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ArtmannWitte

« on: October 02, 2007, 09:41 »
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In September i earned more with www.shotshop.com than with one of the microstock-agencies (even IS and SS). I started submitting there at the end of 2006 and my earnings raised every month. At the same time i started seriously with microstock.

My portfolio at shotshop is still small (about 200 images) because of their high the rejection rate.

- Image size at least 8 MP

- 15 Euro per download

- only in german

- uploading is time consuming (you have to fill out a questionnaire for each image or serie)

- they don't accept similar images

Does anyone else have experiences with them?

Regards

ArtmannWitte


manwolste

« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2007, 00:04 »
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I started uploading to microstock sites end of 2006 (dreamstime)/March 2007 (shutterstock,istock etc -> see links down below). So far, I have just a small portfolio (200+ images). As a beginner, Im quite happy with the results, ($400 September revenue, which was BME).

Actually, whether or not it is worth uploading to German sites is a BIG question for me, so Im also very interested in feedback from others(hello, any more Germans out there?).

Over the last couple of month I hesitantly started to upload some images (20-40) to 3 German sites (digitalstock.de, shotshop.com, panthermedia.net) as a test. So far, I have a couple of dl, so at least they are doing some business.

Why am I hesitant?
1) small market (just the German speaking countries)
2) obviously slightly different requirements compared to the leading international sites
3) additional work/pain regarding keywording, you have to support two languages (I never imagined how bothering it could be to find the right keywords in my own language after getting used to the "usual" English terms, its kind of strange)
4) due to the small market (-> 1), will they survive in this competitive business?
5) OK, IF you sell an image its nearly like an EL at  the international sites - but if I look at the view counts, they are pretty low. So I wonder if my dl are just luck - or can you generate consistent revenue?

-> ArtmannWitte, how many images do you have at IS/SS (there is no link to your portfolios)?

-> to all (Germans)
So is it worth the extra time and effort - your experience/results? Any other German sites that you can recommend regarding revenue?

Suggestions are very much appreciated.

Regards, Manfred

German sites:
http://www.panthermedia.net
http://www.digitalstock.de
http://www.shotshop.com


« Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 01:13 by manwolste »

« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2007, 00:52 »
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I've uploaded a few on digitalstock.de, and so far only 1 DL - also curious about feedback from other Germans out there.

« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2007, 03:26 »
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Hi guys,

I just submit to Panthermedia, I think that is the German agency which is most successful, if not tell me otherwise. I get a few sales every month in the average. But very unpredictable. Sometimes just one or two sales, sometimes 5-7 sales. But the price is higher. This month it is not the first time it beat Fotolia in earnings, where I have much more images. However only my best images get downloads. Stockxpert, Dreamstime, Shutterstock and iStock are doing better than panthermedia. I hope they will offer their website in English soon, that would be great.

ArtmannWitte

« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2007, 15:42 »
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Hi, Manfred

I have about 260 images on IS and SS. Here is the link to my portfolio on IS - http://www.istockphoto.com/user_view.php?id=866248. My portfolio on SS is nearly the same.

I had the same doubts about submitting to german agencies. But at least shotshop is doing well. I also started uploading to panthermedia, zoonar and bildmaschine. After one month with panthermedia i have three downloads there. The others still nothing.


King regards

ArtmannWitte


manwolste

« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2007, 16:39 »
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Hi there,

thank you for your feedback and information!

In the future I will add my revenue at the German sites in the monthly "earnings breakdown" thread. Maybe you (and other Germans, or is it just the 4 of us here?) can join me in doing that, so we will have at least some numbers to compare it to the international sites.

Regards,

Manfred



« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2007, 17:03 »
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Manfred,

I have noticed a lot of sales in Fotolia coming from German-speaking countries.  It's certainly a smaller audience when compared to English-speaking countries, but then you Germans are very wealthy people.  ;)

If I had the time to submit to German sites, I would.  It's a pity that they don't look for getting images from non-German-speaking contributors, they could otherwise enrich their portfolios. 

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2007, 20:29 »
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I have a lot of images on Shotshop as I was contacted by the owner and asked to send pictures on CD. They did all the keywording in German for me. Had some good sales figures at the beginning but it's slowed dramatically now. Haven't sent them anything for a while but if you are interested, it might be worth emailing them as they do speak English.

« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2007, 01:14 »
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I am on Panthermedia only with a small portfolio.  It's really amazing how much time it takes to translate everything into ones native tongue  ;)
I sell about a pic every two to three months but at Euro 14.95 or so this easily beats bigstock (no sales in like forever) and Luckyoliver (no sales ever).  As the dollar keeps depreciating against the Euro (and pretty much any other currency) it might be worth to spend more time on German sites - on of these days ...

Tina

« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2007, 02:34 »
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There's also Sodapix (http://www.sodapix.com/) based in Switzerland, with the site in German and English.

I haven't sold anything with them yet, but they carry some interesting and unusual stuff.

« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2007, 00:44 »
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How about when we refer people to a site we don't put in our referral link ...

I think it is a bit rude actually.

« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2008, 18:40 »
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How about when we refer people to a site we don't put in our referral link ...

I think it is a bit rude actually.

As far as I can tell Shotshop doesn't have a referral program.
The site seems quite promising, I uploaded two pictures this month, and yesterday, after being just 1 week online, one of them was sold and 15 EUR will be transferred to my account at the end of March.

The same picture was rejected by digitalstock.de. I have a slightly bigger port on Panthermedia, but no sales there yet (joined them also this month).

One thing about shotshop: they have only a German version, and categorization is done in several steps, so those contributors who know German have an advantage.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2008, 18:42 by Tom »


 

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