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« on: December 06, 2012, 07:47 »
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Hi there

I'm currently a member of Alamy and make the odd sale there. What I was wondering though is can I put my RM stuff anywhere else apart from Alamy?

What other non-exclusive RM libraries are out there?

Thanks for any help.



ShadySue

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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2012, 07:59 »
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Q1: Yes, Alamy is a non-exclusive agency.
Q2: Don't know, but your search is as good as mine.
(Remember, though, that if submitting the same RM files to multiple sites it's your repsonsibility to keep tabs on what has sold and for what purposes, in case a buyer should want specific rights on an image.)

« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2012, 08:21 »
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Thanks Sue. I'm aware of the consequences.

Looked at a few others such as Masterfile but they want exclusivity. The only one that came close was Corbis but I wasn't sure if they would or wouldn't take files as non-exclusive.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2012, 08:35 by jools »

velocicarpo

« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2012, 09:10 »
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There are many small RM Agencies out there. It may take you a while to figure out whats good for you. Some sell more and some less. Sadly there is no easy guide to get installed in this market, meaning, no such thing as the "Big four". Actually I would really welcome if one of the bigger RM or Trad Agencies would open up and modernize its workflows just as Alamy or the Micros....

« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 09:15 »
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That's useful, thanks :)

I was beginning to wonder if it was worth it.

I'm with a few RM distributors such as Robert Harding and Arcaid which have started to bring in some cash. Getty is so far the one that is outshining everyone else at the moment and I've been trying to get as much in there as I can. Currently satt at just over 1000 images both RM and RF with the majority at RM.


ShadySue

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 09:31 »
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That's useful, thanks :)

I was beginning to wonder if it was worth it.

I'm with a few RM distributors such as Robert Harding and Arcaid which have started to bring in some cash. Getty is so far the one that is outshining everyone else at the moment and I've been trying to get as much in there as I can. Currently satt at just over 1000 images both RM and RF with the majority at RM.
Probably best for the moment [1] to sit it out at Getty, since you've got RM there.
The main exception would be if you have very specialist images, in which case I think the way forward is to look at publicatons which use your specialism and see which agencies, if any, they use. You might find that they don't use agencies and sent wants lists out to their selected suppliers directly.

[1] Bit with a weather eye out for the future. The bigger they come, the harder they fall.

« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2012, 02:49 »
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Thanks Sue. I appreciate the advice and will take it on board:)

« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2012, 02:55 »
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I have a question regarding RF sales:

how are your RF sales on Alamy??

« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2012, 03:01 »
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Personally? Non-existant!

I've done miles better on Shutterstock. Nothing approaching any kind of wage but enough to keep me shooting which is what matters! Couldn't stand the thought of having to go to work for someone else.

However, I did start to have sales kick in with Getty earlier this year. Had a very nice sale of an image at around $900 gross! Shame that the % is biased to them but hey, for a very ordinary shot of some horses that's not too shabby :D

Les

« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2012, 04:32 »
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Well, nonexclusive RM is as good an oxymoron as military intelligence.

The reason, why the agency takes as an image as RM, is that they can track and police its use.
By the way, RM used to stand for Royalty Managed.

« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2012, 11:10 »
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I've only heard it as Rights Managed, never Royalty.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2012, 11:13 by ppdd »

RacePhoto

« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2012, 11:52 »
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I've only heard it as Rights Managed, never Royalty.


Amazing what you can learn on the Internet forums.  ::)

http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/image-licences.asp

Alamy: Rights Managed Licences:

« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2012, 12:00 »
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Well, nonexclusive RM is as good an oxymoron as military intelligence.

The reason, why the agency takes as an image as RM, is that they can track and police its use.
By the way, RM used to stand for Royalty Managed.

Sigh.

There is no requirement that an image licensed as RM (Rights Managed) has to be exclusive.

« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2012, 14:43 »
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There are 100's to decide on before choosing the most appropriate ones for you; that's if they'll accept you as a contributor.

http://www.cepic.org/directory/member_agencies

Above will give you an idea of a selection. Some will give great returns, others will be like Crestock. Methinks some research is in order, it's far from easy to choose a good agent and make good sales; although they do exist.

Oldhand

OM

« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2012, 18:49 »
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Came across this one the other day, 'Emporis'. They run an annual modern architecture competition and request stock photography of modern architecture. All the stuff that SS refuses on copyright/structure release grounds, they seem to want (although they do stress 'new buildings' that they haven't yet got in their archive).

All RF and they say commercial use, sale prices start at 95 with 50% to photog. See their FAQ here:

http://www.emporis.com/comm


 

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