Author Topic: Adobe Stock 4K video now available in subscriptions (Read 4042 times)

DanielVisuals · « **Reply #50 on:** February 08, 2024, 20:48 »

From a buyer’s perspective, stoker is correct. A friend who frequently buys stock footage said it made no sense that agencies price HD and 4K clips differently. From a seller’s perspective (like myself), I can understand the buyer’s argument, but I would instead prefer selling it at a higher price. However, if other agencies such as istock, offer 4K and HD at the same price, then it makes sense for AS to adjust their offering to be more competitive.

I can now see a clear competitive advantage for contributors with 4K clips competing with others with similar subjects but in HD. Buyers may be more enticed to go for the 4K clip, leading to more sales for that contributor.

dragonblade · « **Reply #51 on:** February 08, 2024, 21:08 »

Quote from: danielstassen on February 08, 2024, 20:48

A friend who frequently buys stock footage said it made no sense that agencies price HD and 4K clips differently.

It still makes sense to me (even for a buyer.) A buyer will also need to deal with increased storage costs when acquiring 4k footage - which justifies the higher price.

It's a similar kind of thing when buying an external hdd. A 2TB ext. hdd will typically cost more than a 1TB ext. hdd (from the same brand.)

Likewise, a chocolate bar that is 20% larger than another chocolate bar will usually command a higher price.

DanielVisuals · « **Reply #52 on:** February 08, 2024, 22:33 »

Quote from: dragonblade on February 08, 2024, 21:08

Quote from: danielstassen on February 08, 2024, 20:48
A friend who frequently buys stock footage said it made no sense that agencies price HD and 4K clips differently.

It still makes sense to me (even for a buyer.) A buyer will also need to deal with increased storage costs when acquiring 4k footage - which justifies the higher price.

It's a similar kind of thing when buying an external hdd. A 2TB ext. hdd will typically cost more than a 1TB ext. hdd (from the same brand.)

Likewise, a chocolate bar that is 20% larger than another chocolate bar will usually command a higher price.

While it may make sense to you, it may also not make sense to some buyers. Buyers may argue that the subject matter is the same regardless of file size. We can view this from many different angles. At the end, our opinion will not change anything in the grand scheme of things.

From my side, although I’m unhappy about AS’s decision to price HD and 4K the same for their subscription customers, I can also clearly understand why they decided to go that way. Stock agencies must compete in an increasingly competitive landscape.

dragonblade · « **Reply #53 on:** February 08, 2024, 23:20 »

Quote from: danielstassen on February 08, 2024, 22:33

Buyers may argue that the subject matter is the same regardless of file size.

Yes, there could be a choice between a 4k and a HD version of the same footage. The content will be exactly the same. However, the 4k version will allow the buyer to crop the footage extensively and still end up with a decent amount of resolution. And I would say that places a higher value on the 4k version. Plus the 4k version will also have a potentially wider range of applications (eg usage in big screen movies.)

gnirtS · « **Reply #54 on:** February 09, 2024, 00:20 »

Sad but entirely predictable that AS is chasing Shutterstock in the race to the bottom. An effective paycut for contributors.

Very little point uploading 4k here now if its just going to be sold off for pennies. Might actually be worth deleting existing 4ks so it doesn't eat into sales from P5 and elsewhere.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #55 on:** February 09, 2024, 02:55 »

Quote from: dragonblade on February 08, 2024, 21:08

Quote from: danielstassen on February 08, 2024, 20:48
A friend who frequently buys stock footage said it made no sense that agencies price HD and 4K clips differently.

It still makes sense to me (even for a buyer.) A buyer will also need to deal with increased storage costs when acquiring 4k footage - which justifies the higher price.

It's a similar kind of thing when buying an external hdd. A 2TB ext. hdd will typically cost more than a 1TB ext. hdd (from the same brand.)

Likewise, a chocolate bar that is 20% larger than another chocolate bar will usually command a higher price.

This means that 4K video needs to be sold cheaper than HD video. Because the buyer will still spend more money on memory to store it.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #56 on:** February 09, 2024, 03:00 »

Quote from: dragonblade on February 08, 2024, 20:28

4k video generally has considerably higher bitrate than HD video.

Good cameras also shoot HD with a very high bitrate.
The bitrate size also depends on the video resolution; there is no point in making a very large bitrate for HD video.
As I already gave a link, quality depends on many factors, not just the bitrate.

trucic · « **Reply #57 on:** February 09, 2024, 04:24 »

It will be fair to have info of downloaded file resolution, next to sale report on dashboad… contributor will have more data to conclude if it is worth or not to have 4k files online…

synthetick · « **Reply #58 on:** February 09, 2024, 05:15 »

Quote from: trucic on February 09, 2024, 04:24

It will be fair to have info of downloaded file resolution, next to sale report on dashboad… contributor will have more data to conclude if it is worth or not to have 4k files online…

You can get that info by downloading the .csv file. The button for this is at the top right when viewing your insights by Activity.

trucic · « **Reply #59 on:** February 09, 2024, 06:00 »

Quote from: synthetick on February 09, 2024, 05:15

Quote from: trucic on February 09, 2024, 04:24
It will be fair to have info of downloaded file resolution, next to sale report on dashboad… contributor will have more data to conclude if it is worth or not to have 4k files online…

You can get that info by downloading the .csv file. The button for this is at the top right when viewing your insights by Activity.

Thanks I do know about that, but now, when there is no difference in buyers perspective, for artist it will be useful to do ‘Subscription HD’ and ‘Subscription 4k’ titles in Dashboard - Activity list…

synthetick · « **Reply #60 on:** February 10, 2024, 18:25 »

I discovered that Shutterstock also has 4K and HD at the same price now in subscriptions. Anyone know if this is new in response to Adobe or has it been like that for a while?
https://www.shutterstock.com/pricing/video

DanielVisuals · « **Reply #61 on:** February 10, 2024, 23:16 »

Quote from: synthetick on February 10, 2024, 18:25

I discovered that Shutterstock also has 4K and HD at the same price now in subscriptions. Anyone know if this is new in response to Adobe or has it been like that for a while?
https://www.shutterstock.com/pricing/video

As far as I’m aware that pricing was in place on SS before AS adjusted their offerings.

blvdone · « **Reply #62 on:** February 11, 2024, 12:45 »

I just hope everybody starts deleting their 4k videos on Adobe Stock and re-upload HD version. Or delete videos for good like I did in last May. I deleted like 7,000 videos one by one. Now I don't have to worry about customers paying much less on Adobe Stock than Pond5 for the same videos because I'm 100% Pond5 Exclusive and get 60% royalty.

Shutter Angle · « **Reply #63 on:** February 12, 2024, 08:49 »

I haven't gotten a response to my request yet,

but I checked my recent sales and they were indeed 4K subscriptions at 2.80$

I don't sell much as I don't have that many assets yet, but I had multiple 4K video sales in 4 days, usually I have the same amount in HD videos in a month or so.
My last 4K sale before the subscription change was actually many many months ago ....

I guess it's too early to say, but if total sales increase then I hope this will offset the reduction in returns per sale.

I can only assume that Adobe want's to maximize sale revenue and that they know what they're doing, but I'll keep observing, and uploading (in 4K)

dragonblade · « **Reply #64 on:** March 27, 2024, 04:57 »

Just to clarify, with regards to non subscription sales, would we still get a significantly higher value sale for a 4k video compared to a HD video sale?

Andrej.S. · « **Reply #65 on:** March 27, 2024, 06:19 »

@stocker2014

If you apply your logic to the pre subscription era, then we should all have become millionaires with subs because of more sales.
But the opposite happened. The earnings have almost completely disappeared. Some contributors had earnings between 20k and 50k a month (!) and fell to just 1k or 2k USD.
The same will happen with videos. You just have no long experience in this industry.

synthetick · « **Reply #66 on:** March 27, 2024, 06:46 »

Quote from: Andrej.S. on March 27, 2024, 06:19

@stocker2014

If you apply your logic to the pre subscription era, then we should all have become millionaires with subs because of more sales.
But the opposite happened. The earnings have almost completely disappeared. Some contributors had earnings between 20k and 50k a month (!) and fell to just 1k or 2k USD.
The same will happen with videos. You just have no long experience in this industry.

That is generally my experience (not making 20k to 50k a month though!), having been a video contributor since 2008, and earning a reasonable full time living from it until subs and other changes hit video sales.

gnirtS · « **Reply #67 on:** March 27, 2024, 09:41 »

Quote from: synthetick on March 27, 2024, 06:46

That is generally my experience (not making 20k to 50k a month though!), having been a video contributor since 2008, and earning a reasonable full time living from it until subs and other changes hit video sales.

Example would be SS. Prior to subs and 4k video sub my average income from a sale was $40. Now its $8.

Ive seen no noticeable uptick in sale volume at all to begin to address that shortfall.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #68 on:** March 27, 2024, 10:04 »

SS subscription is not correct. The subscription should cost $16-25 per month and the buyer should receive unlimited video downloads. In this case, the author's income increases.

blvdone · « **Reply #69 on:** March 27, 2024, 10:52 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on March 27, 2024, 10:04

SS subscription is not correct. The subscription should cost $16-25 per month and the buyer should receive unlimited video downloads. In this case, the author's income increases.

Are you serious or joking? If you are serious, how will that increase contributors' income?

Ambu · « **Reply #70 on:** March 27, 2024, 11:04 »

Quote from: blvdone on March 27, 2024, 10:52

Quote from: stoker2014 on March 27, 2024, 10:04
SS subscription is not correct. The subscription should cost $16-25 per month and the buyer should receive unlimited video downloads. In this case, the author's income increases.

Are you serious or joking? If you are serious, how will that increase contributors' income?

Did you read his previous responses ( about unlimited subscription plans/sites) to other posts? If you did, I don't know why you wasting your time to responding him

blvdone · « **Reply #71 on:** March 27, 2024, 11:10 »

Quote from: Ambu on March 27, 2024, 11:04

Quote from: blvdone on March 27, 2024, 10:52
Quote from: stoker2014 on March 27, 2024, 10:04
SS subscription is not correct. The subscription should cost $16-25 per month and the buyer should receive unlimited video downloads. In this case, the author's income increases.

Are you serious or joking? If you are serious, how will that increase contributors' income?

Did you read his previous responses to other posts? If you did, I don't know why you wasting your time to responding him

Ah, OK.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #72 on:** March 27, 2024, 11:41 »

Quote from: Ambu on March 27, 2024, 11:04

Quote from: blvdone on March 27, 2024, 10:52
Quote from: stoker2014 on March 27, 2024, 10:04
SS subscription is not correct. The subscription should cost $16-25 per month and the buyer should receive unlimited video downloads. In this case, the author's income increases.

Are you serious or joking? If you are serious, how will that increase contributors' income?

Did you read his previous responses ( about unlimited subscription plans/sites) to other posts? If you did, I don't know why you wasting your time to responding him

+100
Accordingly, I will not waste time on answers and explanations.

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