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« Reply #225 on: April 18, 2023, 08:02 »
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The free section of midjourney does not include commercial use.  The paid version does.
And how much do you have to pay for the paid version?


« Reply #226 on: April 18, 2023, 09:03 »
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Each one needs to be edited to remove the color bar in the lower right. Resizing could be done batch. Still, I haven't seen anything from Open AI that didn't need editing, and people who use the other, still need to edit for size and error's.


Not sure what color bar you are talking about, my AI images don't have any.

Everyone who still claims AI images need some major editing is either lying to keep up the pretense that there is some actual human work involved or is simply using the wrong AI image generator.
Maybe this was true for the first gen Ai generators, but by now they produce perfect results at least 90% of the time.

Perfect results, you're joking.

Artist wins and rejects the prize.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/artist-refuses-photography-award-after-revealing-his-picture-was-ai-generated/ar-AA19Yj8M
For me, working with AI image generators is a co-creation, in which I am the director. It is not about pressing a buttonand done it is. The images are "fake memories of a past, that never existed, that no-one photographed," created by putting them through AI image generators between 20 and 40 times, Eldagsen says on his website.

« Reply #227 on: April 18, 2023, 09:36 »
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I've tried midjourney, DALL-E & Adobe Firefly Beta (which is personal use only). Spent $15 in credits on Open AI (DALL-E) and the results still needed a lot of post-processing. Haven't used midjourney in months so not sure if it's gotten better but I had the best results with Adobe Firefly. Since the non-commercial beta is free I also spent several hours straight working on a concept and then used various pieces to make a composite as well as tweaking others but what I had to work with was better than I'd gotten with the other two. I even managed to get a couple cute fantasy concepts that didn't need post-processing.

Based on this experience, I can't see how anyone can generate 1000 images for commercial use on any of these platforms without spending a fair amount of $$$ (far more than what I've spent) and a lot of time. It's quicker than drawing for sure, and quicker than photography too, but the results are much more unpredictable and the results look more similar than two photos of the same place.

(I once took a 9-day trip with a friend to various European countries to shoot stock. She and I spent much of our time together traveling to the exact same places, and our shooting styles aren't vastly different. Yet, out of many thousands of images, we didn't take any that looked the same. Yet, with AI, especially with midjourney, but with the others too, it is easy to spot generative AI - results are much more similar than when two people "press a button," but I'm sure that as the technology and user's skill (I agree there is skill involved), this may change.

It requires a different kind of creativity akin to what is required to come up with stock photo concepts, so you are more of an art director, rather than an artist, though you are that too when you post-process the images, or even as you decide which images to iterate.

It's like using the Adobe "artistic" Neural filters, fun and creative, but after a while, it just does the same thing and gets rather boring.

I don't think AI will take our jobs. People are still painting in realistic styles, despite 100 years of photography. But maybe that's wishful thinking.

« Reply #228 on: April 18, 2023, 10:18 »
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The free section of midjourney does not include commercial use.  The paid version does.
And how much do you have to pay for the paid version?

https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/plans

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #229 on: April 18, 2023, 10:33 »
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The free section of midjourney does not include commercial use.  The paid version does.
And how much do you have to pay for the paid version?

https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/plans

Did they end the free plan or just a temporary halt? I never signed up.

« Reply #230 on: April 18, 2023, 10:49 »
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The free section of midjourney does not include commercial use.  The paid version does.
And how much do you have to pay for the paid version?

https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/plans

Did they end the free plan or just a temporary halt? I never signed up.

Don't know.  I'm waiting for Firefly's inclusion in Photoshop. 

« Reply #231 on: April 18, 2023, 10:55 »
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The free section of midjourney does not include commercial use.  The paid version does.
And how much do you have to pay for the paid version?

https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/plans
I think its easier, faster and cheaper for a buyer to buy everything he needs on the stock than to pay and then edit it all. But for stockers, this tool can be very useful in order to sell it later.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #232 on: April 18, 2023, 11:15 »
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The free section of midjourney does not include commercial use.  The paid version does.
And how much do you have to pay for the paid version?

https://docs.midjourney.com/docs/plans

Did they end the free plan or just a temporary halt? I never signed up.

Don't know.  I'm waiting for Firefly's inclusion in Photoshop.

I forgot about that. There sure is some interesting competition going on. And then there will be the usual, sorting out as the market is established for the top versions, and the rest shut down. If that happens and I have CC for two more years, I'll have to hope it's better than Open AI / DALL-E.

Probably named in honor of Rufus T. Firefly, who was the president of Freedonia.



« Reply #233 on: April 19, 2023, 01:36 »
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firefly is also a cult scifi series
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series)

« Reply #234 on: May 27, 2023, 12:12 »
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I keep looking at the new uploads for gen ai content.

While the content is often stunningly beautiful, a lot of the content is very, very similar. I suppose this is because everybody is copying everyone and mostly it all comes from midjourney.

So...I am wondering, has Adobe considered checking any incoming content against existing content and to give the content that is really something new a boost in the algorithms?

This would of course also work for normal fotos, millions of files of plates of spaghetti on red and white napkin...if someone uploads a plate on a pink and blue napkin, it would be something different for that theme and would deserve an intial boost.

Obviously then the customers will then effect the real positions by lightboxing and buying or ignoring these files.

Adobe could use ai recognition in the database to diversify the results.

Perhaps Adobe is already doing this, but gen ai is bringing "similar" (copycat) content to new levels, I was wondering if something like this would help.

Adobe could even implement a "similar" checker or tester for contributors. We could have an application that allows us to test for "visual uniqueness" of content.

"Only 0.3 percent of files are visually similar for these keywords"...or something like that.

Or you upload a series and the software marks the files that are more unique.

You then still need to decide if the more unique file is a useful file, but having some visual feedback could give interesting guidance and help to diversify the overall collection.

Also would be useful for all the newbies, who just sort by downloads and then copy the highest ranking file.

Just a little idea.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2023, 14:21 by cobalt »


 

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