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« on: June 18, 2019, 09:04 »
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After my sales at adobe began to fall I starts looking on Recent top sellers or Insight to see what content sells best today. There is many great new and old contributors. But today I find one portfolio with many similar images. Is this allowed? If I try upload some similar backgrounds like this or some other stuff I always got rejection.

How many white wooden backgrounds have this guy?

https://stock.adobe.com/si/contributor/203117461/elovich

Btw, congrats to him or her, greats images.








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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2019, 09:03 »
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That video collection must be an error.  :o

Wood backgrounds person:  File #:  127568738

One of my more recent uploads:  File #:  261822387

Which is 134,253,649 files ago for the backgrounds. Maybe someone else is better at this and can see the date uploaded? I'm not that great at navigating AS at this time. I think the backgrounds were added around Nov of 2016.

Adobe bought FT sometime in 2015, who knows when the stricter rules were activated.


« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2019, 14:55 »
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Wow! Just wow.

How in hell does Adobe allow that???

Each one ends on different words, so I guess it's not considered similar. It's a bit crazy.


« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2019, 08:49 »
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Wow! Just wow.

How in hell does Adobe allow that???

It's a tough one to be sure - I hadn't seen this series until I reviewed this thread. 

Generally speaking, I've provided guidance that similar shots are acceptable within reason.  If there's a different take with the same enactment, a different focal length, an animation with a different colorization, etc.  I'll have to look deeper into this one as it may be a bit....extreme.  ;)

I think I know how to fix this in the future.

Thanks for making me aware.

Thanks, Dennis, for checking this out.

I'm sure we all would like to understand if there are notable differences, and if not how they got through.

« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2019, 10:57 »
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Wow! Just wow.

How in hell does Adobe allow that???

It's a tough one to be sure - I hadn't seen this series until I reviewed this thread. 

Generally speaking, I've provided guidance that similar shots are acceptable within reason.  If there's a different take with the same enactment, a different focal length, an animation with a different colorization, etc.  I'll have to look deeper into this one as it may be a bit....extreme.  ;)

I think I know how to fix this in the future.

Thanks for making me aware.

Thanks, Dennis, for checking this out.

I'm sure we all would like to understand if there are notable differences, and if not how they got through.

The differences are in the message the end. Most clients wouldnt know how to add the messages to these concepts and make them blend in with the motion graphics so there is a market for this.

However, in this instance the volume of clips in this one sequence (if Im seeing it correctly on my iPad) is excessive if it truly is 5000+ Of the same concept and nothing else in his port. Secondly, with Adobe not allowing contributors to select the relevant thumbnail they all look the same and clients would have to watch it till the end (30secs or so) to understand why it was returned in the search. This is not good and would also go against the contributor as most will sink without a trace.

Personally I would only submit concept work like this if the thumbnail makes it clear what it is about so the clients will see the actual message before playing the clip.

Hopefully we dont throw the baby out with the bath water! There is a market there for material like this and it isnt straightforward for someone to add these messages to a 4K file without the right software and hardware but, common sense has to come in to play.... 5000 of one concept is more than a little crazy.

Edit..... I would also hope that the key wording for each file is distinctive and not the same across all files. Having distinctive keywords from one file to another would mean they wont all show up in one search and that only the correct one or two appear. If they all appear on mass because keywords are mostly the same then that would have to change.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 11:01 by HalfFull »

« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2019, 11:04 »
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I can see narrowing those 5000 (!) down to the 20 most relevant messages. 5000 is just ridiculous. Without being able to choose a thumbnail, has the contributor added the text message to the description so the buyer knows the message? I am guessing no, that the description was copied and pasted. Thieves, after all, are lazy. (I dont care enough to go check again.)


« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2019, 11:21 »
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I can see narrowing those 5000 (!) down to the 20 most relevant messages. 5000 is just ridiculous. Without being able to choose a thumbnail, has the contributor added the text message to the description so the buyer knows the message? I am guessing no, that the description was copied and pasted. Thieves, after all, are lazy. (I dont care enough to go check again.)

20 would be extreme in the opposite direction. Remember, clients will not be able to add words themselves without difficulty even if they have enough computing power and the right software. 5-10% of what theyve submitted should be enough. I often get emails from clients asking me to create custom files for them... great for me as I get all the money.

What I would rather see is adobe allowing some sort of Apple Motion 5 templates rather than just After Effects. That said though, that wouldnt work for clients searching a specific term .... for example, Security as you cannot keyword a template file to show up for these searches without having hundreds of keywords.

Incidentally, I didnt see any reason to call them/ insinuate theyre a thief
« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 11:24 by HalfFull »

« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2019, 12:47 »
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I can see narrowing those 5000 (!) down to the 20 most relevant messages. 5000 is just ridiculous. Without being able to choose a thumbnail, has the contributor added the text message to the description so the buyer knows the message? I am guessing no, that the description was copied and pasted. Thieves, after all, are lazy. (I dont care enough to go check again.)

20 would be extreme in the opposite direction. Remember, clients will not be able to add words themselves without difficulty even if they have enough computing power and the right software. 5-10% of what theyve submitted should be enough. I often get emails from clients asking me to create custom files for them... great for me as I get all the money.

What I would rather see is adobe allowing some sort of Apple Motion 5 templates rather than just After Effects. That said though, that wouldnt work for clients searching a specific term .... for example, Security as you cannot keyword a template file to show up for these searches without having hundreds of keywords.

Incidentally, I didnt see any reason to call them/ insinuate theyre a thief


I disagree. And by posting 5000, they are gaming the system (or trying to). Call it cheating, thievery, whatever you like. I call it ridiculous that its even allowed.

« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2019, 13:03 »
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I can see narrowing those 5000 (!) down to the 20 most relevant messages. 5000 is just ridiculous. Without being able to choose a thumbnail, has the contributor added the text message to the description so the buyer knows the message? I am guessing no, that the description was copied and pasted. Thieves, after all, are lazy. (I dont care enough to go check again.)


20 would be extreme in the opposite direction. Remember, clients will not be able to add words themselves without difficulty even if they have enough computing power and the right software. 5-10% of what theyve submitted should be enough. I often get emails from clients asking me to create custom files for them... great for me as I get all the money.

What I would rather see is adobe allowing some sort of Apple Motion 5 templates rather than just After Effects. That said though, that wouldnt work for clients searching a specific term .... for example, Security as you cannot keyword a template file to show up for these searches without having hundreds of keywords.

Incidentally, I didnt see any reason to call them/ insinuate theyre a thief


I disagree. And by posting 5000, they are gaming the system (or trying to). Call it cheating, thievery, whatever you like. I call it ridiculous that its even allowed.

I agree, 5000 of the same concept is extreme and they are trying to tip the system in their favour... way more than what is acceptable, just the use of the word, thieves feels a bit off base in this instance.

« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 13:09 by HalfFull »

« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2019, 17:37 »
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« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 18:48 by cathyslife »


 

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