Author Topic: Fotolia no sales (Read 17405 times)

qunamax · « **on:** August 03, 2016, 05:25 »

Hi, I started recently, got some 50-80 files on FT, IS and SS. While with IS and SS I started having downloads right after uploading some 20 files, FT has zero movement for me, some views and that's all. While I understand that my portfolio is still tiny, I was expecting at least a fraction of what is happening for me at IS and SS to get me going.

I was wondering if the country selection on FT maybe has any impact? Or FT is simply a lower performer and need bigger amount of files to get thing going?

Lana · « **Reply #1 on:** August 03, 2016, 05:40 »

Depends on how good you keyword with them - they claim it is important for the most relevant keywords to come first.
Then the content - it seems to me that Fotolia is more sensitive to certain content than Shutterstock and IS. But I could be wrong.
For instance my guess is they sell models and illustrations better than travel. I do travel and sales are steady (up and down but steady), but still only about +/- 25% of my SS earnings and a bit less than IS too.

anathaya · « **Reply #2 on:** August 03, 2016, 07:00 »

Quote from: qunamax on August 03, 2016, 05:25

Hi, I started recently, got some 50-80 files on FT, IS and SS. While with IS and SS I started having downloads right after uploading some 20 files, FT has zero movement for me, some views and that's all. While I understand that my portfolio is still tiny, I was expecting at least a fraction of what is happening for me at IS and SS to get me going.

I was wondering if the country selection on FT maybe has any impact? Or FT is simply a lower performer and need bigger amount of files to get thing going?

Probably you don't have what FT customers need. In my experience, best sellers at FT and SS are different. I don't know much about IS, but I guess IS is closer to SS with compared to FT.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 03, 2016, 15:55 »

My belief backed up by zero evidence is that Fotolia appeals more to European buyers due to content and a less smiley happy people gloss to images that appeals more to us dour cynical Europeans

gyllens · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2016, 04:08 »

Absolutely! I find your observation correct. In the beginning of the Adobe partnership sales were great with enhanced and credit sales but that all stopped and now its back to just being a "normal " micro agency unless of course sales are going somewhere else?

stuttershock · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2016, 05:17 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on August 03, 2016, 15:55

My belief backed up by zero evidence is that Fotolia appeals more to European buyers due to content and a less smiley happy people gloss to images that appeals more to us dour cynical Europeans

possibly -- this would explain a lot, including the fact that (for me, too) there are no sales on FT at all: appears to be due to that European market and (a) its, indeed, cynical buyers (or non-buyers), and (b) the overall structure of that "market" (which is not really a market at all) with tax-payer and/or mandatory-usage-fees subsidized broadcasting networks having enormous archives of their own and doing all kinds of sh!t in-house with virtually no need to source externally.

BBC as well as Italian RAI, Austrian ORF, DRS in Switzerland, DR in Denmark, and German ARD member broadcasters are top infamous examples of that (particularly in light of fascist-induced and currently "optimised" laws in Germany extorting mandatory "GEZ" or "Gebyhrenservice" fees you can only avoid by emigration (we have seen that before); most others -- including Britain's "TV licence" rules -- allow some proof of TV non-usage and then leave you alone).

Big-government and silly policies like the above always lead to distorted or wholly dysfunctional markets, coming at exceptional expense to the rest of society come time to ultimately mend and revitalise the mess they left behind.

We as stock photographers are already "bearing that cost" by not being able to sell much to European buyers (because there aren't many, largely due to those big-government broadcasting "offices" or authorities). My own sales (on DT and SS mainly to American buyers, magazines and ad agencies) reflect this in real life.

Fotolia do know this full well: their pricing structure for footage (significantly cheaper for those few European buyers they still hope to attract) very clearly reflects this fact.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2016, 06:29 »

Quote from: stuttershock on August 04, 2016, 05:17

Fotolia do know this full well: their pricing structure for footage (significantly cheaper for those few European buyers they still hope to attract) very clearly reflects this fact.

Can you explain what you mean by this? Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Fotolia footage prices are slightly higher than Shutterstock for example, no?

I sell footage on Fotolia, comparable to Shutterstock and now more than P5 which has died...

Brightontl · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2016, 15:31 »

I do only footage and I like Fotolia.
It is definetly a place where european content and look is more appreciated compared to other agencies.
But they have a problem which I hope one day they will be able to solve: They do not accept editorial and also they are totally paranoic about copyright infringements. Like many other agencies they have highly inexperienced reviewers who are probably totally scared by this paranoia for copyright. So often absolutely everything get refused for copyright infringement.
The result is that a lot of areas are not covered and I am sure that this is driving a lot of customers elsewhere

noodle · « **Reply #8 on:** August 04, 2016, 19:09 »

I would LOVE Adobe to change their policy and start accepting editorial images

They are losing out on a ton of sales and so are we

qunamax · « **Reply #9 on:** August 05, 2016, 06:33 »

Thank you for responses.
My best sellers so far on other agencies are travel photos, from Europe and I'm Europe based although not EU. Again my port is tiny and I still didn't include any released concepts, so I hope it's take off after including the stock shot stuff.

I admit I skipped the keyword ranking, but my photos do show up in searches.

rod-09 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 05, 2016, 10:05 »

2k videos and 0 sales in july

very odd

60D · « **Reply #11 on:** August 05, 2016, 11:39 »

Quote from: rod-09 on August 05, 2016, 10:05

2k videos and 0 sales in july

very odd

OMG. Sorry to that that. How are the sales in previous months?

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #12 on:** August 05, 2016, 12:19 »

Quote from: anathaya on August 03, 2016, 07:00

Quote from: qunamax on August 03, 2016, 05:25
Hi, I started recently, got some 50-80 files on FT, IS and SS. While with IS and SS I started having downloads right after uploading some 20 files, FT has zero movement for me, some views and that's all. While I understand that my portfolio is still tiny, I was expecting at least a fraction of what is happening for me at IS and SS to get me going.

I was wondering if the country selection on FT maybe has any impact? Or FT is simply a lower performer and need bigger amount of files to get thing going?

Probably you don't have what FT customers need. In my experience, best sellers at FT and SS are different. I don't know much about IS, but I guess IS is closer to SS with compared to FT.

Same here. File types that sell on FT have never had 1 sale on SS or IS. What sells over and over on SS few or none on FT.

IS is so poor and unstable I can't decide what sells and doesn't. With the partners and ts but paid, it means more different buyers might be there. With their confusing pricing, plans, collections, and subs, it drives buyers away. Inconsistent can't make sense of downloads there.

rod-09 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 06, 2016, 05:59 »

hey 60D,

I was selling around 7 to 10 videos/month before july.

cheers

AlessandraRC · « **Reply #14 on:** August 06, 2016, 09:28 »

My obs based on a small port of less than 300 pics is that there are weeks when there are many sales and then weeks when there are none, it is erratic but the pictures that sell on fotolia from my port are definitely different from those that sell on SS.

Anne · « **Reply #15 on:** August 07, 2016, 17:14 »

I have a small port on Fotolia uploading regularly and my earnings was not bad but since two months ago I have no sales only 1-3 per week.

fritz · « **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2016, 18:31 »

Quote from: 60D on August 05, 2016, 11:39

Quote from: rod-09 on August 05, 2016, 10:05
2k videos and 0 sales in july

very odd
OMG. Sorry to that that. How are the sales in previous months?

You're not alone! 1,426 videos just 1 sale in July

rod-09 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 08, 2016, 03:39 »

I upload to 4 different agencies P5, SS, VB and FT.

Before this July /august I was selling well in SS and FT but not with P5 an VB.

Now is the contrary. P5 and VB picking up and SS and FT doing very, very bad....

cathyslife · « **Reply #18 on:** August 08, 2016, 06:29 »

Quote from: rod-09 on August 08, 2016, 03:39

I upload to 4 different agencies P5, SS, VB and FT.

Before this July /august I was selling well in SS and FT but not with P5 an VB.

Now is the contrary. P5 and VB picking up and SS and FT doing very, very bad....

Typically I would say ebb and flow. That happened all the time. Now it just seems like a lot of flow.

gyllens · « **Reply #19 on:** August 09, 2016, 11:19 »

Depends on the type of rank you are. Couple of years back there was a long thread here long before the merger of Adobe and it turned out that once you reach Gold or Emerlad can't exactly remember which you were shunted back in promotion of files. This became evident when several high ranking members complained about lack of earnings and they were earning more as Silver or Gold while lower ranked members posted about good earnings.

One would have thought a comapny like Adobe wouldnt stoop to that I dont know but I suppose profit is profit and judging by this thread well your guess is as good as mine.

dragonblade · « **Reply #20 on:** February 02, 2017, 09:32 »

I only just started submitting to Fotolia myself. After about a day or so following my initial uploads, I made my first sale there. Since then, sales have been very slow but to be fair, I only have an extremely small portfolio on that site. Ive now accumulated 38 photos in my Fotolia port and made a total of 4 sales. I also submit my work to Shutterstock, iStockphoto and Dreamstime and I currently have over 100 photos on each of those sites (so still a very small amount of images.) Also just started submitting videos to SS.

qunamax · « **Reply #21 on:** February 02, 2017, 12:17 »

Fotolia is a complete mystery for me, while having daily sales on SS and IS, I maybe have one a month on FT and every second one is 0.18. At least the upload is straightforward enough.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 02, 2017, 12:34 »

Quote from: qunamax on February 02, 2017, 12:17

Fotolia is a complete mystery for me, while having daily sales on SS and IS, I maybe have one a month on FT and every second one is 0.18. At least the upload is straightforward enough.

Where are you from I think Fotolia suits the European market more?

jonbull · « **Reply #23 on:** February 02, 2017, 12:48 »

in the last three days i uploaded more than 500 files to ss and fotolia...ss accepted more than 70 % fotolia similar...in ss i'm selling practically 5 photos per hour...today i'm at 30 files sold at 18,47...fotolia i sold 1 file in three days.
what puzzle die i see many portfolio of basic files or with mostly holiday content like valentine who have green or blue rank...
i shoot mostly generic and travel and i have the impression fotolia sell mostly other kind of files. i'm also based in europe.
well i also have a lot of editorial in my portfolio who fotolia don't have but i really cannot understand why i nor sell in fotolia compared to every other agency.

jonbull · « **Reply #24 on:** February 02, 2017, 12:51 »

Quote from: dragonblade on February 02, 2017, 09:32

I only just started submitting to Fotolia myself. After about a day or so following my initial uploads, I made my first sale there. Since then, sales have been very slow but to be fair, I only have an extremely small portfolio on that site. Ive now accumulated 38 photos in my Fotolia port and made a total of 4 sales. I also submit my work to Shutterstock, iStockphoto and Dreamstime and I currently have over 100 photos on each of those sites (so still a very small amount of images.) Also just started submitting videos to SS.

u sell like me ..i have 2500 files in fotolia and i sold 4 files in last 3 days....in ss i sold more than 240....fotolia selle mostly pure micro stock a lot of conceptual and illustration. see the photos of the day. very few landscape and travel.

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Author Topic: Fotolia no sales (Read 17405 times)

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qunamax

rod-09

60D

YadaYadaYada

rod-09

AlessandraRC

Anne

fritz

rod-09

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gyllens

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