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Brasilnut

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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2017, 08:09 »
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Is it best to only upload those images to Alamy or also on microstock? I don't find it OK to get 25 cents for such images. However, I uploaded one such image one year ago as RM to Alamy and it has not been bought. I don't want to get just 25 cents for such an image but no sale is also not great. I really don't know what to do.

Depending on the image it's OK to upload to both as RF. If it's a premium image better to only upload to Alamy. If it's a run of the mill generic image only to SS. Without more information it's impossible to advise.


« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2017, 11:34 »
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Is it best to only upload those images to Alamy or also on microstock?

I uploaded an excellent travel image a year ago to both SS and Alamy. It's sold 62 times for a total of 61 on SS and hasn't sold once on Alamy. In fact, hardly anything of mine is selling on Alamy at the moment and probably more than 95% of my files there have never sold. I get maybe 10 sales a month on Alamy from 6,000 files which averages about one sale in 50 years per file.
A good pic is less likely to get buried on SS than it is on Alamy and if it starts selling on SS it is likely to keep selling, at least for a while.
That's why SS is ranked so much higher than Alamy in the poll results.

ShadySue

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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2017, 11:57 »
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Is it best to only upload those images to Alamy or also on microstock? I don't find it OK to get 25 cents for such images. However, I uploaded one such image one year ago as RM to Alamy and it has not been bought. I don't want to get just 25 cents for such an image but no sale is also not great. I really don't know what to do.
I don't think anyone can advise, as the same dilemma faces us all. Bear in mind that deep discounts on Alamy can mean RM files can go for low prices. I had one RM sale this month which netted me $1.60 which has the benefit of being a value of over 6 x 25c sales, but that's about all (bulk discount and distributor). Do I know that the file would ever have sold on a micro? Of course not.

I presume you've checked for similars on the agencies you're considering to know for sure that they are 'unique and rare'. Still, 'unique and rare' may (or may not) mean that few buyers would be interested - I have a few unique files and some rare files on Alamy which don't tend to sell.
Just because a file is unique or rare doesn't mean that they would sell for more, you can't protect 'unique and rare' files from deep buyer discounts on Alamy, just like you can't protect them from subs sales on SS or premium access on iS.

You could set your files as RF on Alamy and also have them elsewhere. Files designated as RF on Alamy can be sold as non-exclusive RM, for less money (check out an RF file's page to see what I mean). RF would normally net you more than non-exclusive RM, for obvious reasons, so if a file is designated RF, but a buyer only wants one non-exclusive use, they can do so, but pay less.

If not too similar, you could split them, putting some on Alamy and some elsewhere. But then you might always wonder what would have happened if you'd chosen the opposite split.

Bottom line: we can never know, so upload to whatever agency/ies annoy/offend you least, and be happy.

« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2017, 13:16 »
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Can an image that has been bought once on Alamy as RM ever be sold as RF later on? Let's say a photo gets bought only once as RM on Alamy and I want to upload it as RF on microstock two years later. Is that possible?

ShadySue

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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2017, 13:21 »
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Can an image that has been bought once on Alamy as RM ever be sold as RF later on? Let's say a photo gets bought only once as RM on Alamy and I want to upload it as RF on microstock two years later. Is that possible?
Yes, so long as the buyer doesn't have any sort of exclusivity.
Exclusivity would net you a lot more money, and you'd know about it in the licence as notified to you (and they normally contact you in case you have licensed the file elsewhere). Exclusive sales are rare on Alamy. All most RM buyers are buying is one particular licence.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2017, 13:45 by ShadySue »

Brasilnut

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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2017, 14:09 »
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I submit all my best images to Robert Harding, a specialist niche travel photography agency, but they reject like 80% of my images...
SS are a sure bet but it's tough getting over the 25cents, which is insulting, but as others have pointed out it's better than getting lost in Alamy for years hoping for a big sale.

« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2017, 04:09 »
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I submit all my best images to Robert Harding,

Do you get many sales? I keep seeing their name pop up with travel images similar to mine.

Brasilnut

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« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2017, 05:04 »
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Do you get many sales? I keep seeing their name pop up with travel images similar to mine.

None so far, although i've only been submitting regularly to them for about 4 months. I'm working towards getting 1,000 images on there, which will take about a year, and then i'll reassess.

Another interesting travel agency is 4corners. I've attached a list I put together a few months ago that I trust you'll find interesting. I've got a comprehensive guide on microstock coming out soon...
« Last Edit: May 28, 2017, 05:07 by Brasilnut »

« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2017, 05:19 »
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None so far, although i've only been submitting regularly to them for about 4 months. I'm working towards getting 1,000 images on there, which will take about a year, and then i'll reassess.

Another interesting travel agency is 4corners. I've attached a list I put together a few months ago that I trust you'll find interesting. I've got a comprehensive guide on microstock coming out soon...
Thanks. I've got reservations about sending exclusive images (and no similars elsewhere) to an agency unless it is selling like hot-cakes.  I see their stuff on Alamy, I don't know where else they supply.  If it's just a back door to Alamy then you're just giving a cut of your commissions to a third party.

Brasilnut

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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2017, 14:36 »
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Thanks. I've got reservations about sending exclusive images (and no similars elsewhere) to an agency unless it is selling like hot-cakes.  I see their stuff on Alamy, I don't know where else they supply.  If it's just a back door to Alamy then you're just giving a cut of your commissions to a third party.

The industry's *removed coarse language* due to downward pressures on prices as a result of an oversupply of images, and disruption from Microstock. Midstock agencies are also struggling to keep their prices attractive.

There's no "perfect" agencies, just have to make friends with the devil sometimes and hope for the best. I haven't seen them put my stuff with Alamy but have seen at Getty which can be worrying. As long as these third parties report property, I don't mind... 

dpimborough

« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2017, 01:47 »
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Hello, I am back from Morocco. The tour group was rather large with 47 people. Had a hard time taking photos. I do have some unique and rare images of people. Very few though. Should these go to Alamy only? Does Alamy now accept royalty free editorial? I don't know if it is better to upload unique images as RM on Alamy only or as RF editorial on Alamy only or as RF editorial everywhere. Can someone explain that please. Unfortunately we had often overcast weather and half of the group caught a stomach bug including me even though I never ate any raw food.

Alamy now take Royalty Free Editorial you upload as normal and select royalty free on the mandatory tab and then tick the "Sell for editorial only" box that leaves you free to upload to other microstock site as royalty free


 

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