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« Reply #75 on: October 19, 2016, 12:16 »
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With top 200 you would not need too much verification or review process as they (me included, sorry for my anonymity) do have expertise what images are needed, are quality aware etc. Lets say every photographer/illustrator from top 200 has on avarage 5000 images (at least). 200 x 5000 of the best content is an awesome start.


I really like this idea and did think about that. But I dont think with 200 microstock contributoers, I will get enough high quality photos, verification process costs way alot of money too.

 
My suggestion is contact 200 best microstock photographers, illustrators and build a separate database. I mean separate from any API as they are unstable, and you are a serious businessman aren't you?

An established photographer/illustrator would happily get $1 per image uploaded and 50%/50% royalty split thereafter.

What about that ?


« Reply #76 on: October 19, 2016, 12:18 »
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Hello big Investor

This is the Anonymous:  http://www.facebook.com/hungstartup

Are you real, too?

Anonymous person on the internet, looking for big investors.


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The link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed."

« Reply #77 on: October 19, 2016, 12:48 »
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I don't deny that we are very much inspired by Canva. But there is one important thing: we have a difference business model. We are trying to create more beautiful templates and try to become a marketplace for designers & marketers.

Canva's already in the marketplace for designers, marketers, and more.

Canva already offers beautiful templates:  https://www.canva.com/templates/invitations/halloween-party/

It also appears you're inspired by Google:





« Reply #78 on: October 19, 2016, 13:19 »
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too close for comfort I reckon

« Reply #79 on: October 19, 2016, 13:33 »
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It is really hard to see difference between Shutterstock, Fotolia, iStock and many other stock companies outthere. And more importantly, you dont need to be the #1 to be successful. As far as I have a few millions of users from a more focused group, I can provide more useful templates for that group.

Eg:  providing  real estate templates serving realtors only can be a good option. They will need alot if online marketing materials as well as printed copies. i have about +200 realestate designs  already, and I am sure Canva is nowhere close to that number.

I may take a vertical approach later. The market is big enough for aa few more sites like Canva & DesignBold

I don't deny that we are very much inspired by Canva. But there is one important thing: we have a difference business model. We are trying to create more beautiful templates and try to become a marketplace for designers & marketers.

Canva's already in the marketplace for designers, marketers, and more.

Canva already offers beautiful templates:  https://www.canva.com/templates/invitations/halloween-party/

It also appears you're inspired by Google:



« Reply #80 on: October 19, 2016, 19:56 »
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I don't deny that we are very much inspired by Canva. But there is one important thing: we have a difference business model. We are trying to create more beautiful templates and try to become a marketplace for designers & marketers.

Canva's already in the marketplace for designers, marketers, and more.

Canva already offers beautiful templates:  https://www.canva.com/templates/invitations/halloween-party/

It also appears you're inspired by Google:



You guys are getting ridiculous. Yes, geometric sans serif and colors, like many, many logos. You should know better.

There is space for several vendors in the marketplace, I'm sure. 
« Last Edit: October 19, 2016, 21:34 by ppdd »

« Reply #81 on: October 20, 2016, 01:25 »
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OK I will take the bait ,,,,how many logos use the same four colours and only those four?

« Reply #82 on: October 20, 2016, 06:10 »
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OK I will take the bait ,,,,how many logos use the same four colours and only those four?

Maybe a million? Go look. Check out a color wheel and the answer is there.

By the way, I think someone used the word "Design" in their logo before, too close for comfort?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2016, 06:33 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #83 on: October 20, 2016, 07:52 »
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Hello big Investor

This is the Anonymous:  http://www.facebook.com/hungstartup

Are you real, too?

Anonymous person on the internet, looking for big investors.



I'm anonymous but real. Also not looking for investors, because I would not do that anonymously. I would do that with my full name, because trustworthiness is one of the most important things for investors. They need to have confidence in you.

Of course, what I'm saying is pretty obvious. But if this is how you handle suggestions and critics, good luck.

You're link doesn't work. You're still anonymous.

« Reply #84 on: October 20, 2016, 08:03 »
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"Ford already makes cars, give up and quit Mr. Toyoda"...

Now, I wouldn't invest a million in this company either but the comments in this thread are getting ridiculous... It must be hard to have an all-pessimistic outlook on life and be so jealous of anyone who tries to create something?

Rose Tinted Glasses

« Reply #85 on: October 20, 2016, 08:37 »
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"Ford already makes cars, give up and quit Mr. Toyoda"...

It must be hard to have an all-pessimistic outlook on life and be so jealous of anyone who tries to create something?

It's a realistic outlook on life mate. You don't come into a forum as a newbie and completely anonymous and ask for a million for a start up that was presented in such an amateur manner and not expect to take a few jabs. Also of note, who in their right mind comes on to any forum asking for a million especially when the average forum user such as those on MSG most likely make less money per year than a Wal Mart greeter. You can call this pessimism, I call it two things realism and good old common sense. I truly wish the OP the best of luck, but I'd also suggest he/she gets their ducks in order and take a different approach to gain venture capital.

« Reply #86 on: October 20, 2016, 08:44 »
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It's a realistic outlook on life mate. You don't come into a forum as a newbie and completely anonymous and ask for a million for a start up that was presented in such an amateur manner and not expect to take a few jabs. Also of note, who in their right mind comes on to any forum asking for a million especially when the average forum user such as those on MSG most likely make less money per year than a Wal Mart greeter. You can call this pessimism, I call it two things realism and good old common sense. I truly wish the OP the best of luck, but I'd also suggest he/she gets their ducks in order and take a different approach to gain venture capital.

First of all, what new user knows of everyone who writes here, and the contents of every thread? It's not completely crazy to think that a few library owners/operators also hang around here based on the name (which they do!) and might be interested. No, the average $43 a month person will not be able to do much, but maybe, just maybe, someone will.

A few jabs, sure, but it's the constant belittling and downright arrogant/rude comments that are a bit over the top. Especially when they try to find any little thing to make fun of, like the logo, without apparently having seen a logo or font before in their life...

Rose Tinted Glasses

« Reply #87 on: October 20, 2016, 08:57 »
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It's a realistic outlook on life mate. You don't come into a forum as a newbie and completely anonymous and ask for a million for a start up that was presented in such an amateur manner and not expect to take a few jabs. Also of note, who in their right mind comes on to any forum asking for a million especially when the average forum user such as those on MSG most likely make less money per year than a Wal Mart greeter. You can call this pessimism, I call it two things realism and good old common sense. I truly wish the OP the best of luck, but I'd also suggest he/she gets their ducks in order and take a different approach to gain venture capital.

First of all, what new user knows of everyone who writes here, and the contents of every thread?

That would fall under market research and understanding your target audience for venture capital. Just sayin.

« Reply #88 on: October 20, 2016, 09:07 »
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That would fall under market research and understanding your target audience for venture capital. Just sayin.

So you're also saying that people from big and small libraries don't come here then?

Most people who have done something great with their lives were met with the "are you crazy" and "just get a job at McD" comments by people who will never do anything great...
« Last Edit: October 20, 2016, 09:10 by increasingdifficulty »

Rose Tinted Glasses

« Reply #89 on: October 20, 2016, 09:22 »
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That would fall under market research and understanding your target audience for venture capital. Just sayin.

So you're also saying that people from big and small libraries don't come here then?


I don't think I have said that once. But I am saying the average user here does not have a million dollars to spare. Still confused?

And if it was me who wanted a million dollars I certainly would have a better presentation on hand and take it directly to the big libraries and make a presentation that clearly explained what your million dollars would be used for etc.

It's all in the packaging and if you want to twist it how you see fit then knock yourself out. It's fairly obvious to me that you either don't get the point and/or you are just being argumentative for the sake of doing so.

CJH

« Reply #90 on: October 20, 2016, 09:35 »
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Agree, it's in the packaging.   Hung, I suggest you focus more on estimating earnings and less on what has already been spent on the business.   Over-spending (by a lot!) on a domain name that you don't use is not a great advertisement for your business skills.   The estimated value of the salary you didn't take doesn't matter much to investors.  Yes, it demonstrates your committment, but top of everyone's mind will be "What will I get for my $1Mill investment?"  Where are the numbers showing that?  And how solid are the forecasted earnings? Personally, I suspect this market is well-saturated, lacking meaningful barriers to entry, and well into milking the cash cow stage of industry develoment.  But that's just based on casual observation and I could be mistaken.   Good luck. 

« Reply #91 on: October 20, 2016, 09:43 »
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I don't think I have said that once. But I am saying the average user here does not have a million dollars to spare. Still confused?
That's why I asked what you were saying. How much must the AVERAGE user have to spare to warrant looking for investors? Why must the average user have so much money when clearly representatives from Fotolia/Adobe/Videoblocks etc. hang around here checking the forum every week?
just being argumentative for the sake of doing so.
Partly true, but the main reason was to point out the belittling and comments like "it's been done" and "the logo has letters and colors, it's too similar".

I'm not defending the pitch, I'm just pointing out the bully attitude against "newbies".


« Reply #92 on: October 20, 2016, 10:48 »
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I don't think I have said that once. But I am saying the average user here does not have a million dollars to spare. Still confused?
That's why I asked what you were saying. How much must the AVERAGE user have to spare to warrant looking for investors? Why must the average user have so much money when clearly representatives from Fotolia/Adobe/Videoblocks etc. hang around here checking the forum every week?
just being argumentative for the sake of doing so.
Partly true, but the main reason was to point out the belittling and comments like "it's been done" and "the logo has letters and colors, it's too similar".

I'm not defending the pitch, I'm just pointing out the bully attitude against "newbies".

The criticism was getting pointless, yes. Also, the facebook link works just fine for me, and did from the moment it was posted - I have no idea why people can't see it.

I think the introduction was a little strange, but this isn't a terrible place to ask for input or even look for a partner. There are people around with startup experience in the industry and some people with fairly deep connections who can offer input.

« Reply #93 on: October 20, 2016, 10:54 »
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Agree, it's in the packaging.   Hung, I suggest you focus more on estimating earnings and less on what has already been spent on the business.   Over-spending (by a lot!) on a domain name that you don't use is not a great advertisement for your business skills.   The estimated value of the salary you didn't take doesn't matter much to investors.  Yes, it demonstrates your committment, but top of everyone's mind will be "What will I get for my $1Mill investment?"  Where are the numbers showing that?  And how solid are the forecasted earnings? Personally, I suspect this market is well-saturated, lacking meaningful barriers to entry, and well into milking the cash cow stage of industry develoment.  But that's just based on casual observation and I could be mistaken.   Good luck.

I don't really know what he was asking for - I think he's saying he's spent $1 million so far and is looking for a co-founder. The co-founder can have experience, connections and expertise that will help the business succeed, which in the end is more valuable than the initial investment. The site is pretty complete and having a co-founder who is good at navigating the VC world would be the most valuable. Canva has $45 million in VC funding, which is a major reason why it's working.

« Reply #94 on: October 20, 2016, 13:22 »
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Hello big Investor

This is the Anonymous:  newbielink:http://www.facebook.com/hungstartup [nonactive]

Are you real, too?

Anonymous person on the internet, looking for big investors.



I'm anonymous but real. Also not looking for investors, because I would not do that anonymously. I would do that with my full name, because trustworthiness is one of the most important things for investors. They need to have confidence in you.

Of course, what I'm saying is pretty obvious. But if this is how you handle suggestions and critics, good luck.

You're link doesn't work. You're still anonymous.


If you had read his post more thoroughly you'd find that he wasn't looking for investors so much as the things he clearly stated.

1. This sentence makes it clear to me he is searching for help solving the stock image dilemma:

"I asked myself why I don't try to seek for opinion, support, advice how I should resolve the situation?"

2. This says to me he's interested in a partner that matches the criteria mentioned in his initial post, for an equity option; no investment needed:

is there anyone here would love to join the team as co-founder with equity option?

You must:
- Have access to a few million stock photos
- Have a wide connection with stock contributors
- Have experience and capability to build and grow the contributor program


3. This suggested to me that he's quite a real person, not an anonymous person with the negative connotations you're insinuating.

This is the Anonymous: newbielink:http://www.facebook.com/hungstartup [nonactive]
« Last Edit: October 20, 2016, 14:02 by silv3r »

« Reply #95 on: October 20, 2016, 13:37 »
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"Ford already makes cars, give up and quit Mr. Toyoda"...

It must be hard to have an all-pessimistic outlook on life and be so jealous of anyone who tries to create something?

It's a realistic outlook on life mate. You don't come into a forum as a newbie and completely anonymous and ask for a million for a start up that was presented in such an amateur manner and not expect to take a few jabs. Also of note, who in their right mind comes on to any forum asking for a million especially when the average forum user such as those on MSG most likely make less money per year than a Wal Mart greeter. You can call this pessimism, I call it two things realism and good old common sense. I truly wish the OP the best of luck, but I'd also suggest he/she gets their ducks in order and take a different approach to gain venture capital.

At what point did he ask for a million dollars? He simply said it's a million dollar startup. If you had read his story more carefully you would have found he explained he's gone through half his initial investment and is now facing a serious challenge to his original business model, acquiring stock images at a reasonable price.

This is what he is looking for. A co-founder who can help to overcome this hurdle.

He's also asking the contributors/photographers on this forum whether or not his position on the licensing is unreasonable to them so that he can brainstorm a way to create something that contributes not only to DesignBold but the contributors/photographers as well.
« Last Edit: October 20, 2016, 13:49 by silv3r »

« Reply #96 on: October 20, 2016, 15:45 »
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At what point did he ask for a million dollars? He simply said it's a million dollar startup. If you had read his story more carefully you would have found he explained he's gone through half his initial investment and is now facing a serious challenge to his original business model, acquiring stock images at a reasonable price.

This is what he is looking for. A co-founder who can help to overcome this hurdle.

He's also asking the contributors/photographers on this forum whether or not his position on the licensing is unreasonable to them so that he can brainstorm a way to create something that contributes not only to DesignBold but the contributors/photographers as well.

Of course they didn't read it. They saw a word or two about money from someone with English as a second language and were too eager to form a lynch mob.  :)

« Reply #97 on: October 20, 2016, 16:41 »
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"Partly true, but the main reason was to point out the belittling and comments like "it's been done" and "the logo has letters and colors, it's too similar".  My intention was not to belittle I said in previous posts I felt the proposal could do with some Legal input. To me If I were to look at that Logo I could easily mistake it for a Google product. I just think there is a significant risk that Google may take the same view and act accordingly. Maybe I'm wrong but I think some professional  legal advice would help. I've certainly seen small retailers ordered to change their shop branding for less similarity.

« Reply #98 on: October 20, 2016, 16:53 »
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You should check out the eBay logo.  :)

Anyway, the font is completely different, and those 4 colors are the most common colors in the known universe. And that combination is the most common combination in the unknown universe. It's not too similar.

On a different note, personally I would think it would look better in all white or a single color on the b.

It also needs some work on the kerning (the sig part especially).
« Last Edit: October 20, 2016, 17:05 by increasingdifficulty »

« Reply #99 on: October 20, 2016, 17:17 »
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Yep OK perhaps I'm wrong ;D. though to my eyes the fonts look quite similar but I'm no expert. It seems google were erm "inspired" by ebay :o   :-X


 

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