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« on: February 12, 2008, 16:12 »
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My original post modified on the basis of too much thinking too early in the morning......
« Last Edit: February 12, 2008, 17:06 by hatman12 »


« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 16:17 »
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That's not true.  We get exactly the same wherever the image is sold.   We get paid 1$ per credit the same as you do.  Possibly fotolia get paid more, I don't know but we definitely don't see any of it.

« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2008, 16:26 »
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I get 57 pence per credit, not 1.

« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2008, 16:30 »
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I think you are both (first 2 posters) incorrect. Here is my take:

I am registered through fotolia UK and here is how I understand it:

Let's say I get one XS download and I get one credit.

For us members: 1 credit = 1 US dollar
For me (UK member): 1 Credit =  0.57

So is 0.57 more that $1 US??? Right now yes.

SO, I get more money by being registered as UK member but the difference depends on exchange rates and during my last payout it was about 14% more.

So it is not double, but it is also not the same.

Any members from countries that have EURO?

« Last Edit: February 12, 2008, 16:32 by maco0708 »

« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 16:36 »
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Ah, okay I assumed that in the UK and Europe a photographers 'credit' would be the same as the buyers 'credit'.  That's clearly wrong.

But why in the UK do you only get 57p for a credit when the customer pays 1.  According to the Fotolia pay scale you get 33%, but in this case they've reduced the credit from 1 to 57p before calculating your 33%.

So UK photographers aren't getting 33% of the sale price at all - they are getting much less.

« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2008, 16:45 »
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Okay, let me make sure I understand this correctly.

Sharpshot, you say your 'credits' are downvalued to 57p, so you then get paid 33% (at base level) of 57p?  That's 18.81p.

The customer pays 1 for a XS photo, and you get paid 18.81p?

So that's 19% or so.

Have I understood that correctly?

If so, my first post is wrong, but also right (in a way).  The fact of the matter is that for sales in Europe, nobody is actually getting paid 33% of the sale price, but much less.

« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2008, 16:46 »
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Hatman,

One credit is 57p, and photographer's get a fixed share according to their registration site.  So indeed FT sells one credit for a bit more than US$1 in UK, and the photographer registered in USA (like me), doesn't get that extra cut.  FT takes it.  On the other side, a buyer in the USA pays less than 57p for a credit, and the UK photographer gets proportionally more.  FT gets proportionally less in this case.

Regards,
Adelaide

PS: right now US$1=51p.  Let's assume two photographers, one in USA and one in UK, both in the 35% commission.

1 credit sold in USA (US$1)
photographer in USA gets 35c, FT gets 65c
photographer in UK gets 20p=39c, FT gets 61c

1 credit sold in UK (57p=US$1.12)
photographer in USA gets 35c, FT gets 77c
photographer in UK gets 20p=39c, FT gets 37p=73c

In euros: US$1=0.685

1 credit sold in USA (US$1)
photographer in USA gets 35c, FT gets 65c
photographer in Eurozone gets 0.29=42c, FT gets 58c

1 credit sold in Eurozone (0.83=US$1.21)
photographer in USA gets 35c, FT gets 77c
photographer in Eurozone gets 0.29=42c, FT gets 0.54=79c
« Last Edit: February 12, 2008, 17:00 by madelaide »

« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2008, 17:00 »
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Madelaide it clearly states on the FT UK site that an XS image costs 1, not 57p.

And it clearly states on their French site that an XS costs 1 Euro.

On the US site an XS costs $1.  In dollars a credit = $1 and a photographer gets 33% of that.

Are you suggesting that a buyer in the UK pays 1.754 credits to buy an XS image?  This seems very unlikely.  Have you ever been credited with fractions of a credit for selling an image?

Is it possible that credits cost 1 for a buyer, but are only worth 57p for a photographer?

« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2008, 17:03 »
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Hatman,

I was also fooled by their main page before.  The numbers in the blue squares are wrong!

Check here for UK pricing.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 17:05 »
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Okay, I'm with you - I see the pricing table.

But if an XS costs 57p, why on earth does it say 1 on the home page?

Think I'll delete this thread and put it all down to too much thinking too early in the morning.

But I'd still like to double my Fotolia income.  Somehow......

« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 17:14 »
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It would still be better to be paid in the Eurozone - 42c x 35c for me.  Had I known that, I would have registered at least in the UK site...

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2008, 20:24 »
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Hatman,  convert to aus dollars and it gets more interesting :)


so if I've got this right :)

registered in us / uk / then euro
1 credit = US$0.35 = AU$0.39   (1.1 conversion)
1 credit = 20p = AU$0.43          (2.1 conversion)
1 credit = .29euro = AU$0.46    (1.6 conversion hmm, dont where to start looking for that euro symbol :)

with exchange rates it's almost a 20% difference

so can I tell them that I dont want to us registered anymore :)



« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 21:00 »
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ooh,

you can change zones :)   

but you have to be able to read / write / keyboard !! in the language of the zone.  and considering my knowledge of languages other than english doesn't extend beyond food names probably not a good idea.

people discourage it because of conversion loss, but when you have to convert anyway :)

Looks like fotolia UK, may be the go and roughly 10% pay increase!

(or am I missing something)


« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 03:07 »
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Madelaide it clearly states on the FT UK site that an XS image costs 1, not 57p.

And it clearly states on their French site that an XS costs 1 Euro.

On the US site an XS costs $1.  In dollars a credit = $1 and a photographer gets 33% of that.

Are you suggesting that a buyer in the UK pays 1.754 credits to buy an XS image?  This seems very unlikely.  Have you ever been credited with fractions of a credit for selling an image?

Is it possible that credits cost 1 for a buyer, but are only worth 57p for a photographer?


not true. Image does not cost 1 pound. it cost 1 credit. You can buy 10 credis for I dont know, 5 pounds (for example). those 1 pund/euro/dollar icons on front page are just cosmetic. hhh

and yes, because fotolia is not changing the currency course, you get about 20% more money if you are payed in euros (because dollar is dropping down).

But you can not change zone, I tried, but Chad told me it is not possible. I have to stick with USD, and hope some day it will raise again.....

« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2008, 05:01 »
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If/when the dollar does go back up it may be reversed so that people getting paid in $ earn more.  It's nice to see that on fotolia people out of the USA are actually benefiting where as on most sites we are losing out big time because of the bad exchange rate.


 

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