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« on: April 24, 2023, 12:02 »
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I've noticed a pattern with Adobe over the years. I make the effort to upload new images... They get rejected for random reasons... I get frustrated and dont upload for weeks or months... I then get multiple sales a day, so I upload more images... Immediately after uploading, the sales completely stop... The uploads get rejected... Round and round it goes. After uploading an image 4 or 5 times it will usually get accepted but for any kind of volume of images, its just not worth it.
Its like its all a lure to keep people paying Adobe subscription fees for their software forever.
Why should a contributor operate at a loss to waste time fighting to upload images into a portfolio they have no control over for constantly falling royalties in return?

Now the Adobe guy will do his helpful thing and ask for me to upload samples of the rejected work so he can investigate and on and on like its been for years yet nothing changes or improves. A Placating game to keep you on a string.

Despite being my top agency for sales, trying to grow a portfolio here just isnt worth the time for so little.


« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2023, 14:14 »
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I do get a small perccentage of seemingly random rejections for "image quality" that I just shrug and move on (and some image quality rejections for high iso or otherwise marginal images). Also a few rejections for copyright that aren't crazy. Otherwise I haven't noticed any pattern or trend for image rejections at Adobe.

f8

« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2023, 16:43 »
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Adobe is hit and miss. I go from getting complete batches rejected, or most of the images rejected then on a total waste of time for everyone re-submit they all get accepted. It's a complete crapshoot at Adobe the last several months. There is no rhyme or reason why the reject these images. The problem is that this pattern of rejections is so random.

« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2023, 09:33 »
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I've noticed a pattern with Adobe over the years. I make the effort to upload new images... They get rejected for random reasons... I get frustrated and dont upload for weeks or months... I then get multiple sales a day, so I upload more images... Immediately after uploading, the sales completely stop... ....

it's difficult to respond to your experience when you dont link to your portfolio, or even tell us your port size & # of DL/mo - do you normally get hundreds of DL? or dozens?

somehow it's always a conspiracy when normal, random sales occur - no one seems to coplain when sales are suddenly greater than normal!

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2023, 12:35 »
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I've noticed a pattern with Adobe over the years. I make the effort to upload new images... They get rejected for random reasons... I get frustrated and dont upload for weeks or months... I then get multiple sales a day, so I upload more images... Immediately after uploading, the sales completely stop... ....

it's difficult to respond to your experience when you dont link to your portfolio, or even tell us your port size & # of DL/mo - do you normally get hundreds of DL? or dozens?

somehow it's always a conspiracy when normal, random sales occur - no one seems to coplain when sales are suddenly greater than normal!

I've asked a similar question for years. Is it "Normal" when we are getting regular downloads or when we aren't. I mean, when things are going right, that's the way it's supposed to be, because we make money. When things slow down... is that the actual normal, and making good sales is the unusual? What is normal and average actually?

Right I'll never complain when I make more than usual.

f8

« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2023, 12:57 »
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I remember a few years back I had a special folder named "SS Resubmit" due to the randomness of acceptance and rejection for reasons that defied logic.

I can proudly say I have since deleted that "special folder" and have now renamed it "AS Resubmit" due to the very same reasons.

« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2023, 13:37 »
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I've noticed a pattern with Adobe over the years. I make the effort to upload new images... They get rejected for random reasons... I get frustrated and dont upload for weeks or months... I then get multiple sales a day, so I upload more images... Immediately after uploading, the sales completely stop... ....

it's difficult to respond to your experience when you dont link to your portfolio, or even tell us your port size & # of DL/mo - do you normally get hundreds of DL? or dozens?

somehow it's always a conspiracy when normal, random sales occur - no one seems to coplain when sales are suddenly greater than normal!

I've asked a similar question for years. Is it "Normal" when we are getting regular downloads or when we aren't. I mean, when things are going right, that's the way it's supposed to be, because we make money. When things slow down... is that the actual normal, and making good sales is the unusual? What is normal and average actually?

Right I'll never complain when I make more than usual.

I've read all different kinds of weird assumptions.

- I stopped uploading and suddenly I started selling more.
- I stopped selling and suddenly after some uploads sales returned
- I got some images rejected and suddenly my sales went down
- I complained about slow sales on the Shutterstock forum and suddenly I got a sale
- I complained about Shutterstock and suddenly my sales also stopped
- Images from certain camera brands or models sell better than others (so I tamper with the EXIF data)
- Contributors from low-wage countries get a ranking bonus
- ...

People tend to link occasional sales to certain habits or own behavior on the platform, but I've never seen anything that proves any of those claims.
Yes, sales can be volatile, but I highly doubt a contributor has any impact on those fluctuations.

« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2023, 14:54 »
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you forgot a few...

new submitters get a bump in search
sales stop right before I get to payout
posts in the site forum boost sales
reviewers reject images that will compete with their own images

I too used to have a SS resubmit folder - I think almost all of the resubmitted images were accepted. I haven't bothered renaming it AS resubmit.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2023, 11:46 »
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you forgot a few...

1 new submitters get a bump in search
2 sales stop right before I get to payout
3 posts in the site forum boost sales
4 reviewers reject images that will compete with their own images

I too used to have a SS resubmit folder - I think almost all of the resubmitted images were accepted. I haven't bothered renaming it AS resubmit.

Might be the only true one between the two posts:  new submitters get a bump in search. Maybe not intentional, but if the popular algorithm looks at images by days on the site, and those do get a boost, then as an unintended effect, a new submitter will be favored until that sorts out, just like any other new images.

2 A watched pot doesn't boil. (are we there yet?  ;) )
3 How is he doing after the fall off the ladder?
4 That was IS? (not saying it's true, just saying it was the claim, because IS reviewers were contributors)

Yes and I had a resubmit folders for SS as well. For Adobe, I open and check at about 200% and see if I missed something.

No longer an issue apparently,

Time uploads so they are accepted on Monday
Every image must have 50 words! (or 49)
No clouds = no sale (but it's a good suggestion)
No Pets
No Flowers
No Sunsets,


 

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