Post by: MatHayward on October 03, 2019, 11:35
A quick note to let you know access to submit Illustrative Editorial content to Adobe Stock has been expanded to Artists ranked Silver and above (1,000 lifetime downloads or more).
Thank you,
Mat Hayward
Post by: Hoodie Ninja on October 03, 2019, 11:46
Post by: Desintegrator on October 03, 2019, 16:06
Post by: Lina on October 03, 2019, 16:30
Maybe I find motivation to start uploading again.
Post by: Visualab on October 03, 2019, 16:33
Post by: MatHayward on October 03, 2019, 18:19
does it apply to footage or only photo?
Photos only for now.
-Mat
Post by: Visualab on October 03, 2019, 18:41
Post by: PedroToledo on October 04, 2019, 07:32
One question to clarify me illustrative editorial content: a building with property rights (for example any modern architecture building) but without signs, is illustrative editorial?
Thank you
Post by: MatHayward on October 04, 2019, 07:34
does it apply to footage or only photo?
Photos only for now.
-Mat
I should clarify this..."Images only for now." Vectors and Illustrations are welcome in addition to photographs.
Thanks,
Mat
Post by: jonbull on October 04, 2019, 08:11
for example an hotel of a touristic location is illustrative editorial?
Post by: marthamarks on October 04, 2019, 10:04
One question to clarify me illustrative editorial content: a building with property rights (for example any modern architecture building) but without signs, is illustrative editorial?
what means exactly illustrative editorial?
for example an hotel of a touristic location is illustrative editorial?
I have this same question too.
Mat, can you give us a clear definition of "illustrative editorial"?
Thanks!
Post by: derby on October 04, 2019, 10:09
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:
More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html
Post by: marthamarks on October 04, 2019, 10:24
ILLUSTRATIVE EDITORIAL
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html
OK, that helps! Thanks.
Post by: PedroToledo on October 04, 2019, 10:52
ILLUSTRATIVE EDITORIAL
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html
Thank you, I had already read it, and I know what it means in general terms: brands, signs, without recognizable people, ... but I still have doubts about buildings with property rights, for example: Empire Estate Building or any Norman Foster buildings, could they be Illustrative Editorial?
Thanks
Post by: marthamarks on October 04, 2019, 11:03
ILLUSTRATIVE EDITORIAL
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html
Thank you, I had already read it, and I know what it means in general terms: brands, signs, without recognizable people, ... but I still have doubts about buildings with property rights, for example: Empire Estate Building or any Norman Foster buildings, could they be Illustrative Editorial?
Thanks
Yes, that kind of clarification would definitely help.
I'm not ever going to do the kinds of set-up (still life) photos shown on AS's info page (the link).
However, I have on occasion photographed places with recognizable buildings. It would be useful to know that those are acceptable within the category of Illustrative Editorial.
Post by: MatHayward on October 04, 2019, 11:55
ILLUSTRATIVE EDITORIAL
It was described in other posts, here is a adobe link:More details can be read here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html
Thank you, I had already read it, and I know what it means in general terms: brands, signs, without recognizable people, ... but I still have doubts about buildings with property rights, for example: Empire Estate Building or any Norman Foster buildings, could they be Illustrative Editorial?
Thanks
There isn't a 'one-size-fits-all' answer to this question. It's going to depend on the image and the building. You want to avoid uploading as Illustrative Editorial as a method of escaping rejection. If an image can be licensed for commercial use, that's how it should be submitted. To be acceptable, Illustrative Editorial content must clearly depict a brand. If it's an unmarked building that's protected, it's unlikely a buyer would be looking for that for editorial purposes.
-Mat
Post by: PhotoBomb on October 04, 2019, 12:32
Products are "Illustrative Editorial' and identifiable buildings are just editorial on SS.
Frankly I don't understand the need for the distinction but that's the way they do it.
Adobe Stock on the other hand is lumping all editorial images (without people) into "illustrative Editorial".
As for what is acceptable at AS in regards to buildings as Commercial vs Editorial and what SS considers Commercial or Editorial can be quite different and somewhat vague, not only to contributors but to reviewers as well. Rejections are all over the place.
My advice to anyone is upload it and let AS figure it out.
Post by: mj007 on October 04, 2019, 13:26
Post by: marthamarks on October 04, 2019, 14:17
There isn't a 'one-size-fits-all' answer to this question. It's going to depend on the image and the building. You want to avoid uploading as Illustrative Editorial as a method of escaping rejection. If an image can be licensed for commercial use, that's how it should be submitted. To be acceptable, Illustrative Editorial content must clearly depict a brand. If it's an unmarked building that's protected, it's unlikely a buyer would be looking for that for editorial purposes.
-Mat
Not to belabor a point that you possibly can't clarify further… ;)
But…
A. Would a photo of a city skyline that included one iconic, recognizable building among many nondescript others pass muster for Commercial use?
B. Or does that one recognizable structure keep the whole thing from being acceptable either as Commercial or Illustrative Editorial?
C. If the answer to B is Yes… What if there's a large sign on that recognizable structure showing a specific brand name (say, Trump Tower :D), would it then be acceptable for Illustrative Editorial but not Commercial?
This isn't entirely an academic exercise for me, Mat, given that I travel a lot and often wonder if urban images are worth bothering with, rather than just the natural critters and landscapes that I usually focus on.
Thanks for your patience. ;D
Post by: MatHayward on October 04, 2019, 15:19
There isn't a 'one-size-fits-all' answer to this question. It's going to depend on the image and the building. You want to avoid uploading as Illustrative Editorial as a method of escaping rejection. If an image can be licensed for commercial use, that's how it should be submitted. To be acceptable, Illustrative Editorial content must clearly depict a brand. If it's an unmarked building that's protected, it's unlikely a buyer would be looking for that for editorial purposes.
-Mat
Not to belabor a point that you possibly can't clarify further… ;)
But…
A. Would a photo of a city skyline that included one iconic, recognizable building among many nondescript others pass muster for Commercial use?
B. Or does that one recognizable structure keep the whole thing from being acceptable either as Commercial or Illustrative Editorial?
C. If the answer to B is Yes… What if there's a large sign on that recognizable structure showing a specific brand name (say, Trump Tower :D), would it then be acceptable for Illustrative Editorial but not Commercial?
This isn't entirely an academic exercise for me, Mat, given that I travel a lot and often wonder if urban images are worth bothering with, rather than just the natural critters and landscapes that I usually focus on.
Thanks for your patience. ;D
It would depend on the image. I can't answer a hypothetical with a definite yay or nay. If the shot was of the sign then probably yes but a cityscape that happens to have the sign in it incidentally, probably no.
-Mat
Post by: marthamarks on October 04, 2019, 16:43
There isn't a 'one-size-fits-all' answer to this question. It's going to depend on the image and the building. You want to avoid uploading as Illustrative Editorial as a method of escaping rejection. If an image can be licensed for commercial use, that's how it should be submitted. To be acceptable, Illustrative Editorial content must clearly depict a brand. If it's an unmarked building that's protected, it's unlikely a buyer would be looking for that for editorial purposes.
-Mat
Not to belabor a point that you possibly can't clarify further… ;)
But…
A. Would a photo of a city skyline that included one iconic, recognizable building among many nondescript others pass muster for Commercial use?
B. Or does that one recognizable structure keep the whole thing from being acceptable either as Commercial or Illustrative Editorial?
C. If the answer to B is Yes… What if there's a large sign on that recognizable structure showing a specific brand name (say, Trump Tower :D), would it then be acceptable for Illustrative Editorial but not Commercial?
This isn't entirely an academic exercise for me, Mat, given that I travel a lot and often wonder if urban images are worth bothering with, rather than just the natural critters and landscapes that I usually focus on.
Thanks for your patience. ;D
It would depend on the image. I can't answer a hypothetical with a definite yay or nay. If the shot was of the sign then probably yes but a cityscape that happens to have the sign in it incidentally, probably no.
-Mat
Okay, and that's fine. Appreciate your input, as always!
Post by: trek on October 05, 2019, 10:54
Post by: TG1112 on October 05, 2019, 11:53
Thanks!
My I ask for an improvment? Please import both the "description" and "title" IPTC tags from the uploaded file and let me chose between them. Most often the best description is not in the title tag.
Best regards
T.G
Post by: mj007 on October 05, 2019, 14:47
Post by: mino216 on October 06, 2019, 06:44
Post by: marthamarks on October 06, 2019, 08:20
Great news. I knew that it would be available for Silver sooner than I would have reached Gold :-)
Same here! :D
However, I doubt I'll do much Illustrative Editorial. It's just not my thing.
Post by: eZeePics on October 06, 2019, 09:12
Post by: wds on October 06, 2019, 12:40
Post by: gillian vann on October 06, 2019, 17:30
Post by: steheap on December 22, 2019, 10:18
https://www.backyardsilver.com/2019/12/adobe-illustrative-editorial-stock-images/ (https://www.backyardsilver.com/2019/12/adobe-illustrative-editorial-stock-images/)
Hope it is helpful for those interested in submitting such shots to Adobe.
Steve
Post by: wds on December 27, 2019, 23:02
I had some questions from the readers of my blog about what exactly an illustrative editorial image is. I've just tried to explain that in a new post and outlined how successful the first two months of my experience with this new usage type has been with Adobe Stock:
https://www.backyardsilver.com/2019/12/adobe-illustrative-editorial-stock-images/ (https://www.backyardsilver.com/2019/12/adobe-illustrative-editorial-stock-images/)
Hope it is helpful for those interested in submitting such shots to Adobe.
Steve
How do you find your editorial sales on Adobestock vs. Shutterstock?
Post by: steheap on December 29, 2019, 11:21
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How do you find your editorial sales on Adobestock vs. Shutterstock?
That is really hard to answer. I have many more at SS because they take all sorts of editorial, and also I have no way in Microstockr Pro to split out editorial shots. I did this analysis of Adobe by eye - looking at each image that sold and deciding if it was editorial or not.
No way I can do that for SS.
To a large extent, it doesn't matter - I put all files with all agencies that will take them and use Stock Submitter to do that. So the cost of putting a file on an agency is zero so I do it. Relative sales of different types of image then are "interesting" but not "important"
Steve
Post by: ouatedeP on January 24, 2020, 18:31
Post by: MatHayward on January 25, 2020, 10:50
any information on next phase of availability?
Not at this time, I expect it will remain with the silver rank and above for a while. If you have an established portfolio of Illustrative Editorial you can submit your portfolio via the contact us link found at the bottom of the Adobe Stock Contributor portal for consideration.
-Mat Hayward
Post by: Pierivb on January 26, 2020, 04:54
"Thank you for contacting us. Currently, we are not accepting editorial submissions from individual contributors. This is by invitation only.
Unless you have been invited by our Editorial team to submit these type of files, you won't be able to sell them through our site for now.
If you have any questions, or to update your case, simply respond to this email. "
Post by: ouatedeP on January 26, 2020, 08:13
any information on next phase of availability?
Not at this time, I expect it will remain with the silver rank and above for a while. If you have an established portfolio of Illustrative Editorial you can submit your portfolio via the contact us link found at the bottom of the Adobe Stock Contributor portal for consideration.
-Mat Hayward
thanks. Don't have the availability to create portfolio at this time. was curious, and more if it was worth creating AS versions of Illustrative Editorial specific at time being, and i guess you are saying no.