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Agency Based Discussion => Dreamstime.com => Topic started by: sleiselei on March 30, 2009, 20:27
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I am depressed ! :-[
My sales drops suddenly this week.
I have 8-10 sales per day before this week, but now I have 1-2sales per day.
After seeking for the reason I found that has the possibility is the sales drop which the new search engine creates.
I did not know when the search system is upgrade.At present seeks for my picture through the search engine, they usually after 100 pages, but before, they usually in first 3 pages.
At present through the key word search picture, the rule which demonstrated is sorts according to under sales capacity how many. This is helpful in the buyer discovers the most popular picture but these picture overwhelming majority is the old picture.This rule was very difficult to find the new picture and new contributor.
The above is my analysis, possibly is the individual phenomenon.
Whether some people also do encounter this kind of situation? Hopes everybody discussion.
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Not only the search engine, the new uploading is very problematic to begin with.
Some files disappeared no matter if I uploaded on the site or by ftp.
My sales are not great either.
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for me , these upgrade is very bad :-[
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Something very weird is happening at DT. I'm new, my portfolio just hit above 125 images and I was beginning to see a some consistent downloads. I WAS getting about 1 or 2 every few days, but now ~ NOTHING. I haven't had a sale since March 9th!
I'm not sure what it is, but its sure got me down :(!
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I have 100 files up and have barely sold anything since starting in January with them - I do much better on other sites like SS and IS. I hope this change at DT might be a good thing and bring about some sales for those of us that have seen nothing so far. But as of today - still no improvements, still at $9 for weeks now.
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I need just $1.49 for a BME at DT. I have just checked the new search engine, and with the view set at relevancy, 80 photos per page, I put in a keyword and got 25 photos on page 1. I certainly can't complain.
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For me it´s been dead for a long time, and are just lately picking up again. Imagine if all of us had topplacings in search at the same time ???
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Sales are good there this month and I have had no problems uploading with FTP. I have had more rejections this month but that is my only complaint.
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This new search is good for me at the moment as I have a lot of level 4 and 5 images selling but in the long run I don't think that it is good as the default search in my opinion should be a relevancy mixture of new images and best sellers.
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Oh, have they changed the default to bestsellers? No point in uploading new pictures, then. It must be a bit frustrating for buyers too, since they don't get the most relevant pictures with a simple search, but have to go in and change settings. Take "Greenland" as an example: Only two of the pics on the first page are from Greenland, the others are maps, globes or pictures of green fields. It's a beautiful goat, but I can't really see a travel agency usīng it for a brochure about Greenland...
Not a change I like, in contrast to the new upload which I think was a change for the better.
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Sales are good there this month and I have had no problems uploading with FTP. I have had more rejections this month but that is my only complaint.
Same for me. They're even rejecting most of my illustrations, which is new. In the past, it seemed like they accepted almost every illustration I threw at them. I think they're tired of silhouettes or something.
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No complaints from me. Looks to be BME at DT this month.
Relevant titles and descriptions along with high acceptance rate are the best ways to boost visibility in the searches.
Not to mention that the $ per sale has risen to over $1.50 this month. I believe that is my highest for any micro site.
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I wonder what the change was?
I haven't seen any dramatic difference in my download rates at DreamsTime over the last week. I've got about average in sales this month.
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It looks to me like the default search method is now by downloads decreasing. This means that if you have a lot of older files with large numbers of downloads you will be fine, if you have mostly newer files with less downloads you won't do as well. Unfortunately this is a positive feedback loop. I am close to a BME there though, as my older higher level images are doing well. I still think the default search should be most relevant, and it should really be most relevant (based solely on the image, not the contributors camera or acceptance ratio or country). At least DT returns the lowest number of completely off the wall and spammed images.
It does seem like they are shaking things up there, I hope it all turns out well when they are done.
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It looks to me like the default search method is now by downloads decreasing.
Ohh thanks for noticing... It's absolutely true, it's now by download decreasing!! I wonder how many people will use it that way. I noticed that my highest downloaded files have sold a couple of times in the last 2 days
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agreed. my sales have dropped drastically and the new upload system is annoying and losing images I upload too
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my sales have taken a tumble only 12 dls for the month
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My previous BME record was smashed this month (22% increase), so no complaints here. I'm seeing brand new images, old images that have never sold, and old favorites all selling in the past week, too.
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DT has been pretty much a dead loss for me. Up a bit in dls this month but 99% subsales at $0.35. Return per Image at lowest ever and half of my average. Any change can only help me.
fred
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DT has always been bad for me so it wasn't hard to get the BME for me. I also did get some files lost.
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New BME for me. I just checked, my images are now much better represented but I did not notice an very noticeable increase of downloads this past week or two. While I am of course biased I do think it seems to be a much better search result than before, at least with the topics I am familiar with.
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I wondered why my sales at DT had tanked . . . now I know.
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The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get. The only pictures I have sold the last days, are the ones that are similar to my bestseller. My new pics hardly get a view.
@Vonkara; I see that pancaketom managed to explain where I failed. And there certainly are plenty of photos from Greenland. If the buyer goes in and changes to "sort by relevancy", he'll find them. But it's an extra obstacle, and since all humans by default are lazy, it's an argument against searching and buying from Dreamstime.
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Spot on average
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@Vonkara; I see that pancaketom managed to explain where I failed. And there certainly are plenty of photos from Greenland. If the buyer goes in and changes to "sort by relevancy", he'll find them. But it's an extra obstacle, and since all humans by default are lazy, it's an argument against searching and buying from Dreamstime.
Actually you was right the first time. It was changed by most download as the default search. I will edit my previous post. I also think it's not a good thing since the last relevancy was a success. Then I don't understand at 100% this decision. Though, Freezingpicture had a BME. Will see next month anyway because this is new right now. But it will certainly advantage the people with high downloaded files. But not the first impression of buyers comming to DT and looking for relevent subjects IMO.
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Don't like the new search ... sales dropped dramatically past week.
Today only 2 sales.... with 6500 images online... and this is no april's fool.
Patrick H.
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Don't like the new search ... sales dropped dramatically past week.
Today only 2 sales.... with 6500 images online... and this is no april's fool.
Patrick H.
Wow! That really doesn't sound good. You have a great portfolio.
But it is right, something happened at DT and it looks bad on my sales too.
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for me , these upgrade is very bad :-[
你好 :D
Yes, I read your thread at Dreamstime. For me it's very good since from 2 downloads yesterday of older exclusive images with high image levels alone, I had 11$. Those shots never really "flied" but Achilles asked me to optimize keywords and title a week ago, and I did it for all my older images with higher image rank.
It's a good strategy since "relevance" as determined by the search engine is only determined by the metadata/keywords, while real relevance might more depend on previous sales and views. What's more, as the contributor wins more on high image level images, Dreamstime in general too will have more revenue. My RPD went up from $1.39 in February 2009 to $2.41 in March which confirms this guess.
My referral income went slightly up from $4.49 in February to $4.54 in March, and considering these ports are more recent, it all fits.
In every search algorithm change, there are winners and losers. I turned out to be a big loser on Istock and a winner on DT. That's microstock life.
Your port is very vulnerable to algorithm changes, and you should analyze its content. With 5,000+ online, you have large series of similars, and the concepts/settings are limited. That means you are competing with your own images and you will reach high image levels on selected images much slower. With limited variety, you will also have less sales from visual search in your port. My keyword-less sales are 60% of the total, indicating visual search. On a side note, you should pay more attention to keywords and title. Many shots of your daughter have just the title "kid" and the keywords are limited. On every shot you use "beautiful" but that's not really a search term since all landscapes, nature and girls are "beautiful".
Whoever has a high production with a constant flow of new images should also upload to ShutterStock, where new images rank high in the search engine but die quickly. Dreamstime is more an investment in the long run.
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I need just $1.49 for a BME at DT. I have just checked the new search engine, and with the view set at relevancy, 80 photos per page, I put in a keyword and got 25 photos on page 1. I certainly can't complain.
Same observation here. Most of my "tropical waterfall" come up in the first 5 pages, and finally my "beach jump" shots are in the first 2 rows. Should add those are exclusive images. Giving a higher rank in the engine to shots with a high image level will serve DT as a whole too. Of course, I'm pro ;D
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The problem with the DT dls search is that lots of crappy images that have been put into the assignment are coming up in the first pages as they have been bumped up to 100dls. So even if they have never sold which is often the case they will come up before far superior images that have sold 80 or 90 times.
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The problem with the DT dls search is that lots of crappy images that have been put into the assignment are coming up in the first pages as they have been bumped up to 100dls. So even if they have never sold which is often the case they will come up before far superior images that have sold 80 or 90 times.
True I saw the same. That's a problem and sales are comming one problem also for me. I'm not advantaged by the downloads/decending, but I was with the relevency/decending. Again, other people win with this, but it's getting ridiculous to see earnings up and down constantly like this
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Don't like the new search ... sales dropped dramatically past week.
Today only 2 sales.... with 6500 images online... and this is no april's fool.
Patrick H.
Same here... don't like the new search engine, significant sales drop. Am going back to my images to revamp some titles and keywords & see what happens.
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I see a HUGE boost in my sales and RPD (now above 2$). It seems I am a lucky one when it comes to the search engine changes. Yes, and these are mainly my 3,4 and 5th level images. Nice to see if someone pays 13 credits for your image ;)
This said... who knows what the next change will look like. Everything is so inconsistent here ;)
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I'm very pleased with whatever DT is doing. My sales have spiked way up in all my main categories -- my images make up to 50% of the first pages on two of my main subject key words. Very impressive work by this site.
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你好 :D
Yes, I read your thread at Dreamstime. For me it's very good since from 2 downloads yesterday of older exclusive images with high image levels alone, I had 11$. Those shots never really "flied" but Achilles asked me to optimize keywords and title a week ago, and I did it for all my older images with higher image rank.
Your port is very vulnerable to algorithm changes, and you should analyze its content. With 5,000+ online, you have large series of similars, and the concepts/settings are limited. That means you are competing with your own images and you will reach high image levels on selected images much slower. With limited variety, you will also have less sales from visual search in your port. My keyword-less sales are 60% of the total, indicating visual search. On a side note, you should pay more attention to keywords and title. Many shots of your daughter have just the title "kid" and the keywords are limited. On every shot you use "beautiful" but that's not really a search term since all landscapes, nature and girls are "beautiful".
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:) Dear frends,
Thank you very much to yours opinion.
I accept you completely to my analysis .These suggestions are big help to me.
In fact I unceasingly am also improving these insufficiencies.
But did not indicate that this change is good for most people.
Hoped that the time can prove all .
In any event, I thank you to your direction.
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Ok, its been nearly a month, no sale at DT, thinks are looking mighty bleak. My current uploads are not being viewed much either, very sad days! :( Just when I thought I was getting the hang of things!