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« on: February 15, 2010, 17:37 »
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From Sunday to Monday night I "lost" two images.

My DT's portfolio size just went down by 2 images. I have no idea which images were affected and wrote support but DT says that there is a server update issue going on.

Usually I'd understand that if I just had a couple of images approved and I'm waiting for my portfolio size to increase by 2 but I had the opposite happening (obviously without disabling any images).

Then I constantly see that I have new comments (bold pink number in the upper right corner) but there are no new comments once I click on it. I had this issue reported before and the tech department had to fix that problem but it appears to be happening again.

Furthermore downloads have just disappeared. In over 4 years I had my first day without downloads. Additionally the entire performance of DT just went down. I don't know what's happening these days.


« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2010, 00:39 »
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It's meant to be a server synch problem that is being put right. They say they havent lost any sales records, that it is just a delay in updating the stats but I wonder about that. The problem started on thursday or friday and when my sales finally appeared a few hours ago they were worse than normal.

« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 00:48 »
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It's meant to be a server synch problem that is being put right. They say they havent lost any sales records, that it is just a delay in updating the stats but I wonder about that. The problem started on thursday or friday and when my sales finally appeared a few hours ago they were worse than normal.
+1, but it's just a feeling. My numbers are too low on DT. Lisa could tell.

« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2010, 09:31 »
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I'm not just talking about sales figures (which is quite important of course).

Their comment system keeps giving me errors. It shows new notifications when there are none. Very annoying.

My two images are still "lost" and it's now more than 24 hours.

It's just a creepy feeling. No news update on the homepage from their end either...

« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2010, 10:04 »
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The delayed sales that are now showing seem about normal to me.

« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 10:51 »
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The delayed sales that are now showing seem about normal to me.

Same here. They're not the first microstock agency to experience growing pains with the site by any means.

« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 09:20 »
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Anyone else see sales plummet after the technical issues that started last Friday?  Each day since the trouble began, my numbers show me down between 50 and 90 percent from previous weeks.  And I'm not saying down from $1 to $.50, which is statistically insignificant... I'm talking down from $30 to $10 a day, or in the worst case the previous two Sundays were in the $8 range and this past Sunday -- in the middle of the reporting problems -- I had one commission for a total of $.35.  My sales there were on a good roll for the past few months, and now they're suddenly in the toilet.  Could buyers have been experiencing technical issues when attempting to buy?

« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2010, 09:24 »
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Anyone else see sales plummet after the technical issues that started last Friday?  Each day since the trouble began, my numbers show me down between 50 and 90 percent from previous weeks.  And I'm not saying down from $1 to $.50, which is statistically insignificant... I'm talking down from $30 to $10 a day, or in the worst case the previous two Sundays were in the $8 range and this past Sunday -- in the middle of the reporting problems -- I had one commission for a total of $.35.  My sales there were on a good roll for the past few months, and now they're suddenly in the toilet.  Could buyers have been experiencing technical issues when attempting to buy?

I don't know what's happening there at DT but my sales are almost non-existant anymore.

I've never seen anything like this before.

One would expect that after StockXpert went down and with BigStock performing really poorly that the buyers are going elsewhere but it's certainly not DT.

« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2010, 09:54 »
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I attempted a couple of image searches for images like "car"and "fabric"earlier today with no results.
I emailed support and approx. 1 hour later the search function worked properly.  If this has been an ongoing problem then that could explain a lack of sales!

« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2010, 10:04 »
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Anyone else see sales plummet after the technical issues that started last Friday?
Following Gostwyck's rule (keep your mouth shut under 1000$ monthly), I don't like to confirm. I'm far away from your numbers. You should ask Lisa, she had 40,000 sales on DT.
If you are happy with a midget with 3-6 sales per day: yap. It fully recovered on Tuesday (yesterday). Weren't there some holidays somewhere? In Europe, the 1-week early spring break holiday for schools started.

« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 10:06 »
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I attempted a couple of image searches for images like "car"and "fabric"earlier today with no results.
The search was out for a while. Tangie just announced it was fixed.

« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 10:47 »
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Anyone else see sales plummet after the technical issues that started last Friday?  ... Could buyers have been experiencing technical issues when attempting to buy?

Not me. I'd say sales have been fairly normal for me once the stat's caught up to confirm. Mind you that is against a backdrop of dwindling sales at DT over the last few months. This month compared to Feb 08 I'm expecting to be 25% down on sales and 20% down on revenue (with a 20% larger portfolio).

I can't help thinking that they've got their pricing architecture seriously wrong for small size images at the higher Levels. Asking 9 credits for an XS image, just because it has sold a few times, is going to look seriously expensive when FT and IS may be selling the same image for just 1 credit.

KB

« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 11:45 »
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I can't help thinking that they've got their pricing architecture seriously wrong for small size images at the higher Levels. Asking 9 credits for an XS image, just because it has sold a few times, is going to look seriously expensive when FT and IS may be selling the same image for just 1 credit.
That's a very good point.

But if correct, is it DT's fault / problem, or our own? Shouldn't we, perhaps, be removing images at Level 5 on DT (and maybe levels 4 and 3) from other sites and make them exclusive to DT? Support their pricing structure by taking away (as much as we can) the possibility of undercutting ourselves?

Not that I've done it, but now that you mention it, I wonder ....

« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2010, 12:55 »
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Asking 9 credits for an XS image, just because it has sold a few times, is going to look seriously expensive when FT and IS may be selling the same image for just 1 credit.
XS level 1-2 = 1 credit
XS level 3 = 5 credits
XS level 4 = 7 credits
XS level 5 = 9 credits (assignment = exclusive, or >= 50 dl).

Level 5 images that weren't assignment and hence exclusive must be very few. There might be a problem with level 4 (>= 25). I only have 7 out of 1041 for now. I wouldn't call 25 downloads "a few". In any case, they will only make up a very small fraction of the total DT portfolio. The buyer will encounter these instances very rarely. Assuming an hourly wage of 40$, he has just 6 minutes finding the same image on a cheaper site to break even.

« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2010, 13:22 »
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I can't help thinking that they've got their pricing architecture seriously wrong for small size images at the higher Levels. Asking 9 credits for an XS image, just because it has sold a few times, is going to look seriously expensive when FT and IS may be selling the same image for just 1 credit.
That's a very good point.

But if correct, is it DT's fault / problem, or our own? Shouldn't we, perhaps, be removing images at Level 5 on DT (and maybe levels 4 and 3) from other sites and make them exclusive to DT? Support their pricing structure by taking away (as much as we can) the possibility of undercutting ourselves?

Not that I've done it, but now that you mention it, I wonder ....

If it is a problem for people to buy small images at the higher prices there are 1000's of more on the site at the lower price.  If they 'need' the expensive shot - then they will pay for it.

« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2010, 13:42 »
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I posted this in a previous thread here:

I like DT's pricing and structure. I was very surprised at a sale I had today. It was on a level 5 image, sold as small size, I received $6.35 (the buyer paid 11 credits using 2010 credits), the previous sale for the same image was a sub, I received $1.05. The image in question is a single tomato on white, nothing special. I think this is another demonstration that (some) buyers are not particularly price sensitive.


I don't think it's a case of small images being too expensive, but perhaps large images are too cheap.

lisafx

« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 13:47 »
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I am very happy with Dreamstime's pricing structure.  I think it offers something for everyone, including the contributor.

I do see Gostwyck's point, however, about the highest level images being a bit pricey compared to other sites.  I would prefer the other sites boost the prices rather than DT lower them :)

And FWIW, in spite of not uploading to DT the last couple of months my sales there remain pretty steady.

« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 13:57 »
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I think this is the process of Macro RF meeting Micro RF where both worlds will eventually merge. Of course Micro prices will raise while the old Macro RF pricing will drastically fall.

I think with DT's pricing structure where the performance of a single image determines its value is just fair (instead the Fotolia or IS approach).

Also it reflects more the actual value of how much work goes into a shot.

It's just weird that the sales volume has shrunk so suddenly at DT (for me).

« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2010, 14:02 »
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It's just weird that the sales volume has shrunk so suddenly at DT (for me).
I had a real burst, especially the first days of February. Perhaps it's portfolio composition dependent (I don't have Easter shots).

Xalanx

« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2010, 15:54 »
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Started to work again for me, after several months of poor performance. This month I have made so far the earnings as the whole last month. Whatever they did, I hope they won't change it (maybe improve it?).

« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2010, 17:00 »
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This month I have made so far the earnings as the whole last month.
+1

My guess is that they absorbed part of the former StockXpert buyers. That would explain the glitch with their servers (server load?) too. This is guess is further confirmed by the low number of subs sales at DT this month, as well as by the unusual high number of ODs on SS. It's as if some StockXpert buyers are first testing the waters with credit sales before deciding where to buy a subs package.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2010, 17:03 by FD-amateur »

xst

« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2010, 19:19 »
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This month I have made so far the earnings as the whole last month.
+1

My guess is that they absorbed part of the former StockXpert buyers. That would explain the glitch with their servers (server load?) too. This is guess is further confirmed by the low number of subs sales at DT this month, as well as by the unusual high number of ODs on SS. It's as if some StockXpert buyers are first testing the waters with credit sales before deciding where to buy a subs package.

If I'd judge by my sales across sites in February,
Id say that most buyers from StockXpert moved to DT and FT.

Xalanx

« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2010, 02:59 »
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This month I have made so far the earnings as the whole last month.
+1

My guess is that they absorbed part of the former StockXpert buyers. That would explain the glitch with their servers (server load?) too. This is guess is further confirmed by the low number of subs sales at DT this month, as well as by the unusual high number of ODs on SS. It's as if some StockXpert buyers are first testing the waters with credit sales before deciding where to buy a subs package.
could be that too and if it is so then most of the StockXpert buyers went to DT because the other agencies are doing normal for me. I'm getting everyday ODs on SS but nothing out of the ordinary in terms of volume. FT is the same too (maybe a bit worse than last month). A bit more I have on 123RF but that's because I'm featured on the frontpage.


 

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