be the agencies primary concern.


-Mark
http://markwpayne.wordpress.com
 








« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2010, 14:05 »
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umm can you please tell me who inherited the account because im his daughter. and unless it was his other daughter, my sister, that person has no rights to the account
You'd better mail your concerns to support [at] dreamstime.com - nobody can answer you here.

RacePhoto

« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2010, 14:37 »
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umm can you please tell me who inherited the account because im his daughter. and unless it was his other daughter, my sister, that person has no rights to the account
You'd better mail your concerns to support [at] dreamstime.com - nobody can answer you here.

Will DT give out private information?
« Last Edit: February 19, 2010, 15:24 by RacePhoto »

Batman

« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2010, 15:27 »
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Fd-amateur, why do you make up stories without checking first? The account you're referring to has been inherited and proper legal documentation has been provided. Consequently rights were transferred properly and revenue is paid accordingly.



umm can you please tell me who inherited the account because im his daughter. and unless it was his other daughter, my sister, that person has no rights to the account


Did you ask your sister?

« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2010, 15:49 »
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I haven't done  stock for full 2 years. I will not do anything unless they make me do it. Otherwise I want my images to be online till the end of time :-)

« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2010, 14:15 »
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Fd-amateur, why do you make up stories without checking first? The account you're referring to has been inherited and proper legal documentation has been provided. Consequently rights were transferred properly and revenue is paid accordingly.

umm can you please tell me who inherited the account because im his daughter. and unless it was his other daughter, my sister, that person has no rights to the account

This is a very UNFUNNY hoax...

« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2010, 16:54 »
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This thread diverted from the original discussion.

I got two warnings for "online for more than 4 years with no downloads".

Are you guys deleting the old images?  Using keyword master (I would not)?  Reuploading them?  I would not donate them. One still has occasional sales at other sites.

« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2010, 18:16 »
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This thread diverted from the original discussion.

I got two warnings for "online for more than 4 years with no downloads".

Are you guys deleting the old images?  Using keyword master (I would not)?  Reuploading them?  I would not donate them. One still has occasional sales at other sites.

I delete them...  ;D
Main reason, it's not because a certain image doesn't sell at DT it doesn't sell on other stock sites.
What if an image with no downloads on DT is actually amongst your best selling at SS.....?..  Aren't you shooting in your own foot by donating it to the free section on DT...?.  :-\

Further more, not a single site has shown me in the past that donating images for free could, would and shall improve my sales.
The only ones having profit from it is the Site its self.... traffic... free grabbers.

Short story... When 123 started their free section I participated with some images... they got downloaded like hell.. my revenue dropped inmensively when they started the free section, never recovered... to top this all... in that period when i donated i got personal mail from a designer (i guess) asking if i would donate image X, also  in portfolio and slightly similar,  also to the free section.

No more freebies from then on... final...  >:(

Patrick.

lisafx

« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2010, 19:20 »
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I used to put some in the free section, but lately have been deleting them.  Some of them sell on other sites.

« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2010, 02:45 »
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I would not donate them. One still has occasional sales at other sites.

me too, if the same images have sales on other site, why do I have to give it for free?

Microbius

« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2010, 07:54 »
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I'd always delete rather than giving it away for free. I don't think this would ever drive traffic to your portfolio. For one thing it'll be the worst of your images ending up in the free bin.

« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2010, 19:44 »
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But has anyone tried to resubmit?

« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2010, 19:53 »
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Has there been any clarification as to whether or not putting them in the free section/deactivating, or any other activity on these files, extends the 6 month hold they have on you?   I'm not looking to go exclusive anywhere else, but I would like to get off the site because sales are so bad.  That lets them hold and use my money for a much longer time, and I don't like that.  I'm moving more into illustration and just don't see the sales there that I do on other sites, so why give them even more money, just a few bucks short of payout?

Photos of people I will NOT give away for free.  I have enough trouble selling people without knowing where they're going without giving them away for who knows what use.  I found that my sales rocketed on FT when I put a bunch of photos in the free section and thought that would happen at DT.  It didn't, so I'll disable from now on. 

I just want to know if I disable does that extend the 6 months?  If I do nothing and they disable it, does that count towards the 6 months? 

Can you tell I'm confused?  LOL

« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2010, 21:31 »
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no, i am not disabling old images, i am disabling ALL images ;)

« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2010, 22:42 »
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I never saw a point for the contributor in free images. On 123 it did nothing. If someone can get good enough for free they wont buy (a friend has now collected over 40000 free images and he says he's not even working hard to able to get them, no flickr, pirate etc)

I have images older than 2 years on FT with sales, I got sick of the emails so I deleted those images. One of those images is a level 4 on DT, another sells 3-4 times a week, every week on SS. Different search engine placement.  It would be dumb of me to put them in a free section.

I put something in the free section that hasnt gotten good placement that is similar to yours and your sales drop. So you put something in free section similar to something of mine (or someone elses) and their sales drop. IMO in the end we all end up 'undercutting' each other with free images in the hope of improving sales.   

« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2010, 10:44 »
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Fd-amateur, why do you make up stories without checking first? The account you're referring to has been inherited and proper legal documentation has been provided. Consequently rights were transferred properly and revenue is paid accordingly.

umm can you please tell me who inherited the account because im his daughter. and unless it was his other daughter, my sister, that person has no rights to the account

This is a very UNFUNNY hoax...


No it's not. Look me up on Facebook. I AM his daughter. Not that I HAVE to prove it...to YOU anyways. My Son is even NAMED after him. (with the exception of his middle name so he wouldn't become a Jr., that would be just plain CREEPY! hahaha But no, I am his daughter and this is NOT some sick hoax FYI

« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2010, 10:48 »
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Fd-amateur, why do you make up stories without checking first? The account you're referring to has been inherited and proper legal documentation has been provided. Consequently rights were transferred properly and revenue is paid accordingly.




umm can you please tell me who inherited the account because im his daughter. and unless it was his other daughter, my sister, that person has no rights to the account



To all: I apologize for my off-topic response to baby.miz

Jennifer,

I have often wondered this myself. Your father was not exclusive so it will be difficult at best to try and track down all of his sites. I would venture to guess that he was on 10-15 sites at a minimum. If there was an estate attorney I would check with them. If his accounts were not properly disclosed into this estate I can see where it could get real nasty ... especially if someone did a quick grab of his computer and or was able to retrieve his account IDs and passwords. On the other hand ... it was my guess that MIZ knew he was dying. He once spoke of trying to sell everything for an insanely low number.

It is also possible he voluntarily transferred his digital properties to someone prior to his death without it being in a will or without other instructions. This would likely difficult to disprove if the have physical possession of any of his assets or paid, or cared for him in any way.

My guess is that someone may be pocketing MIZ's royalties without a formal transfer or property at each agency. Only the agencies would know if this has taken place or not.

My advice to you would be to contact an attorney if you think you are the rightful heir to his digital assets. Your view may be opposed especially if you weren't close to him. Whether your his daughter or not would certainly come into question, but more importantly, whether or not you are the legal heir with the proper paperwork will be the agencies primary concern.


-Mark
http://markwpayne.wordpress.com
 










Thank you , you have been very helpful. I am not really worried about it, I was just curious if someone was getting paid from my father's hard work. And someone had said something about an account being inherited or something. Thank you for your time tho!!!!

« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2010, 20:30 »
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Back to the original discussion, I've been disabling old images as they approach the one-month period.  I have  not re-uploaded any of them.

KB

« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2010, 20:56 »
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Back to the original discussion, I've been disabling old images as they approach the one-month period.  I have  not re-uploaded any of them.
Ummm ... what?  ???

« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2010, 13:01 »
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"one-month period" -> the time they give us to opt between disabling, sending to keymaster or giving to the free section.

KB

« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2010, 15:55 »
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"one-month period" -> the time they give us to opt between disabling, sending to keymaster or giving to the free section.
Oh. Thanks, Madelaide. I guess I haven't been paying close enough attention.  :D  I'm just shy of being at DT 4 years, so I'll be facing this for a few files very soon. And I'll definitely be disabling the first 2 files that are going to become "eligible". Thanks!

« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2010, 20:06 »
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"one-month period" -> the time they give us to opt between disabling, sending to keymaster or giving to the free section.

Is there any quick way to disable images, or I have to do it one by one?

red

« Reply #53 on: April 10, 2010, 21:06 »
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You have to do it one by one.

« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2010, 17:23 »
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Hmm, I can not see the link to disable old images anymore.  I think I have disabled all pendings ones, but how can I check this?  I can not find them in the "disabled files" page, and they are not in the "onlien files" either.

« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2010, 18:56 »
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I've got to go cruise DT now...    but generally speaking, I don't disable any images.  Countless times (on all sites) I have images that have been online for 2 or 3 years,  never sold, and then when they
finally did,  they'd sell repeatedly for some time...    my philosophy  'aint old till sold.... and then, it's new again'    .... but I have some getting near that 4 year limit on DT...   gotta check this out, thanx. 8)=tom


 

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