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Title: How to get more EL download?
Post by: humannet on October 13, 2012, 03:18
I want EL!!!! :'(
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: fotografer on October 13, 2012, 03:42
There is absolutely nothing that you can do except maybe produce images that would be good for book covers or calendars and even then there is no  guarantee that anybody will want them.   My els are all on totally random images.  I have never seen a pattern to the sort of images used.
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: ShadySue on October 13, 2012, 03:50
There is absolutely nothing that you can do except maybe produce images that would be good for book covers or calendars and even then there is no  guarantee that anybody will want them.   My els are all on totally random images.  I have never seen a pattern to the sort of images used.
+1
Except that in general (but not always) they tend to be more the 'camera club competition' sort of photo, and usually (but not always) tend to be lower sellers, probably because someone buying an EL probably wants to minimise the chances of the same photo appearing on a rival product.
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: jm on October 13, 2012, 04:03
…I just sold EL of image (vector) from my MS early days that I deleted from almost all sites because I thought it's too simple and unsalable.
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: humannet on October 13, 2012, 04:14
…I just sold EL of image (vector) from my MS early days that I deleted from almost all sites because I thought it's too simple and unsalable.
Why you want delete a online photo?
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: Microbius on October 13, 2012, 04:54
There is absolutely nothing that you can do except maybe produce images that would be good for book covers or calendars and even then there is no  guarantee that anybody will want them.   My els are all on totally random images.  I have never seen a pattern to the sort of images used.
Book covers don't usually require an EL
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: Fred on October 13, 2012, 04:55
…I just sold EL of image (vector) from my MS early days that I deleted from almost all sites because I thought it's too simple and unsalable.

I could never understand the logic of voluntarily deleting an accepted image from a site.  There is no cost to keeping it online and always some chance it will sell.  Some think unsaleable images may detract from their portfolio and somehow affect sales but I just don't see this as being much of a factor.

fred
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: jm on October 13, 2012, 05:26
…I just sold EL of image (vector) from my MS early days that I deleted from almost all sites because I thought it's too simple and unsalable.

I could never understand the logic of voluntarily deleting an accepted image from a site.  There is no cost to keeping it online and always some chance it will sell.  Some think unsaleable images may detract from their portfolio and somehow affect sales but I just don't see this as being much of a factor.

fred

Yes - they say that "downloads per image" is one of the factors that has influence on placement in search on some sites. I'm not sure if it's really true but my experience with some sites (FT, DT) is that if image is not downloaded in let's say first six months it will never be downloaded anyway, so there is no reason why to keep them online. Especially if I found them bad as well. And another reason is that some clients that I work for want to see my portfolio for unknown reasons and I don't want to show them garbage.
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: fotografer on October 13, 2012, 05:49
There is absolutely nothing that you can do except maybe produce images that would be good for book covers or calendars and even then there is no  guarantee that anybody will want them.   My els are all on totally random images.  I have never seen a pattern to the sort of images used.
Book covers don't usually require an EL
Yes you are quite right.  It is very unlikely.  I guess that if a book suddenly got very popular they would change the cover to a custom image.
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: stockmarketer on October 13, 2012, 06:26
Make sure when you are uploading you check the box that says "Sell a lot of ELs of this Image."

Many people miss this box, probably because it's in white text on a white background.

Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: noodle on October 13, 2012, 07:11
Make sure when you are uploading you check the box that says "Sell a lot of ELs of this Image."

Many people miss this box, probably because it's in white text on a white background.

I never saw that box either!!
I think I have to calibrate my monitor again...
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: hoangtran on October 14, 2012, 06:19
Make sure when you are uploading you check the box that says "Sell a lot of ELs of this Image."

Many people miss this box, probably because it's in white text on a white background.
+1  ;D
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: fritz on October 14, 2012, 08:53
........ and I want
WESTLAKE AUDIO
SM-1 and
AUDIO NOTE
Kegon Integrated

 (http://www.higherfi.com/pixBig/audionote_kegon_int.jpg)(http://www.westlakeaudio.com/Speakers/Hi_Fi_Series/TOWERSM1.jpg)

RETAIL PRICE: $400,000
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: tab62 on October 14, 2012, 10:50
Build a field of EL Dreams and they (Buyers) will come  :-X


Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: click_click on October 15, 2012, 09:01
........ and I want
WESTLAKE AUDIO
SM-1 and
AUDIO NOTE
Kegon Integrated

 ([url]http://www.higherfi.com/pixBig/audionote_kegon_int.jpg[/url])([url]http://www.westlakeaudio.com/Speakers/Hi_Fi_Series/TOWERSM1.jpg[/url])

RETAIL PRICE: $400,000

If it would also make sandwiches it would be useful, but $400.000 just to play music is a pure sign of not knowing how else you could spend your money...
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: stockastic on October 15, 2012, 10:28
Heck, I would just like to have those beautiful vacuum tubes to display on a shelf.   I wonder what new tubes cost today? 
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: fritz on October 15, 2012, 10:31
........ and I want
WESTLAKE AUDIO
SM-1 and
AUDIO NOTE
Kegon Integrated

 ([url]http://www.higherfi.com/pixBig/audionote_kegon_int.jpg[/url])([url]http://www.westlakeaudio.com/Speakers/Hi_Fi_Series/TOWERSM1.jpg[/url])

RETAIL PRICE: $400,000

If it would also make sandwiches it would be useful, but $400.000 just to play music is a pure sign of not knowing how else you could spend your money...

No it can't make sandwiches but it makes nirvana sound. Anyway, if someone spend 500.000 on wedding party  is it a sign of knowing how to spend money? Or house. What's the difference?
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: fritz on October 15, 2012, 10:34
Heck, I would just like to have those beautiful vacuum tubes to display on a shelf.   I wonder what new tubes cost today?
Depends, from 50$ to 5000$ even more
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: stockastic on October 15, 2012, 10:43
I don't think anyone really believes that gear is worth $400K, but visually, it's a piece of art.   I think to really appreciate it you need to be old enough (like I am)  to remember vacuum tube audio gear before solid state was even available.  The soft glow, oranges and purples of tubes in a dark room.   The whiff of hot ozone from the power supplies.
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: fritz on October 15, 2012, 12:40
I don't think anyone really believes that gear is worth $400K, but visually, it's a piece of art.   I think to really appreciate it you need to be old enough (like I am)  to remember vacuum tube audio gear before solid state was even available.  The soft glow, oranges and purples of tubes in a dark room.   The whiff of hot ozone from the power supplies.
Yes, old enough to use  vacuum tube audio gear(still the best) I have LUXMAN SQ-38U Vacuum Tube Integrated Amplifier and Luxman PD-171 Analog Turntable with B&W and  they play Miles Davis like heaven. I agree they don't worth $400K but they are mind blowing Hi-Fi combination. One of the best.
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: stockastic on October 15, 2012, 17:11
alexmk, you're hurting me, because I'm a h-u-g-e fan of Davis and of jazz in general.  If anyone tries to make you feel dumb for buying that pricey gear, just laugh, because for you it's delivering exactly what it's supposed to deliver - an experience.

Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: fritz on October 15, 2012, 18:31
alexmk, you're hurting me, because I'm a h-u-g-e fan of Davis and of jazz in general.  If anyone tries to make you feel dumb for buying that pricey gear, just laugh, because for you it's delivering exactly what it's supposed to deliver - an experience.
Thanks stockastic. Well the point is if you listen pop or country music than computer speakers are just fine but when it comes to jazz it has to be 1st class gear.Jazz music is so demanding and complex.
Anyway, in couple of days I'm gonna watch Anthony Braxton and MILES SMILES featuring Wallace Roney, Larry Coryell,
Rick Margitza, Joey DeFrancesco, Darryl Jones and Omar Hakim.
Just to remember Miles when I was on his concert in 1986 (last one for me)
Best,
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: RacePhoto on October 16, 2012, 10:13
Heck, I would just like to have those beautiful vacuum tubes to display on a shelf.   I wonder what new tubes cost today?

6GL6 (the probable Amp. tubes) run about $12 each, the pre-amp tubes 12AX7 (guessing again) about $10 each. Tubes last a good long time, but they do eventually burn out. What the Amp. needs is a small shelf over the top for making grilled cheese sandwiches. It's going to make enough heat!  :D

That $400,000 Amp. looks like a big old Scott from the 60s.

Hey I didn't know my old Amps. in the storage area are now classics! And *RARE* on eBay. (everything on eBay and Craigslist is rare) Better cash in before people wake up.
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: tab62 on October 16, 2012, 10:16
funny how we start out a string and where it ends up  ;)  usually the ending is more interesting than the initial string/question and has more information...
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: Perry on October 16, 2012, 13:36
* Shoot better images.
* Submit bigger file sizes.
Title: Re: How to get more EL download?
Post by: humannet on October 16, 2012, 18:03
* Shoot better images.
* Submit bigger file sizes.
Thanks!