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« on: September 20, 2006, 07:28 »
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They have some new ones

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The area occupied by the isolated subject is too small, and by cropping the resulting image is under 3 Megapixels


Fortunately I have an 8mp photo so they can crop that. Anyone else been having isolation woes at DT?

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Your image info contains irrelevant description/ keywords/ categories, similar title and description, one-word description OR the information you entered contains misspellings. Read more: http://www.dreamstime.com/photography-article-3


They have had a rule that your title and description had to be different now the description must be at least 5 words.

I ran into trouble with some abseiling/rock climbing photos where they accepted just one as with the others they considered the people too darn small, though in that case I think they had thought they had enough of that subject.

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This is a very well covered subject in our data base. We are looking for images that exceed the technical quality and creativity of the images already online. Please take a few minutes to browse through the best selling images online (on this subject) and go deeper, play, have a more creative, more personal approach to it, also keeping in mind the technical quality of the image.


So maybe best to check out the competition at DT before uploading


« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2006, 17:23 »
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I get about 50% acceptance on DT, maybe around 70% on IS, and upwards of 95% on the other three.  I still send all five all of my photos that "I" think are worth selling.

Everything worth doing in life is difficult and then the rewards feel great.  A relative who is now a successful novelist took about ten years to get rolling in that profession.

Quevaal

  • Rust in Peace
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2006, 10:38 »
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So maybe best to check out the competition at DT before uploading
Don't bother.
If pics have been accepted at other sites, just upload and see what happens. Never try to understand how reviewers think.


Quevaal

  • Rust in Peace
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2006, 10:15 »
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Just to elaborate:
4 of 5 of my best sellers at Istock has been rejected at DT. They may reject all they want, but things like that doesn't add weight to their decisions.


dbvirago

« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2006, 07:37 »
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Recently, I have noticed that my approvals on most sites are rising from the 60-70% range to 80-100%. Assume I am getting better and/or more selective.

Except DT where my rate has dropped to under 50% with recent batches (same ones others are accepting) in the 0-20% range. One of the last batch, they didn't even give a reason. Only place i have less images now is Istock

« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2006, 08:15 »
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Recently, I have noticed that my approvals on most sites are rising from the 60-70% range to 80-100%. Assume I am getting better and/or more selective.

Except DT where my rate has dropped to under 50% with recent batches (same ones others are accepting) in the 0-20% range. One of the last batch, they didn't even give a reason. Only place i have less images now is Istock

Actually, I'm picking up on the comments on the iStock thread about uploading problems which has begun to discuss the DT rejection rate. Yes, I've been noticing the trend to downward acceptance, and I've also noticed a seeming pattern. I usually upload in batches of 10 to 15 images twice a week. While my acceptance rate at my other sites remains around 85% - 100%, DT is rejecting whole batches or only accepting 1 or 2 from a batch. However, it seems that the next batch is accepted at 100%. Then with the next batch, the rejections occur. Then with the next batch, 100% acceptance. Seems strange to me.

Not to mention their annoying rejection comments; "please be more creative," "poor execution," etc. And the long preamble about how selective they are and the implication that they are the creme de la creme of the microstocks. :-\

Rant over.

P__

dbvirago

« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2006, 09:43 »
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I had one of the 100% batches, but almost every time it is 20%. I upload in batches of 5. Every time I get emails from DT, I look to see which 'one' they picked. Recently, I sent 2 sets of aviation pix, planes, control tower, etc. One one batch, all but one said we have enough of these, but the 5th they took. Was it really uniqe? Was it the last one they ever take? Or did they spin the Wheel O Rejection and this one came up? I don't know. The other sites are all accepting at least 80% so I still get the exposure, but in the past, DT has been my number 1 earner.

If I was getting the same rejections across the board, then it's me and I have to fix it, but these shots range from 7-3 to 9-1 in favor of acceptance.

« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2006, 10:06 »
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DT is getting very strict.  I am having issues but hopefully it will pass.

« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2006, 10:06 »
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Are you uploading batches of similar images? If so try splitting them up and uploading them at different times.If I have similar images I don't upload the 2nd one until the first has been inspected.

dbvirago

« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2006, 10:18 »
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Yes, I try to do that for the most part, but I was down to 2 sets, so there was more similar images. But the rejection rate has been going on for a while. DT has always been stricter than many, but my rate went from a steady 60% to 30% in August, the 20s in Sept., and is holding at a steady 20% this month.

Based on other sites, my skills are getting better, not worse. It doesn't really matter though. As has been stated on all these boards, the sites take what they want and leave the rest and there's not a lot that can be done about it.

« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2006, 10:56 »
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...did they spin the Wheel O Rejection and this one came up?

The Wheel O' Rejection.  What a great term for the microstock industry.  That is hilarious. :D :D :D

Greg Boiarsky

« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2006, 11:40 »
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My rate of rejection has actually gone down.  I think I'm getting better at knowing what to submit.

dbvirago

« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2006, 11:47 »
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Yeah, that's my point. My rate of rejection is going down across the board as I get better and more selective. But my rate at DT is double to triple what it has been. If you mean knowing what to submit at DT vs what to submit at SS, etc., that's probably not going to happen. I submit in batches of five almost daily to all agencies.

Maybe if no one publishes an article on getting rich in microstock for a while, things will lossen up :-)

« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2006, 11:58 »
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...did they spin the Wheel O Rejection and this one came up?

The Wheel O' Rejection.  What a great term for the microstock industry.  That is hilarious. :D :D :D

That is pretty good!  I win quite a bit!    ;D

« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2006, 12:22 »
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I never complained about rejections but last days have been unusual for me at dreamstime. First i thought that a reviewer had a bad day , but bad days are becoming usual. I had about 80% acceptance till now , but they rejected about 45 of the last 50 i submitted , so my rejections are 90% at the moment. Am i getting that much worse ?  Funny part is all the photos are few months old and it only coincidence that i submitted them now and i submitted that ones that were accepted then , same quality , same processing but backthen i had 80% acceptance now i have 90% rejections ....
Well , i will stop submitting for a while and see if  things will get better

« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2006, 15:26 »
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I don't have too many rejections at DT.  iStock is the one I have trouble with, and usually the ones iS rejects are my best sellers on othersites.

« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2006, 15:37 »
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My dt accectance ratio has gone up over the last few months.
Acceptance ratio:
November 2005 - 33.3%
December 2005 - 100% (only 3 uploads
January 2006 - 63%
February 2006 - 66.6%
March 2006 - 62.9%
April 2006 - 79.4%
May 2006 - 89.3%
June 2006 - 100%
July 2006 - 91.2%
August 2006 - 100%
September 2006 - 100%


I was thinking the opposite that it is getting easier to get approvals. I even had 3 approved today that I hadn't bothered putting up before as I didn't think they would get approved but thought I'd give it a go because of such a good approval rate lately. Maybe certain reveiwers are stricter, maybe some of the newer ones are taking their job rather seriously.

suwanneeredhead

  • O.I.D. Sufferer (Obsessive Illustration Disorder)
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2006, 08:47 »
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I never complained about rejections but last days have been unusual for me at dreamstime. First i thought that a reviewer had a bad day , but bad days are becoming usual. I had about 80% acceptance till now , but they rejected about 45 of the last 50 i submitted , so my rejections are 90% at the moment. Am i getting that much worse ?  Funny part is all the photos are few months old and it only coincidence that i submitted them now and i submitted that ones that were accepted then , same quality , same processing but backthen i had 80% acceptance now i have 90% rejections ....
Well , i will stop submitting for a while and see if  things will get better

Amen to that... today I have my WHOLE batch rejected for the same stinkin' reason, "This is a very well covered subject in our data base, yada yada yada."  These are some of the best images i have ever shot... and as I searched for "similar" images I never found any.  I think somebody's TIRED and needing to have a NAP over there... but I must say even with the high rejection rate I have... they are still one of my two top performers (with SS).

« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2006, 16:42 »
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41% of my last batch to DT rejected for the same reason as well.   "This is a well-covered subject... blah blah blah... "   That's a change from my usual rejection, "too many on site now..."   Oh well, it's their site.  The other guys didn't feel that way, and some of those rejected sell there no problem.  If i can't sell it on DT, I'll sell it with the competition. No problemo.
         At least they are equal opportunity rejectors. Seems quite a few are getting the 'pink slip'.

eendicott

« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2006, 22:21 »
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One thing about DT that is different about other sites (in my experience) is that they are willing to work with you on resubmissions.  I recently had a refusal for the too small reason.  I looked through the requirements and didn't see a clause about interpolation so I upsized the same image very carefully so that there was no loss in quality.  I resubmitted the image with the explanation of what I did to increase the "isolation size" and it was accepted - no questions asked.

One thing I've learned about them is despite their tough standards, if you get a refusal for something that can be fixed (image size, color profile, etc., etc.) then it may be worth your while to look at the image and change what they want changed.  It's gotten me a lot more acceptances on the site.

...and for those that  complain about your acceptance ratio, if you keep this in mind, a refusal and a re-work to an acceptance is an automatic 50% acceptance rate which for a lot of folks is a lot better than iStock these days.

dbvirago

« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2006, 08:46 »
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First time I've ever argued about a rejection at DT. Had two rejections in this batch. One was an isolated ice cream sandwich, rejected for 'this is a well covered subject, ..." Puzzled, I did a search and couldn't find an ice cream sandwich, so I replied to the email saying that. Their answer:
"Hello,

Thank you for contacting us.
We have many image contected to food in our database, that includes a lot of
icecream images. Also your image is poorly lit and lacks composition.

Sincerely yours,
Ioana Grecu"

The first part sounds like total CYA BS. I don't agree with the 2nd, but if that was the reason, why didn't they say so?

2nd rejection was for a shot of towels in a retail store. Stacks of different colored towels fills the frame. This one was called towels3. Towels 1 and 2 were accepted. Only difference in shots is colors of towels. Their reason? This is not stock yadah yadah. But the others were? Didn't bother replying.






« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2006, 10:47 »
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well i agree it is lame that they gave you a dud answer, especially when there is precious few images of ice cream sandwiches on the site (read one).

I do agree with the critique of the image however.

If a designer need an image of a sandwich he would probably want the corners of the bar.  You have just nipped off the corners, making it neither a full shot of the sandwich nor a closeup/detail.

the colors also seem rather off, as the ice cream is a dark yellow/brown, unless of course the ice cream isn't white in real life.  Take the image into photoshop or similar program and run the eye dropper over the ice cream.  in RGB color the numbers should be the same for R G and B  If they are not the same (for example R 180 G 180 B 180) or very similar you know the colors are not white.  If it looks white on your screen and the numbers are still wild, you need to get your screen calibrated.

I did a little mini edit and tried to correct the color a little.  I hope you don't mind.


I think the lighting on the ice cream could be a little stronger.  It looks like it is in the shadow.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2006, 10:50 by leaf »

dbvirago

« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2006, 13:09 »
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Thanks, I'll take a look at the RGB settings. Agree it's not my best work - I was in a hurry to eat it :-). It's that the original rejection and the follow up were so lame. And the towel one was even worse. Oh well, moved on. Uploading today's batch.

« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2006, 13:25 »
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well it is a good idea, and i would suggest trying a few more with ice cream sandwiches because really there is NONE on dreamstime,  i haven't checked the other sites but i don't image they have much more.  it might be a good money maker.

« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2006, 13:25 »
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good money maker...... er well was... before the 20 people reading this thread ran out to buy ice cream sandwiches in the middle of winter.


 

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