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« on: October 21, 2008, 14:28 »
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Original post from Achilles can be found here:

http://www.dreamstime.com/thread_11224


« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 15:08 »
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Sounds interesting.

I hope its worth it.

lisafx

« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 15:17 »
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Sounds exciting!  Thanks for posting here :)

« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 15:36 »
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well it certainly sounds like an exciting venture.  I have to admit though that 6 cents sounds like a piddly amount, however I will try and hold off on my judgments until I actually see how it pans out.  I realize that if someone is paying $5.00 for royalty free use, if they only get a once off use for a card then 6 cents might be about right, and it is probably better than one extended license in the long run ... and myspace has a crazy amount of members.  Let's hope this turns out to be a profitable

« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 19:36 »
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Who on MySpace is going to order 10,000 cards?

I like the way these publishers sell things with high end numbers and "potential earnings".

The real issue is how much is the price of the card, and  the return to the photographer. The fee should be 5% of the retail price of the card. Sounds like everyone is getting their chop except the person who made the image.

« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 19:52 »
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I agree with Litifeta, these novelties always come with big numbers that are not likely to ever occur (like in that poster site with FT).  I would like to know the price of each card, then I can make a judgement.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 20:06 »
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Sounds interesting.

I hope its worth it.

Doubt it.  Sounds too complicated.

vonkara

« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 20:20 »
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Nothing on the Myspace forums yet? It sound like another feature added to the million already pop-oping everywhere on myspace

« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 21:27 »
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The issue I have with these half-witted deals is the agencies are charging to be artist's agents, and are not doing their job.

They take the best slice of the action, and then only make decisions on profit based on the good of the agency, not the artists.

They are SUPPOSED to be out there getting the best deal for us, not them. And whenever you suggest they are not good at their job you get some dunce coming back with "it is our business model" blah blah blah, or "this is not a democracy".

« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 00:07 »
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Out of the millions resgistered, how many are active, and out of those, how many are over 18 and have a credit card, and out of those, how many would buy greeting cards on the Internet?  I guess we'll have to see how MySpace presents it.  Do they sell anything else like Flickr has the books and moo cards?

« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2008, 06:00 »
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I sell my images as greeting cards on RedBubble and make a lot more, potentially I can see a tiny trickle of pennies from this but MySpace isn't that popular amongst the young folk anymore, they are all using facebook these days. The 0.06 is just too low really.

hali

« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2008, 09:13 »
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i agree with litifeta and adelaide.
sounds like a half ass idea. myspace , facebook,etc... are full of immature ppl with no intention of anything other than showing off their own snapshots.
it's just another hair brained scheme to reduce our images to the price of ice water.
still, i paid 2 bucks for a plastic bottle of ice water. i wish our images are paid 2 bucks at least.

« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2008, 19:18 »
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Achilles has provided more info so you may want to check out the thread on DT again.

« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2008, 21:52 »
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I like this concept and see no downside to participate. I assume we'll get an email from DT explaining how to "sign up".

I'm extremely pleased with DT's sales results the last few months. At this rate it will shortly surpass both SS and IS for my images. Whatever they're doing to drive sales is working beautifully. I am much more open to this MySpace concept because of DT's proven sales ability.

lisafx

« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2008, 09:07 »
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Well said Lou.  I agree on all counts.

If you are already signed in to affiliate programs then you are automatically signed in to this program too.  I believe to opt out you need to opt out of affiliates altogether. 

« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2008, 09:58 »
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lisafx,
   I checked and I am opted in for affiliates. I think that is the default there unless you check the "opt out" box in the management section.

« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2008, 12:02 »
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This might be a chance for travel, landscape and flower photos that are generally overlooked because they are too "stockish" to sell.

What happens to a photo level if it has one or several of these type of sales? 

Sure 6 cents sounds low, but it's hard to compare this deal to Red Bubble where you create your own layouts, set your own prices and have RB host, print and ship.  I expect that there's at least 4 parties taking a piece of this deal:

1.  Us.  We provide the artwork.
2.  DT.  Represents the artwork.  Collects royalties, distributes them.
3.  MySpace.  Hosting, marketing, credit card processing, shiping.
4.  Outside printing house.

« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2008, 12:27 »
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Pixart,

Most print/poster sites either let you set the price or have their own, in any case you receive a % of the total price or of your mark-up price. That's why I asked how much a card will cost. If it costs US$1, then 6c - or 6% - not good, but not so bad either. If it costs US$5, then these 6c mean less than 1% - too little. Which is a similar discussion as we previously had about Bilderking with FT.

Achilles clarified my question about a large order (that is, if someone orders for instance a 100 copies of the same card):
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In regards to the program, considering this is consumer oriented, it's unlikely that a person will order 100 cards, they are not designers. If he/she does, you will get 100 times the royalty, of course.

I don't think this is so unlikely (maybe not 100, but many), if someone decides to make his own customized Xmas card, but it's good to know we receive for the package the same as many individual sales.

Does anyone here have a MySpace account? It would be interesting to know how they offer it on their side.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2008, 13:16 »
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This might be a chance for travel, landscape and flower photos that are generally overlooked because they are too "stockish" to sell.

Well, DT would have to accept the image first, and we all know how they feel about flower photos.

As the mindset of the MySpace people is "everything on the web should be free", I really don't see this going anywhere except for some aggregate income for DT. You know they will take their cut. Some contributors might get a few cents.

« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2008, 13:32 »
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Achilles said beta-test will begin with illustrations.  He also said:
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Don't expect the rules for submissions to change in any way. Don't submit finished designs, they will be refused. Our partners will be looking into visual content for their designs, not into finished materials.

I think I didn't get exactly how cards will be created.  It seems they will use our images, but not directly?  Who will design the cards?  I'm confused.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2008, 13:58 »
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I checked and I am opted in for affiliates.

I checked and I only see a button for Alliances. Is that the right place to opt in or out?

« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2008, 14:39 »
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I have a Myspace account so when it goes through I'll happily test it out and find out what I can.

« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2008, 17:24 »
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I checked and I am opted in for affiliates.

I checked and I only see a button for Alliances. Is that the right place to opt in or out?
  That's the place OK!

« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2008, 17:33 »
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thanks takestock!  :D

« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2009, 16:51 »
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Old thread, but there was an update today at DT:

http://www.dreamstime.com/forumm_11224_pg7

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Update: this program has taken longer than we anticipated and is not yet running at full speed, but several partners distributing our content reported good sales. Starting next week, we will add royalties to all photographers who had their content selected in the initial phase and made sales.

Some have seen very good sales, with the record of an image that got printed on 1,589 greeting cards, orderd by 1053 individuals (an image of a tree). Many others had a single file ordered.

We will do our best to send an email as soon as the revenue is added to your accounts (most probably throughout the upcoming week).


 

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