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« on: February 23, 2013, 18:30 »
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Instead of dragging my 5DM2 around with me all the time I thought I would snag a quality point-and-shoot for getting those interesting walk-around shots. After  much research, I got the new Canon G15 and have been testing it and feel that this just might not work. (Still in Que. at IS). When you enlarge these files in PS... well, it is what it is and it just isn't pretty after living in the L-Glass, full frame sensor world.

I've had images accepted with my iPhone4 but many get rejected for image quality.

Do any of you find much success (quality images and acceptance) with "upper end" point-and-shoots? Is it worth going down this  road or should I just keep the 5D in the front seat and not mess with these wanna-be, consumer toys?

Thanks
« Last Edit: February 23, 2013, 19:06 by oxman »


« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2013, 18:45 »
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I have been looking for a similar system but no luck yet.  I have been judging point and shoots by going to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/samples and viewing full size images from various point and shoots.  Everything I have looked at, including the Fuji Finepix 100, has too much noise and has a sharpness issue, at least in the samples posted on DP Review. 

« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2013, 19:01 »
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I have been looking for a similar system but no luck yet.  I have been judging point and shoots by going to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/samples and viewing full size images from various point and shoots.  Everything I have looked at, including the Fuji Finepix 100, has too much noise and has a sharpness issue, at least in the samples posted on DP Review.


Thanks Mantis. :)
I have spent alot of time there as well and feel the same. The Canon G1x has a larger sensor but then... no interchangeable lens. And at its price, you might as well get a Rebel. And then you have about the same bulk as a 5D.

« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 19:15 »
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Take a look at Pentax K-01.  APS-C sensor, interchangeable lenses, mirrorless.  Fits in a coat pocket (not a shirt though) with the 40mm lens.  I got mine for $319 body only.  Same sensor as in Nikon D7000.

« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2013, 19:26 »
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Take a look at Pentax K-01.  APS-C sensor, interchangeable lenses, mirrorless.  Fits in a coat pocket (not a shirt though) with the 40mm lens.  I got mine for $319 body only.  Same sensor as in Nikon D7000.

Just checked out the images at dp review. VERY nice. Do you use that alot for microstock and have good approval results? Is this the ticket? What lens? The 50mm looks hot.

Thanks

fritz

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2013, 19:47 »
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For stills don't use p&s but for footage my Hero 3 is sooooooo good. It's incredibly small versatile with very good video quality even for MS. Stills are not good enough for IS but for DT,FT, 123 ......... are just fine. Take a look!
GoPro HERO3: Black Edition - Smaller, Lighter and 2X More Powerful

« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2013, 20:16 »
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Take a look at Pentax K-01.  APS-C sensor, interchangeable lenses, mirrorless.  Fits in a coat pocket (not a shirt though) with the 40mm lens.  I got mine for $319 body only.  Same sensor as in Nikon D7000.

Just checked out the images at dp review. VERY nice. Do you use that alot for microstock and have good approval results? Is this the ticket? What lens? The 50mm looks hot.

Thanks
I use the k-5 as my main camera (same sensor).  Just got the k-01 this month so not a lot of track record but what I have sent up has been accepted.  Really it is the same camera as k-5 just packaged into a mirrorless body.  Lenses, lenses....  I have far too many.  Pentax has a good assortment, possibly the best primes in the business, maybe not as many zooms as some makers.  I use mostly a 50mm f/1.7 the DA 40mm, the DA 70mm and the 100mm macro.

I bought the k-01 strictly as a backup, fits in the same space as a lens in my bag.  But I've found it is so much fun to use I am using it almost as much as the k-5.  Would not recommend it for sports, AF is too slow IMHO but for anything else it is killer.  And at that price?

tab62

« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2013, 20:45 »
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I have fairly well with my Olympus PEN E-PL1 4/3 camera. Even made GL Stock Collection on some tennis shots with this camera! Great little camera and a lot lighter than my 1D with the 24-70 lens  ;D


« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2013, 01:07 »
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I have a Sony NEX 5N and have no problems getting high quality images out of it. Actually at higher ISO it produces less noise than my 5D Mk2.

Yes, the kit lens of the NEX isn't quite great. But that's true for a DSLR kit lens in most cases as well.

I use the Sony as "always there" camera but also when I walk around cities as the secondary. I usually decide to either take a wide angle or a tele zoom on my Canon and cover the other range with the Sony. When I have both cameras, I certainly shoot >80% with the Canon but the Sony fits well in my coat, no extra bag needed.

« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2013, 02:53 »
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2013, 03:21 »
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I have a Sony NEX 5N and have no problems getting high quality images out of it. Actually at higher ISO it produces less noise than my 5D Mk2.

Yes, the kit lens of the NEX isn't quite great. But that's true for a DSLR kit lens in most cases as well.

I use the Sony as "always there" camera but also when I walk around cities as the secondary. I usually decide to either take a wide angle or a tele zoom on my Canon and cover the other range with the Sony. When I have both cameras, I certainly shoot >80% with the Canon but the Sony fits well in my coat, no extra bag needed.

Bad copy of 5D or lens.
Period
Over & out


« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2013, 03:53 »
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MichaelJay,

I have surfed through Your Independent page.
Holly sh.. when do You find all that time for statistics, reports....

Respect  :)

« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2013, 07:52 »
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I never had an image rejected with my Leica X2 due to quality. Shoots RAW and has great contrast right out of the camera. Great little walk around camera.  No bells and whistles, 24mm lens (no zoom).

« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2013, 08:22 »
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My Sony RX100 is small, sharp at the wide end and I've had no problems getting photos accepted.  The larger sensor does make a big difference to image quality.

« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 09:20 »
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I never had an image rejected with my Leica X2 due to quality. Shoots RAW and has great contrast right out of the camera. Great little walk around camera.  No bells and whistles, 24mm lens (no zoom).

if you had I would be surprised, a 2k $ camera ;D

« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2013, 13:54 »
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I never had an image rejected with my Leica X2 due to quality. Shoots RAW and has great contrast right out of the camera. Great little walk around camera.  No bells and whistles, 24mm lens (no zoom).

if you had I would be surprised, a 2k $ camera ;D

Exactly.  Where do you draw the line on a "carry-around" camera? I suppose if you want quality that's equal to your DSLR you have to dole out some serious cash. I couldn't find any samples on DPreview.

« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2013, 14:22 »
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Well, I pulled out my OLD Canon Rebel 300D DSLR i bought in 2003, dusted it off and fired it up. Did some test shots and loved it. I can use all my lenses and memory cards and has viewfinder with data. Sure it is old but it works fine, images are sharp (with good glass) and it's paid for LOL

Sure it is not as small as most point-and-shoots but it take better images, is rather compact and rugged and the perfect backup, walk around shooter for me.

OX
...problem solved.

« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2013, 16:40 »
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I never had an image rejected with my Leica X2 due to quality. Shoots RAW and has great contrast right out of the camera. Great little walk around camera.  No bells and whistles, 24mm lens (no zoom).

if you had I would be surprised, a 2k $ camera ;D

Exactly.  Where do you draw the line on a "carry-around" camera? I suppose if you want quality that's equal to your DSLR you have to dole out some serious cash. I couldn't find any samples on DPreview.

Wow.  Bite my head off for a camera I like to use.  OP asked about an "upper end" point and shoot and I told what I was happy with.

« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2013, 17:16 »
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I never had an image rejected with my Leica X2 due to quality. Shoots RAW and has great contrast right out of the camera. Great little walk around camera.  No bells and whistles, 24mm lens (no zoom).

if you had I would be surprised, a 2k $ camera ;D

Exactly.  Where do you draw the line on a "carry-around" camera? I suppose if you want quality that's equal to your DSLR you have to dole out some serious cash. I couldn't find any samples on DPreview.

Wow.  Bite my head off for a camera I like to use.  OP asked about an "upper end" point and shoot and I told what I was happy with.

Not biting your head off at all.  I was referencing Luis who made a statement about cost.  People have been posting point and shoots for about $300 to $1000.  Then you posted a $2k camera option and that was a big jump in cost....to the point where I don't think it's a feasible option unless you have the cash to spend, of course.  And you apparently do, so congrats.

« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2013, 17:21 »
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I never had an image rejected with my Leica X2 due to quality. Shoots RAW and has great contrast right out of the camera. Great little walk around camera.  No bells and whistles, 24mm lens (no zoom).

if you had I would be surprised, a 2k $ camera ;D

Exactly.  Where do you draw the line on a "carry-around" camera? I suppose if you want quality that's equal to your DSLR you have to dole out some serious cash. I couldn't find any samples on DPreview.

Wow.  Bite my head off for a camera I like to use.  OP asked about an "upper end" point and shoot and I told what I was happy with.

Not biting your head off at all.  I was referencing Luis who made a statement about cost.  People have been posting point and shoots for about $300 to $1000.  Then you posted a $2k camera option and that was a big jump in cost....to the point where I don't think it's a feasible option unless you have the cash to spend, of course.  And you apparently do, so congrats.

exactly, no attack :)

« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2013, 18:13 »
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Whats the general opinion of the Olympus E-P1. they are getting inexpensive now

tab62

« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2013, 18:39 »
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The Pen E-PL1 set me back about $230 which included a nice bag, spare battery & charger, 16GB card and a 14-42 kit lens. I couldn't believe all this for a little over $200 bucks.

Tom

« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2013, 18:48 »
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The Pen E-PL1 set me back about $230 which included a nice bag, spare battery & charger, 16GB card and a 14-42 kit lens. I couldn't believe all this for a little over $200 bucks.

Tom

do you find the quality of files acceptable for stock?

tab62

« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2013, 19:09 »
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Yes, it is one of the best kit lenses that I have ever used.  Here is one pic from it -


http://graphicleftovers.com/graphic/1677371-tennis-practice


Tom

« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2013, 22:59 »
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Thanks Tom, Looking on Ebay right now, did you get any other lenses?

« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2013, 01:44 »
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I do more illustrations but for photos I use a the first generation E-P1.
If you set the zoom lenses to their sweet spots you might get lucky.
 
I've invested in a couple of Lumix/Leica prime lenses and
I'm on the lookout for a higher quality M43 back for the right price.

Here's one kit lens shot I got lucky with:

http://graphicleftovers.com/graphic/tennis-ball-out-on-clay/

« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2013, 15:57 »
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As a follow up -- all images shot with my new Canon G15 were (standard) rejected by IS. They were shot in filtered natural light at 80 ISO with minimal post processing. They were just not sharp due to the lens quality and small sensor. Back to Best Buy it goes.

Good luck all you point-and-shoot hopefuls.

OX
...gemme DSLR and big sensors

« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2013, 17:14 »
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As a follow up -- all images shot with my new Canon G15 were (standard) rejected by IS. They were shot in filtered natural light at 80 ISO with minimal post processing. They were just not sharp due to the lens quality and small sensor. Back to Best Buy it goes.

Good luck all you point-and-shoot hopefuls.

OX
...gemme DSLR and big sensors

 ;)
Yeah, man

« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2013, 17:22 »
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As a follow up -- all images shot with my new Canon G15 were (standard) rejected by IS. They were shot in filtered natural light at 80 ISO with minimal post processing. They were just not sharp due to the lens quality and small sensor. Back to Best Buy it goes.

Good luck all you point-and-shoot hopefuls.

OX
...gemme DSLR and big sensors
I've had no problems with cameras much worse that that.  I usually downsize a bit and use some selective noise reduction but nothing that takes too much time.  I like small cameras.

« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2013, 18:09 »
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As a follow up -- all images shot with my new Canon G15 were (standard) rejected by IS. They were shot in filtered natural light at 80 ISO with minimal post processing. They were just not sharp due to the lens quality and small sensor. Back to Best Buy it goes.

Good luck all you point-and-shoot hopefuls.

OX
...gemme DSLR and big sensors

I wonder if tbe quality is actually the reason.  I would like to see a photo with an older 6.2mp cannon or nikon compared with the quality of the g15 and the other 4/3 cameras. Or are the inspectors just looking at the metadata and rejecting

« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2013, 18:41 »
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As a follow up -- all images shot with my new Canon G15 were (standard) rejected by IS. They were shot in filtered natural light at 80 ISO with minimal post processing. They were just not sharp due to the lens quality and small sensor. Back to Best Buy it goes.

Good luck all you point-and-shoot hopefuls.

OX
...gemme DSLR and big sensors


I wonder if tbe quality is actually the reason.  I would like to see a photo with an older 6.2mp cannon or nikon compared with the quality of the g15 and the other 4/3 cameras. Or are the inspectors just looking at the metadata and rejecting


Here ya go.  Click on the image then "original" image at the bottom.

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/albums/nikon-d100-review-samples

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/albums/canon-powershot-g15-review-samples

« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2013, 20:46 »
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As a follow up -- all images shot with my new Canon G15 were (standard) rejected by IS. They were shot in filtered natural light at 80 ISO with minimal post processing. They were just not sharp due to the lens quality and small sensor. Back to Best Buy it goes.

Good luck all you point-and-shoot hopefuls.

OX
...gemme DSLR and big sensors

I wonder if tbe quality is actually the reason.  I would like to see a photo with an older 6.2mp cannon or nikon compared with the quality of the g15 and the other 4/3 cameras. Or are the inspectors just looking at the metadata and rejecting

Well actually the photos were portraits of Sean Locke come to think of it...

OX
...mebbe that was why, ya think  :o

« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2013, 11:37 »
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I have used in that order when hiking
E420 + kit lens
EP2 + kit lens,
EP2 +12mm+20mm+45mm
EM5 ( either with 14-45 +25mm when multi days hiking, or i add 12mm+45mm+75mm if day hikes )

At full size i have seen an improvement from E420 to EP2 to EM5 and from kit zoom to some primes,
But even the E420 quality is accepted from Shutter / IStock / Dreamstime etc... most of the time.
With the EM5 when its not accepted its never from the camera limits

i tried a few shots with LX3 and had some accepted on the 3 above, but it way harder.


 

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