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Im sorry about Dreamstime

Started by rinderart, August 29, 2019, 04:39

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KeremGo

DT is my first too since 2013... I was once exclusive. Combining the sales of my renderings with uploaded bonuses and helped me through to get some really tough times. I had to stop uploading and leave exclusivity after they stopped giving bonuses to contributors over 10.000 accepted images. It was sad for me since I get used to it very much.
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Quote from: KeremGo3D on February 17, 2020, 23:00
DT is my first too since 2013... I was once exclusive. Combining the sales of my renderings with uploaded bonuses and helped me through to get some really tough times. I had to stop uploading and leave exclusivity after they stopped giving bonuses to contributors over 10.000 accepted images. It was sad for me since I get used to it very much.

I think I remember reading that you have to pay back the bonuses if you stop being exclusive. Is this correct?

KeremGo

If you broke the rules and sell in another agency while working exclusive with them. BUT when you let them know 30 day prior for leaving exclusivity no such thing will happen. They simply let you leave without any penalty.

Quote from: Microstock Posts on February 18, 2020, 05:09
Quote from: KeremGo3D on February 17, 2020, 23:00
DT is my first too since 2013... I was once exclusive. Combining the sales of my renderings with uploaded bonuses and helped me through to get some really tough times. I had to stop uploading and leave exclusivity after they stopped giving bonuses to contributors over 10.000 accepted images. It was sad for me since I get used to it very much.

I think I remember reading that you have to pay back the bonuses if you stop being exclusive. Is this correct?
Internationally Published Artist | Featured On: Adrian Dunbar Channel 5 Scenic Ireland + 3D World Magazine
Worked With: National Geographic + Electronic Music Giant SCHILLER + Grammy Nominated David Arkenstone

Findura

Quote from: Microstock Posts on September 11, 2019, 14:26
Quote from: trabuco on September 11, 2019, 09:06
Quote from: rene on September 11, 2019, 09:01
I am not sorry about them.
Very unprofessional site. After revealing real contributor name, without any notice for artists, I deleted my account.

What? Real name is visible on the web?

:o
Yup. You can read about it here.

Dreamstime's Identity Crisis

And what about Dreamstime now? Have they overcome their crisis?
I looked at some profiles of contributors and saw that some used a pseudonym.
Has the requirement to use a real name been lifted?

For Real

This month I have 24 sales good for $56 thus doing well in my eyes...

Justanotherphotographer

They are a goods site. Not top tier in terms of earnings but a steady earner

Asthebelltolls

Dreamstime was my first agency way back in the stone age era, 2009, when we
were using rocks and chisels to submit images. They are the only agency that
retained and honored the original agreement that I signed up for. Back in those
days I assumed commissions would increase. Today Shutterstock received
$79us payment from a client for a clip I produced. I received $0.69us in commission.
This is why I continue to submit to Dreamstime and don't submit to Shutterstock and
a host of other agencies that broke our original agreement.

cascoly

#57
my sales have been steady for last 3+ years (payout every3-4 mo) and many $2+ sales

not the best but another passive earner w little maintenance
Steve Estvanik 
travel & photo blog https://cascoly-images.com

marthamarks

Quote from: cascoly on August 13, 2021, 21:45
my sales have been steady for last 3+ years (payout every3-4 mo) and many $2+ sales

not the best but another passive earner w little maintenance


That's a pretty good description of my experience, too. Dreamstime is slow but reliable, and often produces higher-paying sales than other site.

As "Asthebelltolls" mentioned, they've never done anything that upset me. No "exciting news" that pulls the rug out from under contributors.

Roscoe

They are my favorite small agency indeed, for reasons mentioned by others above. But! A very small earner.
Only 2,6% of my microstock income in 2021 came from Dreamstime so far.
No matter how fair we think they run their business: it's peanuts. 

The bad guys, the ones getting tons of criticism when it comes to treating contributors: iStock/Getty and Shutterstock, well... they bring in 65%.
And I'm not not even taking sales via WireStock or Eyeem into account.

These are the hard facts about my personal situation and these numbers will vary across the contributor community, but looking at numbers, excluding emotional feelings (positive or negative) I have about agencies, sheds a different light on my perception.

qunamax

I feel like there are three customers occasionally buying at DT.

For Real

Quote from: qunamax on August 15, 2021, 13:32
I feel like there are three customers occasionally buying at DT.

Ok, I will stop buying your images  8)

qunamax

Quote from: For Real on August 15, 2021, 14:33
Quote from: qunamax on August 15, 2021, 13:32
I feel like there are three customers occasionally buying at DT.

Ok, I will stop buying your images  8)

Well, two it is.  8)

marthamarks

Quote from: qunamax on August 16, 2021, 12:13
Quote from: For Real on August 15, 2021, 14:33
Quote from: qunamax on August 15, 2021, 13:32
I feel like there are three customers occasionally buying at DT.

Ok, I will stop buying your images  8)

Well, two it is.  8)

Best of luck with those two!!!    ;D

lostintimeline

you sure they are not brothers?


Hildegarde

Dreamstime is doing well for me.

Asthebelltolls

Quote from: Hildegarde on August 20, 2021, 19:35
Dreamstime is doing well for me.

Same here. They must be advertising! :-)

For Real

Already my best month in over a year and still over a week left in August thus they must be doing something since I really haven't submitted a lot of newer images.  :)

stocky

Quote from: Asthebelltolls on August 29, 2019, 14:30
A topic for us "oldtimers". ;) Dreamstime was my first agency as well nine years ago. There's a nostalgic motivation staying with them but they also provide steady sales throughout the years. A minor earner but always predictable with frequent commissions in the dollar category as opposed to the penny offerings.....Personally, I would think if they simplified things for the buyer. Use far fewer categories they could improve sales.

I too remember the good 'ol days...$800 a month wasn't uncommon. But that was over 10 years ago. Oh how times have changed.

Microstock Posts

Quote from: Findura on August 13, 2021, 13:57
Quote from: Microstock Posts on September 11, 2019, 14:26
Quote from: trabuco on September 11, 2019, 09:06
Quote from: rene on September 11, 2019, 09:01
I am not sorry about them.
Very unprofessional site. After revealing real contributor name, without any notice for artists, I deleted my account.

What? Real name is visible on the web?

:o
Yup. You can read about it here.

Dreamstime's Identity Crisis

And what about Dreamstime now? Have they overcome their crisis?
I looked at some profiles of contributors and saw that some used a pseudonym.
Has the requirement to use a real name been lifted?
After causing quite a storm Dreamstime did reverse their decision and said, "We still believe a public profile gives more credibility to your images but we will respect your choice regarding the confidentiality of your profile."

Uncle Pete

Quote from: Microstock Posts on August 23, 2021, 19:57
Quote from: Findura on August 13, 2021, 13:57
Quote from: Microstock Posts on September 11, 2019, 14:26
Quote from: trabuco on September 11, 2019, 09:06
Quote from: rene on September 11, 2019, 09:01
I am not sorry about them.
Very unprofessional site. After revealing real contributor name, without any notice for artists, I deleted my account.

What? Real name is visible on the web?

:o
Yup. You can read about it here.

Dreamstime's Identity Crisis

And what about Dreamstime now? Have they overcome their crisis?
I looked at some profiles of contributors and saw that some used a pseudonym.
Has the requirement to use a real name been lifted?
After causing quite a storm Dreamstime did reverse their decision and said, "We still believe a public profile gives more credibility to your images but we will respect your choice regarding the confidentiality of your profile."

Looking back to the OP of this old thread, what does that mean? They respect what confidentiality? Or is there some choice?

https://www.dreamstime.com/rinderart_info

Doesn't seem very private or confidential to me?
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LizC

Quote from: Uncle Pete on August 26, 2021, 17:17
Quote from: Microstock Posts on August 23, 2021, 19:57
Quote from: Findura on August 13, 2021, 13:57
Quote from: Microstock Posts on September 11, 2019, 14:26
Quote from: trabuco on September 11, 2019, 09:06
Quote from: rene on September 11, 2019, 09:01
I am not sorry about them.
Very unprofessional site. After revealing real contributor name, without any notice for artists, I deleted my account.

What? Real name is visible on the web?

:o
Yup. You can read about it here.

Dreamstime's Identity Crisis

And what about Dreamstime now? Have they overcome their crisis?
I looked at some profiles of contributors and saw that some used a pseudonym.
Has the requirement to use a real name been lifted?
After causing quite a storm Dreamstime did reverse their decision and said, "We still believe a public profile gives more credibility to your images but we will respect your choice regarding the confidentiality of your profile."

Looking back to the OP of this old thread, what does that mean? They respect what confidentiality? Or is there some choice?

https://www.dreamstime.com/rinderart_info

Doesn't seem very private or confidential to me?

The contributor probably didn't edited their profile. You have the choice of what info is made visible to the public including your real name or your username

TonyD

Dreamstime are a dream to upload to (97% acceptance rate but have only earned $10+ so will take a long time to cashout I guess.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: LizC on August 27, 2021, 15:11
Quote from: Uncle Pete on August 26, 2021, 17:17
Quote from: Microstock Posts on August 23, 2021, 19:57
Quote from: Findura on August 13, 2021, 13:57
Quote from: Microstock Posts on September 11, 2019, 14:26
Quote from: trabuco on September 11, 2019, 09:06
Quote from: rene on September 11, 2019, 09:01
I am not sorry about them.
Very unprofessional site. After revealing real contributor name, without any notice for artists, I deleted my account.

What? Real name is visible on the web?

:o
Yup. You can read about it here.

Dreamstime's Identity Crisis

And what about Dreamstime now? Have they overcome their crisis?
I looked at some profiles of contributors and saw that some used a pseudonym.
Has the requirement to use a real name been lifted?
After causing quite a storm Dreamstime did reverse their decision and said, "We still believe a public profile gives more credibility to your images but we will respect your choice regarding the confidentiality of your profile."

Looking back to the OP of this old thread, what does that mean? They respect what confidentiality? Or is there some choice?

https://www.dreamstime.com/rinderart_info

Doesn't seem very private or confidential to me?

The contributor probably didn't edited their profile. You have the choice of what info is made visible to the public including your real name or your username

Thanks, that's what I wondered. They didn't remove anything, but artists have the personal option to block information. Choice is a good way to handle things.
≧◉◡◉≦ <a href=https://www.antique-images.com/> My Vintage and Antique images ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Your art isn't worth anything unless someone else believes it is.