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« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2008, 02:40 »
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your image is blurry and not sharp on 100% view. It would be rejected anyway.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2008, 06:07 by Peter »


« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2008, 04:28 »
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I know, I should sort keywords by relevance, pick up right categories etc, but I'll never do that for them as long as they keep such a poor site and awkward behaviors.

If you don't sort keywords by relevance then you wont sell very much at Fotolia. Why don't you just write your keywords in order of relevance in the first place? Then FT is happy, nobody else cares and you'll sell more photo's. Right now it's just you who's losing out.

« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2008, 06:07 »
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that was half year ago. Today keyword order at FT is not important anymore. Tested.

msv

« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2008, 07:15 »
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If you don't sort keywords by relevance then you wont sell very much at Fotolia. Why don't you just write your keywords in order of relevance in the first place? Then FT is happy, nobody else cares and you'll sell more photo's. Right now it's just you who's losing out.

that was half year ago. Today keyword order at FT is not important anymore. Tested.

I keep all keywords, titles etc in IPTC data in the source TIFF files, I try to keep there in order, but I focus my metadata on top earners.

I'm happy the order in Fotolia is not relevant anymore, now what about the 7 keywords limit? I've read contrasting opinions and tests about.

Anyway I'd follow their guidelines if the search engine was a bit reliable.

« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2008, 07:52 »
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If you don't sort keywords by relevance then you wont sell very much at Fotolia. Why don't you just write your keywords in order of relevance in the first place? Then FT is happy, nobody else cares and you'll sell more photo's. Right now it's just you who's losing out.

that was half year ago. Today keyword order at FT is not important anymore. Tested.

I keep all keywords, titles etc in IPTC data in the source TIFF files, I try to keep there in order, but I focus my metadata on top earners.

I'm happy the order in Fotolia is not relevant anymore, now what about the 7 keywords limit? I've read contrasting opinions and tests about.

Anyway I'd follow their guidelines if the search engine was a bit reliable.

their guidelines says that you can cache out any amount of credits over 2. lol. those are outdated and they never update it.

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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2008, 08:15 »
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Don't worry about the rejection, on fotolia you can resubmit some day after and you will be accepted maybe because another person is checking your photos. In Istock a rejection lower your rating, you lose more time than a week and one of 15 chance to upload for every rejection you have, and some time the reason are very silly, take a look at this one


The logo thing is stretching it a bit.  "People" refers to more than one person. But they really don't make that clear so a lot of keywords have different meanings to different people which is part of the problem.

You can use Scout but I think it would get turned down for softness anyway.

« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2008, 05:19 »
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Looks like there is a nice reviewer there these days.I was clearing up my queue and  5/5 were accepted :)
Sales are crap by the way :(
L

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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2008, 10:57 »
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The site must have experienced a real slowdown in the number of images being submitted.  Some folks just don't have common sense.  If any site starts rejecting over 70% of the majority of images submitted by nearly every contributer, they have to expect most normal people will become discouraged.

Add to that - crappy sales of less than $75 for a year, and there is little reason to go through a futile upload process.  I realize many contributors make $75 a day there, but not all photogs are equal.  Fot is my worst site for sales, but I do have a small portfolio.  Since I do not use models or people in general, the type images I submit don't do that well there.  On the other hand - many of you guys and gals are doing well there.  Personally, I cannot blame the site for my low sales there - it is my problem. 

To those who are getting a good number of sales, I would recommend hanging in there.  Make all you can

« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2008, 14:33 »
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This one below I'm finding more and more of.

Your photograph did not reach our desired level of aesthetic quality.

Xalanx

« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2008, 15:19 »
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Latest batch - about 70 uploaded, 60 approved. Most of the rejections are "similar photo" - but FT is very intransigent with similarities, much more than anyone else.
Sales started doing pretty good too, after about 1-2 weeks of decline.
Yes, their standards are quite high but that only makes me upload only quality stuff. I normally don't brag about rejection reasons. I just move on, go out and take some new photos.

graficallyminded

« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2008, 18:12 »
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Nobody usually talks about them, who has the time?  But the reason why this thread was started was because the majority of people (not just newbies) have been getting 70-80% of all uploads rejected.

I'm a photo reviewer myself, for one of the big 6.  I've also been doing stock for 3 years, so I think I know what will cut it and what won't when it comes to stock.

« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2008, 22:41 »
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Fotolia is nice agency...check this http://admin.fotolia.com/p/180036?order=creation
seem everything he uploaded was approved.  ;D

« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2008, 22:56 »
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I haven't uploaded at FT in months. Maybe when the rejection rate eases I'll  spend some time. But what I'm seeing is FT just not yielding the $$ with their miniscule percentage --  so maybe I won't bother spending more time uploading. Just getting the few bucks a month from what's already there. In fact I wouldn't close my account as that would take even more work.

« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2008, 12:28 »
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I am getting really angry with fotolia and I am starting to think of giving them up. I am fed up with their "similar photo" rejections for photos with USD/EUR/CZK or flasks with potions in different colours or food on different trays or vertical/horizontal compositions. I am absolutely sure that a US customer looking for a money concept WILL NOT buy my pictures with euros! And a customer looking for a RED drink WOULD NOT buy a green one and then try to change the colour!
I used to solve the problem by dividing the "similar" pictures into several batches - and it used to be OK. But now they seem to have hired some new nutters who look at your older images! I have just a lot of pictures rejected for "similars" - and looking into it I have found out they are "similar" to a batch I uploaded a few weeks ago! This is really too much. And since the sales are getting worse there - more and more subs, I think they are not worth my time any more.

« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2008, 14:13 »
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I am on 50 % app. rate...
What is success, ha!?  :D :D

« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2008, 15:15 »
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Yeah, OK, but I used to have about 90% of my files approved! And now that!

« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2008, 19:09 »
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I dont have any of these problems.  I have     
   O N E   photo there.  yup, one.  8)=tom

« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2008, 19:46 »
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I have had more then my share of rejections lately from Fotolia as well.  And, probably 95% of the rejections I get from them are the Overabundant catagory.  Don't they think their customers deserve some fresh new work, or are they going to just lock in the old stuff.  I think they need to weed out some of the stuff that has been on there a couple years that hasn't sold and make room for new work.  Just my 2 cents worth.  I could understand if my photos were being rejected for a technical reason, but it just gripes me when they tell me they are tuning it down just because they already have enough of that subject. >:(

RacePhoto

« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2008, 19:51 »
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I dont have any of these problems.  I have     
   O N E   photo there.  yup, one.  8)=tom

I'm way, way, ahead of you. I deleted all my photos except two!  ;D Just in case I wanted the account to stay alive, but I'm giving up for now. That's right only two. I have nothing against them, I was just cutting back on sites.

How does Fotolia get this into their press release? "[Fotolia]...the largest global online marketplace for micro-priced digital stock images, announced today a corporate subscription-based offering that will give users four tiers of subscription access to its image library of nearly 4 million stock images."

Are they really the largest?

« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2008, 03:23 »
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My huge problem with Fotolia is that I'm not learning anything from their rejections. They accepted an image with purple fringing (ooooooops, sorry for that, totally missed it in that image of the series) and they rejected for quality of the photograph an entire series that was accepted everywhere else. They just didn't need that subject, fair enough, don't be shy, tell me.

I never complain about rejections, it's always my fault, but please tell me why it was rejected. That helps me more than random rejections with random reasons.

« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2008, 13:36 »
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....  Don't they think their customers deserve some fresh new work, or are they going to just lock in the old stuff.  I think they need to weed out some of the stuff that has been on there a couple years that hasn't sold and make room for new work.  Just my 2 cents worth.  I could understand if my photos were being rejected for a technical reason, but it just gripes me when they tell me they are tuning it down just because they already have enough of that subject. >:(

actually FT is the only agency i know of that promised to winnow the files - their terms said they would delete any images that didnt sell after 18 mo -- i thought that was brave talk when i read it -- since agencies brag about quantity, what MS is going to post a banner saying "we just went from 2 million to 1.5 million, but trust us, they're all really good now!"

steve

« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2008, 10:26 »
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Fotolia rejected all photos last batch. Can't believe it :) really still can't believe it... ok this will be another xp for me

« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2008, 14:16 »
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Fotolia is nice agency...check this http://admin.fotolia.com/p/180036?order=creation
seem everything he uploaded was approved.  ;D



yep that's incredible. The thing that frustrates me is that there is no rhyme or real reason behind rejections. The way they're notified makes it very hard to line up why an image was rejected also.

Then you see some galleries with what appear to be endless variations of the same thing...

« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2008, 17:45 »
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I submit to 8 sites (not counting MostPhotos), tracking approvals/rejections of each file at each site in a cumulative sreadsheet. This gives me a nice option to collect some statistics when I feel like it.

I now looked at FL rejections relative to the number of approvals at other sites and here are the numbers!

9 images were approved by 7 sites (only Fotolia rejected them!)
50 images were approved by 6 sites
82 images were approved by 5 sites
131 image was approved by 4 sites

I won't list 3's and 2's as they were probably right to be rejected by FL, but anything, which was approve by 5 sites or more I would consider stock-worthy.

What is also interesting, is that I have images approved by FL, which are rejected by most of the other agencies...

« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2008, 11:46 »
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Fotolia is nice agency...check this http://admin.fotolia.com/p/180036?order=creation
seem everything he uploaded was approved.  ;D



yep that's incredible. The thing that frustrates me is that there is no rhyme or real reason behind rejections. The way they're notified makes it very hard to line up why an image was rejected also.

Then you see some galleries with what appear to be endless variations of the same thing...


Really frustrating >:(


 

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