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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2024, 13:14 »
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Isn't the solution to start uploading 8k for the pros?

I mean it is the way things evolve, while hd is still usable, many now prefer 4k, Adobe is reacting to that by making 4k the mainstream choice.

I am not a video pro, but my personal opinion or choice would be to focus on the higher quality for the new situation.

I am still uploading a mix of 4k and hd, but as soon as I can afford a simple 8k camera, I will focus on that.

Or is that a silly idea?

Tv is in 1080 or 720. Kids don't see Tv. They turn it on for news or football games. Rarely go to cinema and they consume tik tok and youtube (HD/720). Netflix/HBO here the standard is 720. In Corporate videos clients have been requesting HD/720 for youtube usually because of fast download. For Mobile Consume is the same.... so i don't find any use in 4k and above for most of the end users (viewers) - maybe only for post-production. But why should a client pay for 4k even when they got already good AI upscale SW?

I got only a few sales of 4K last year. 0 in 8K.
I am almost uploading only HD. Sometimes i put in description 4k/8k can be available if needed.







« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2024, 14:50 »
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You make very good points.

No 8k camera for me then. :)

« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2024, 19:50 »
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Cool. Super glad that 99% of my portfolio is in 1080p.

The remaining 4k will be pulled down and replaced with 1080p version. Thanks for letting us know!

« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2024, 07:27 »
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I had a 4k video sell for $5 about a year ago on AS. Would that have been a subscription sale for a HD version of the 4k clip? Or something else?

« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2024, 09:10 »
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I am fine with that. The only thing I care is contributor percentage fee and as far as this does not change I will still contribute to Adobe my videos.
I don't contribute a single video to Istock - Shutterstock since many years ago because of the lower royalty rate.
Everything that is lower than 30% is out for me by principle . I do not care how many million 0.10 or 0.001$ sales they make per unit.

« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2024, 09:15 »
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Of course, why value anything we do? Let's make everything 2c per download, why don't you.

Simplify it for customers, is Adobe's excuse. Right, because it's so confusing to pay more for higher quality.

And so the race to the bottom continues. Very disappointing.

« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2024, 09:24 »
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Why is 4k better quality than HD? I disagree with this statement.
4K is just a different format.
The stock agency has prices. It is logical to assume that these prices may be the same for all formats. The buyer will only buy the format he needs. The fact that we shoot in 4K is just our desire to reach those buyers who need 4K or will need it in the future.

« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2024, 09:37 »
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Why is 4k better quality than HD? I disagree with this statement.
4K is just a different format.
The stock agency has prices. It is logical to assume that these prices may be the same for all formats. The buyer will only buy the format he needs. The fact that we shoot in 4K is just our desire to reach those buyers who need 4K or will need it in the future.

4K is higher resolution than HD, it's not a different format.
Of course if matters how you obtain the 4K resolution. But generally a native 4K export should be more crisp and higher quality than the same export in HD resolution.

« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2024, 09:43 »
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Why is 4k better quality than HD? I disagree with this statement.
4K is just a different format.
The stock agency has prices. It is logical to assume that these prices may be the same for all formats. The buyer will only buy the format he needs. The fact that we shoot in 4K is just our desire to reach those buyers who need 4K or will need it in the future.

4K is higher resolution than HD, it's not a different format.
Of course if matters how you obtain the 4K resolution. But generally a native 4K export should be more crisp and higher quality than the same export in HD resolution.
The quality of the video does not depend on its resolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_quality

HD video may have better quality than 4K video. Any cheap Chinese phone shoots in 4K. And where is the quality?
If we talk about high-quality HD or 4K video, then everything depends on the monitor on which this video will be played.
But to say that 4K is better than HD is not correct.

Why should high-quality HD video cost less than 4K video? It is not right.

« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2024, 09:52 »
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Hi,
I just got the mail from Adobe so I sent them a reply asking for more information on royalties.

The websites for contributors and also for customers do not distinguish between HD and 4K.

If the rate for 4K will be the same as HD then I think I'll stop uploading 4K altogether. Most of my sales are HD subscriptions anyhow, with a few credit pack sales in HD every now and then.


« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2024, 09:57 »
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I had a 4k video sell for $5 about a year ago on AS. Would that have been a subscription sale for a HD version of the 4k clip? Or something else?

Yes, that would have been an HD version of a 4K clip that sold at a subscription price if it was a year ago.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward

« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2024, 09:57 »
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Why is 4k better quality than HD? I disagree with this statement.
4K is just a different format.
The stock agency has prices. It is logical to assume that these prices may be the same for all formats. The buyer will only buy the format he needs. The fact that we shoot in 4K is just our desire to reach those buyers who need 4K or will need it in the future.

4K is higher resolution than HD, it's not a different format.
Of course if matters how you obtain the 4K resolution. But generally a native 4K export should be more crisp and higher quality than the same export in HD resolution.
The quality of the video does not depend on its resolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_quality

HD video may have better quality than 4K video. Any cheap Chinese phone shoots in 4K. And where is the quality?
If we talk about high-quality HD or 4K video, then everything depends on the monitor on which this video will be played.
But to say that 4K is better than HD is not correct.

Why should high-quality HD video cost less than 4K video? It is not right.

4K is better than HD if all other factors are equal, because more pixels allow for more detail. This may not always be the case (upscaling, compression) but again, all other factors considered equal.

The reason 4K should in some cases cost more, is because it takes more processing power to work with 4K footage, more storage space, more exporting time and more uploading time. Over time, this cost may reduce due to cheaper storage space and faster processors, but let's not forget contributors invested in faster hardware to process 4K footage/animation. Besides, we're not talking about credit price differences here, but subscription prices so it's already getting as cheap as can be for buyers.

« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2024, 10:05 »
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Why is 4k better quality than HD? I disagree with this statement.
4K is just a different format.
The stock agency has prices. It is logical to assume that these prices may be the same for all formats. The buyer will only buy the format he needs. The fact that we shoot in 4K is just our desire to reach those buyers who need 4K or will need it in the future.

4K is higher resolution than HD, it's not a different format.
Of course if matters how you obtain the 4K resolution. But generally a native 4K export should be more crisp and higher quality than the same export in HD resolution.
The quality of the video does not depend on its resolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_quality

HD video may have better quality than 4K video. Any cheap Chinese phone shoots in 4K. And where is the quality?
If we talk about high-quality HD or 4K video, then everything depends on the monitor on which this video will be played.
But to say that 4K is better than HD is not correct.

Why should high-quality HD video cost less than 4K video? It is not right.

4K is better than HD if all other factors are equal, because more pixels allow for more detail. This may not always be the case (upscaling, compression) but again, all other factors considered equal.

The reason 4K should in some cases cost more, is because it takes more processing power to work with 4K footage, more storage space, more exporting time and more uploading time. Over time, this cost may reduce due to cheaper storage space and faster processors, but let's not forget contributors invested in faster hardware to process 4K footage/animation. Besides, we're not talking about credit price differences here, but subscription prices so it's already getting as cheap as can be for buyers.
Video detail does not depend on the resolution, but on the video bitrate and bit depth. Read what bitrate is.
As for resolution, it is only needed for the monitor. If you have a 4K monitor, then it is logical to assume that 4K will look better than HD. But, if you have an HD monitor, then the HD resolution is sufficient for that monitor.
As for your cash outlay on equipment, its up to you whether to spend the money or not. Video is a product, video resolution can increase, but this does not mean that its price should increase. Any production requires equipment costs. The price of any product is formed by market methods, and does not depend on your costs for equipment. If you are not satisfied with the prices for 4K, then do not buy equipment that shoots in 4K.
The market has long been pushing for lower video prices, which is why subscriptions are popular.
As we can see from this thread, buyers don't need 4K resolution. Therefore, in order to sell them 4K, the price may be even lower than the price of HD.
 ;D
« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 10:21 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2024, 10:25 »
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If we already talk about video quality, then we need to talk not about resolution, but about bitrate, bit depth and everything else that is written about in the link that I gave. And then the stock agency can mark such a video as high-quality and try to sell it at a higher price. But this is not real. Most buyers are not looking for technical video quality. The buyer is only interested in the story and price. The buyer is satisfied with the HD resolution.
Therefore, with a view to the future, we all spend money on 4K equipment, shoot it in 4K, after which the stocks convert it to HD and sell it to the buyer. Therefore, it is we who are the authors who have to pay the stock agencies for the fact that they are forced to store our 4K video, which is not needed by customers now.
 ;D ;D ;D
« Last Edit: February 07, 2024, 10:27 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2024, 10:34 »
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I can buy equipment for video production in 8K. But that doesn't mean I can demand high prices for this video on the stock market. The price of a video depends solely on the demand for a specific resolution. As I already wrote, there is no demand for 4K among buyers.
Those who want to make money with 4K and 8K resolution should shoot videos not for stock agencies, but for other clients. For example, television studios need this resolution in good quality. Perhaps weddings are filmed in 4K and the client is willing to pay more for 4K than for HD.

« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2024, 10:35 »
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Bro, we got it, stop replying to yourself.

« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2024, 10:42 »
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We are writing to let you know about a pricing update for video content on Adobe Stock: 4K video clips will now be offered alongside HD clips for licensing as part of Adobe Stock subscriptions. This change will simplify the offering for Stock customers, allowing them to license HD and 4K video content as well as standard images, templates, 3D, and audio tracks using their subscriptions.

There is no change to the current royalty rate.

However, it's worth noting that per-video license royalty payments for 4K videos may see a reduction, as these videos will be available to subscription customers at varying discounts based on their plans. The existing Adobe Stock royalty rate (35%) remains consistent, calculated based on the price per clip. 4K video pricing remains unchanged for all on-demand clips and credit packs.

oh cool
oh f f s

« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2024, 11:09 »
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So I guess this will mean more buyers leaving the other places and coming to Adobe.

Will be interesting to see if the sales increase.

« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2024, 19:41 »
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I re-uploaded about 20 videos recently, but I just deleted all 4k videos.  I'll re-upload them in HD only to avoid my 4k videos getting snatched for a few dollars.  I make $120 per 4k video sale on Pond5 Exclusive.  Got to protect my price.

I just deleted all my re-uploaded videos.  It's not fun seeing only getting $2.80 for a video sale.  I'll stick with Pond5 Exclusive only.

« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2024, 06:44 »
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I suggest Adobe also make the price the same for HD and 4K video (for non-subscription sales). This will lead to more 4k sales and creator income.
At the very least, we will see whether the buyer even needs 4K. But the fact that the buyer is bad at buying 4K means that the price for 4K is high for the buyer.
Initially, the price for video was formed on the market; previously there was only HD. The advent of 4K should not lead to higher prices for video.

« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2024, 12:03 »
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I suggest Adobe also make the price the same for HD and 4K video (for non-subscription sales).

I suggest they don't.

« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2024, 13:12 »
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I suggest Adobe also make the price the same for HD and 4K video (for non-subscription sales). This will lead to more 4k sales and creator income.
At the very least, we will see whether the buyer even needs 4K. But the fact that the buyer is bad at buying 4K means that the price for 4K is high for the buyer.
Initially, the price for video was formed on the market; previously there was only HD. The advent of 4K should not lead to higher prices for video.

you must a troll....or you are very bad at make your business....

« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2024, 14:35 »
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or you are very bad at make your business....
In this case, this applies to 99.9% of authors. Not many people can sell their 4K videos at prices higher than the price of HD. And so that sales are not sporadic, but constant, like HD.
I agree to sell my 4K videos at HD prices, than not selling 4K at all or selling 4K it extremely rarely.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2024, 14:39 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2024, 14:45 »
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I suggest Adobe also make the price the same for HD and 4K video (for non-subscription sales). This will lead to more 4k sales and creator income.
At the very least, we will see whether the buyer even needs 4K. But the fact that the buyer is bad at buying 4K means that the price for 4K is high for the buyer.
Initially, the price for video was formed on the market; previously there was only HD. The advent of 4K should not lead to higher prices for video.

A genius of marketplace  ;D ;D ;D
Why are you here writing in the forum? You should be really rich with your innovative ideas  ;D

« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2024, 20:28 »
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But the fact that the buyer is bad at buying 4K means that the price for 4K is high for the buyer.

You may have noticed that many times, HD sales outperform 4k sales. Indeed, there are quite a few contributors who sell a lot more HD videos than 4k videos. I would say that this is an indicator of the lack of demand for 4k footage. It looks like a lot more clients need HD footage so they generally buy more of that. It makes perfect sense to price 4k video higher than HD because of the increased storage space and longer upload times. A 4k clip may seem expensive to you but it is considerably cheaper than hiring a videographer / cinematographer and sending them to some location for a shoot.

Video detail does not depend on the resolution, but on the video bitrate and bit depth. Read what bitrate is.

4k video generally has considerably higher bitrate than HD video.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2024, 20:36 by dragonblade »


 

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