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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2023, 20:41 »
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Adobe sales continue to grow - more than 100 sales so far this year with ~700 assets (and a large percentage of those assets are illustrations I've done for holidays, with duplicate pngs - most of my best sellers are my photographs - and I've got around 400 of them).

Haven't uploaded that much recently either, maybe a handful of images, but most of the new are selling - best was uploaded late January - it's had 20+ sales already (not up to Jo Anne's stats, but good nonetheless, I think). Others have multiple sales too. The fact that new images are getting multiple sales speaks volumes IMHO.

Jo Anne, how do you figure out custom vs subscription sales? When I look at a week of sales, I see total earnings, but not downloads. I can only see total downloads in my full portfolio (but not total earnings unless I download every single year individually). Is there a breakdown somewhere like DT has? Doubtful - you seem to imply it's tricky to find the info - any tricks you can share would be much appreciated. Are you assuming that fees above 99 cents are custom and extrapolating from there? Do you have to break down stats daily to figure this out?

Jo Anne, I share your concern about return per download. Mine is 78 cents per download this year; in 2022 it was 94 cents. OTOH, I've earned 101% more for the the period 1/1/23-3/18/23 than for the same period in 2022. So, if Return per download goes down but sales more than double, I'm still ahead. Still, I'm worried about sustainability. It's better in the long term if earning per download is up, since the number of potential clients is more finite. (SS has shown that even if you corner the market, at some point growth slows down or stops). Better to charge 99 cents per download than 78. (Still sure beats 10 cents - SS isn't even worth mentioning.)


« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2023, 09:38 »
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...Jo Anne, how do you figure out custom vs subscription sales? When I look at a week of sales, I see total earnings, but not downloads....

From this link (which is the one I bookmark when I want to go and see what has sold lately)

https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/insights/sales-earnings

To make things manageable, I change the date range on the upper left to a small-ish period - for the moment I've been looking at month to date, so 3/1/2023 to 3/19/2023 - and select the data type "Activity". That will list sales in reverse chronological order.

Then I select all the data in all the columns (including the thumbnails which Google Sheets just ignores) and copy

In Google sheets, I paste the data and then tab over to the column "License sold". From the Data menu, select Sort Range by column D (whatever column you've tabbed to) A to Z.

That will sort the range by that column which puts "custom" and "subscription" into two groups.

You can then put formulas into other cells to count the two groups (to get downloads for each), total the amount earned for each (from the royalty column) and calculate the RPD for each.

You could do very similar things with Excel, but Sheets is free and very easily shareable

Does that help?

« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2023, 14:27 »
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A bit quieter for me last week. No idea why. Sales were chugging along very nicely  :)
« Last Edit: March 19, 2023, 14:31 by stocky »

« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2023, 21:49 »
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It's slowed down for me for the past week or so too but in general they are the only agency where sales are increasing.

« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2023, 22:22 »
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...Jo Anne, how do you figure out custom vs subscription sales? When I look at a week of sales, I see total earnings, but not downloads....

From this link (which is the one I bookmark when I want to go and see what has sold lately)

https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/insights/sales-earnings

To make things manageable...

Does that help?

Yes - very helpful! Thanks! I hadn't thought to use the Activity tab instead of Statistics.


« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2023, 04:28 »
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There are sales, I think it's because I put my video in a free library. Advertising works.
Yes. There are sales. I did not put any videos in any free library.

Conclusion?

Conclusion: You have to thank people who agreed to have some of their files in "free section" for your growth.

« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2023, 04:32 »
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I'm heading towards new BME.

I have 1560 files online, this year 876dls, earnings 648.
SS this year: 340dls, $92, SS became such a joke

EDIT: Go Adobe!

Second EDIT: I don't upload much anymore, added some PNG files, that I had for Canva, had some good success with some of those files, one of them sold 170 times to date, uploaded on 5th of November.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2023, 04:40 by Dumc »

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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2023, 12:51 »
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There are sales, I think it's because I put my video in a free library. Advertising works.
Yes. There are sales. I did not put any videos in any free library.

Conclusion?

Conclusion: You have to thank people who agreed to have some of their files in "free section" for your growth.

Well I'm not sure that we can assume, that's the only reason. But OK, Thank You back. If my 19 images, are helping everyone else, I'm happy. Some examples.



« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2023, 12:59 »
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There are sales, I think it's because I put my video in a free library. Advertising works.

I really don't understand how advertising in stock photography should have any effect.
 
Customers don't look for artists and then wildly buy useless images just because the portfolio looks so nice.
The customers are looking for specific themes or images for a specific purpose or project and you can assume that the artist behind the buyers absolutely no matter.
Or where do I have there my thinking error?

Under each "Free Asset", customers see the "paid assets" from the similar series.

« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2023, 13:46 »
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This article may help explain why the number of "custom" versus "subscription" royalties has been growing so fast in the last couple of months:

https://petapixel.com/2023/03/21/adobe-fights-off-canva-by-making-its-alternative-impossible-to-ignore/


« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2023, 14:38 »
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This article may help explain why the number of "custom" versus "subscription" royalties has been growing so fast in the last couple of months:

https://petapixel.com/2023/03/21/adobe-fights-off-canva-by-making-its-alternative-impossible-to-ignore/

I hope they don't next follow with the all you can eat but pay < a cent per use model

« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2023, 15:19 »
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No sales in 2 weeks. 470 images.

« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2023, 12:39 »
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No sales in 2 weeks. 470 images.

these days, that's a small portfolio, but w/o seeing it there's little to comment on

« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2023, 15:29 »
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The first time I'm getting more money from Adobe than SS. +24% this month so far.

« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2023, 02:18 »
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The first time I'm getting more money from Adobe than SS. +24% this month so far.

For me it's  +56% on Adobe this month.
SS fails to bring in many sales higher than $0.10 these days. Wasn't always like this for me since the change in royalty payments, but more balanced, but the balance between 0.10 sales and bigger sales  is constantly shifting more and more towards the first. 
At this rate, if AI doesn't  render the whole microstock bussiness unnecessary by then, SS will be one of the minor players like Bigstock or Depositphotos for me in 1 or 2 years.

« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2023, 12:24 »
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The first time I'm getting more money from Adobe than SS. +24% this month so far.

For me it's  +56% on Adobe this month.
SS fails to bring in many sales higher than $0.10 these days. ...
if that were true your RPD would be around .1 to .2 - what is yours? (and why no link to your portfolio  do you even have one?)

for many of us that isn't the case (i haven't seen anyone reporting an RPD of less than .2)  my SZS RPD  runs from .6 to 1.0, same as it was before the decrease.  AS RPD is slightly lower.  but SS income has been steady at 2-3  times AS income.  canva brings in more than AS

the AS payment for their free section does bring in a dramatic jump once a year


Uncle Pete

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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2023, 12:41 »
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The first time I'm getting more money from Adobe than SS. +24% this month so far.

For me it's  +56% on Adobe this month.
SS fails to bring in many sales higher than $0.10 these days. ...
if that were true your RPD would be around .1 to .2 - what is yours? (and why no link to your portfolio  do you even have one?)

for many of us that isn't the case (i haven't seen anyone reporting an RPD of less than .2)  my SZS RPD  runs from .6 to 1.0, same as it was before the decrease.  AS RPD is slightly lower.  but SS income has been steady at 2-3  times AS income.  canva brings in more than AS

the AS payment for their free section does bring in a dramatic jump once a year

I know different strokes. But to answer from someone who doesn't do as well as you do and has different kinds of material, and Canva rejected my application many years ago?

2023 SS RPD = .54 for someone with pretty average assets. AS RPD = .80 Earnings. Downloads SS is 54% of AS and AS income is slightly under double that for SS. For me, AS is more money, more DLs with under 1,000 assets vs over 5,000 on SS.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2023, 12:45 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2023, 12:50 »
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And remember that cascoly has said his SS portfolio is twice the size of his AS portfolio, so this isn't an apples:apples comparison

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« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2023, 13:12 »
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And remember that cascoly has said his SS portfolio is twice the size of his AS portfolio, so this isn't an apples:apples comparison

Just for the details, and yes you're correct. I'm working on it?  ;) Slowly...
Adobe = 976
SSTK = 5,351
And I have to admit that what sells on AS isn't the same as what gets downloaded on SS, for mine. So even if I am only myself, there are different images involved because AS takes things SS doesn't and visa versa.

Just paid for another year of FAA, not bragging, just treading water. $36.34 for the year. Nice to see that now and then, someone needs something that I shot.

« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2023, 13:45 »
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And remember that cascoly has said his SS portfolio is twice the size of his AS portfolio, so this isn't an apples:apples comparison

very true about the relative size, but not for RPD, and much of the difference is that AS doesn't accept editorials (i Dont know the % of sales of editorials )

AND here i was responding to a (quite common ) msg implying RPD for S was $.10 when in fact it's much higher for many of us. and the comparison is that the low raters on SS still keep them competitive for both RPD and income. AOCYMMV

« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2023, 03:16 »
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AND here i was responding to a (quite common ) msg implying RPD for S was $.10
Her Ugliness wrote -"SS fails to bring in many sales higher than $0.10 these days."
Nothing about RPD.

« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2023, 03:40 »
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and why no link to your portfolio  do you even have one?


Seriously? "Do you even have one?" No, I am not a microstock photographer at all, I am just here because I am bored.

Of course I have one, but I can tell you exactly why I don't link it: Because I want to have the freedom to post whatever honest critique I have about agencies without having to worry that they will ban my account because they don't like what I have to say. Because this has happened to contributors before.

And I never said I am "only" getting 0.10 sales, I said "SS fails to bring in many sales higher than $0.10 these days."
« Last Edit: March 26, 2023, 04:10 by Her Ugliness »

Justanotherphotographer

« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2023, 04:06 »
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The first time I'm getting more money from Adobe than SS. +24% this month so far.

For me it's  +56% on Adobe this month.
SS fails to bring in many sales higher than $0.10 these days. ...

if that were true your RPD would be around .1 to .2 - what is yours? (and why no link to your portfolio  do you even have one?)...

I dont think your maths checks out?

For example if they have 10 sales, 9 for 10c and one for $3 their RPD would be  39c yet they would be correct that SS fails to bring in many sales higher than 10c (i.e. 1 in 10)

« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2023, 12:27 »
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« Last Edit: March 26, 2023, 12:32 by cascoly »

« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2023, 12:31 »
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« Last Edit: March 26, 2023, 12:34 by cascoly »


 

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